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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 24, 2022 19:39:31 GMT
Far Right organizations restricted the abortion. Many women are complaining about that saying that the system now turns into a complete government machine that controls the birth.
Is this true? I only heard about it a little, but didn't get the sense of it. Maybe somebody knows this better?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 15, 2022 19:16:41 GMT
A lot of things have happened from ridiculous things and not everything is as ridiculous as it might seem to one. Yet, a lot of cultures report some kind of flood. Mystefying. Back then no one thought deaf people could ever hear but they can and even the blind might receive sight. A lot is possible. I can even fit at least a dozen baby elephants in my room and they'd have space but I am not into animals luckily so I won't worry about saving them in an apocalyptical situation but the things I do plan to save, you bet I will find a way to or I'd die trying. I even heard of mothers lifting up cars to save their child. Maaan. The supernatural capabilities humans can possess at times is remarkable or the ones that can't feel physical pain at all. There is still a lot to this planet and to what it is capable of that even science doesn't yet know. And you know what? It never will. Because it will always be a step or more behind observing and attempting to learn things and to learn it 100% correctly. So don't get me wrong, I like science, but it isn't all knowing so I prefer math more. I don't like science and math is the backbone of science because it quantifies everything...Sorry, but can't agree on it. Science had lost its math background about 100 years ago, when the process of formalization (since Turing, Carnap, Tarski, Godel, and so on) turned into the studying of structures, instead of calculations. Actually, there are at least (but there are many more) branches: one of such is an old rusty one that goes the traditional way about calculating it in a manner of numbers only (a total digital way), and a more newer school that accept numbers only because of its comfortable. But that later school has much more respects between scientists, because it does work, and all the computers prove it. Briefly, it doesn't really matter what kind of stuff you're aiming: numbers, smileys, letters, boxes, atoms, icons, bio cells, etc, because almost everything is possible to be programmed. If you know a particular law for a certain set of things, let's say, you know how to calculate a behaviour of polydiagonal morphine cells in polysterid chlorine reservoirs (etc), so you're already a scientist, and you can sell your knowledge to some facilities, or to publish it. Anyway, the modern scientists work with models, if you can support them with the IT stuff, you're already involved into their party. No clean number science more.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 16, 2022 7:42:14 GMT
I don't like science and math is the backbone of science because it quantifies everything... Sorry, but can't agree on it. Science had lost its math background about 100 years ago, when the process of formalization (since Turing, Carnap, Tarski, Godel, and so on) turned into the studying of structures, instead of calculations. Actually, there are at least (but there are many more) branches: one of such is an old rusty one that goes the traditional way about calculating it in a manner of numbers only (a total digital way), and a more newer school that accept numbers only because of its comfortable. But that later school has much more respects between scientists, because it does work, and all the computers prove it. Briefly, it doesn't really matter what kind of stuff you're aiming: numbers, smileys, letters, boxes, atoms, icons, bio cells, etc, because almost everything is possible to be programmed. If you know a particular law for a certain set of things, let's say, you know how to calculate a behaviour of polydiagonal morphine cells in polysterid chlorine reservoirs (etc), so you're already a scientist, and you can sell your knowledge to some facilities, or to publish it. Anyway, the modern scientists work with models, if you can support them with the IT stuff, you're already involved into their party. No clean number science more. And how is this calculating done? And how is this programming done?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 16, 2022 11:01:52 GMT
Sorry, but can't agree on it. Science had lost its math background about 100 years ago, when the process of formalization (since Turing, Carnap, Tarski, Godel, and so on) turned into the studying of structures, instead of calculations. Actually, there are at least (but there are many more) branches: one of such is an old rusty one that goes the traditional way about calculating it in a manner of numbers only (a total digital way), and a more newer school that accept numbers only because of its comfortable. But that later school has much more respects between scientists, because it does work, and all the computers prove it. Briefly, it doesn't really matter what kind of stuff you're aiming: numbers, smileys, letters, boxes, atoms, icons, bio cells, etc, because almost everything is possible to be programmed. If you know a particular law for a certain set of things, let's say, you know how to calculate a behaviour of polydiagonal morphine cells in polysterid chlorine reservoirs (etc), so you're already a scientist, and you can sell your knowledge to some facilities, or to publish it. Anyway, the modern scientists work with models, if you can support them with the IT stuff, you're already involved into their party. No clean number science more. And how is this calculating done? And how is this programming done? ? Well, very simple: if a hypothesis of a scientists or a group of them works in >92...97%, then it's very good, >85...91% good, and so on. Let's say you're a businessmen who is a farmer. And when you go to the special science shop to by some theories to increase or to pimp, or to modernize, or to advance your technique, or knowledge, or so on about the Earth, how to work on it, which tools are better, or how to repair them, and so on. Let's say the other farmers get about 80% of their tools+the earth work, but if you want to increase yours you can go to that special science shop and ask for some knowledge about it. A science manager can propose you some recipes, and after your buying you can receive more knowledge of how to modernize your equipment, or how to work more better, and so on. After that your potential may be increased into 5%, so while the other farmers get 80%, you will receive 85%. This may work in other way, let's say a whole country is interested to develop their own business, and they hire the scientists to find some new knowledge, and so on. After that each farmer (or another one businessmen) can use those knowledge to advance his skills in his profession or tools, and so on. Everyone is aware that science is not something that works 100%. Even the most genius scientist can make mistakes, so each scientist research might not be so successfully. Anyway, the better this works, the more profit we can achieve. And how is it work - mostly with math, but not only calculating. No. I'd say making models, using some theories, and then to check it. Let's say I'm a scientist who work with the groups of people who researches the nuclear plants, let's say Chernobyl. And according to some reports (let's say we can trust to those reports) in the territory of that plant there are golden bars are hidden. And the task is to obtain them, and make it as safety as possible. So, we can draw a map, draw a map of the buildings, and so on, put to that map the researches, and so on, + adding the tools, and to propose a way how to get it, then check our hypothesis on those maps to understand our mistakes or possible obstacles, and so on. Science is what works directly on such things. It wants to help us to make such huntings easier, faster, and more advancing. Of course, we can use the older info, let's say we can find some detectors for gold, find some rusty equipment, or to get some special suits. But even in that case our brains are what we do need to use. One person cannot be such a superhero to know about anything, that is why to have a group of researchers is more better. And no matter what, but to have a plan A, plan B, and so on is more preferable. Anyway, the sum of all those actions is what science does. But it doesn't mean the other time science is useless. It's possible to work on modeling in general, or to find out about theories - how to better work with them. One of examples is Karl Popper's falsification procedure. Honestly speaking he didn't discovered anything new, even Sextus Empiricus from III century AD reported of such methods had been using for many years, but role of Popper's argument is important as a part of a dialogue between positivists. So, it's better for us to propose a false theory that is possible to be proven (to justified and, then, verified) to cut the wrong info, or by reversing that false theory - to get the workable one. For example, let's say I make a statement that there are no polar bears in Afrika, then someone sends me a photo of the one in a local Zoo (somewhere in Afrika), and by that falsifying my theory. So, now we know that it's true that there are polar bears in Afrika.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 21, 2022 1:05:50 GMT
A lot of things have happened from ridiculous things and not everything is as ridiculous as it might seem to one. Yet, a lot of cultures report some kind of flood. Mystefying. Back then no one thought deaf people could ever hear but they can and even the blind might receive sight. A lot is possible. I can even fit at least a dozen baby elephants in my room and they'd have space but I am not into animals luckily so I won't worry about saving them in an apocalyptical situation but the things I do plan to save, you bet I will find a way to or I'd die trying. I even heard of mothers lifting up cars to save their child. Maaan. The supernatural capabilities humans can possess at times is remarkable or the ones that can't feel physical pain at all. There is still a lot to this planet and to what it is capable of that even science doesn't yet know. And you know what? It never will. Because it will always be a step or more behind observing and attempting to learn things and to learn it 100% correctly. So don't get me wrong, I like science, but it isn't all knowing so I prefer math more. I don't like science and math is the backbone of science because it quantifies everything so you have an odd relationship there. And the Western American modern Christian perspective is the only perspective in the world that takes the Bible in the way that they do every other culture understands that it is an esoteric book and that those are not literal stories. And I don't think you understand what a quarter of a cubic foot is a quarter of a cubic foot is 3 inches by 3 inches all around as in a 3" inch cube that's how much space each animal would have in total that's dividing it up evenly for all animals every single animal would only have a 3-in cubes worth of real estate doesn't matter if it's on the ceiling or the wall or the floor they only get three inches that's not counting food or where they go to the bathroom that doesn't count for any of that It is just the animal species we currently know about and only 1 of them I'm not even counting by the pare so doble that number and you are left with 1.5" cubes each which we are still adding to but being generous I will cut it off at where we know now and I won't assume any extra breeds or species but that leaves you with three square cubes per animal not counting the extra ones for sacrifices or the extra ones for them or even themselves. And yes other cultures mention a flood but like I said language was different back then they were talking about a mental spiritual flood not a literal flood like the Western literal mindset likes to paint everything as. But you're apparently not after accuracy or truth you're after confirming you're cozy narrative which is something I've never been interested in so I guess we'll agree to disagree I simply think you are over thinking things but yes bible is meant to be literal. Also, are you including dinos and water creatures and other poinless animals? Because they are not needed on the ark to survive and ark left them out. It is just a male and female of SOME animals who got to enter a massive ship that had 3 floors below it and the level on top of the floors that was exposed to the outside (deck). So there are more animals outside the ark then inside the ark. And saying it as a mental spiritual flood is again changing it slightly from what it was. All these slight changes added or removed will not work in the real story. It must be precise for the puzzle pieces to fit. Adding other puzzle pieces, removing some puzzle pieces, and putting them together incorrectly will not work in the end and it isn't the puzzle's fault but the person at fault. Jesus only needed 2 fish and 5 breads to feed thousands of people. He constantly says through OT and NT that He just needs the minimum amount to make extraodinary work. Dust to a male and male rib to a female just one of the first examples. He doesn't need much to make things happen. God is supposed to be powerful and almighty not weak and brittle needing help to complete things. He can actually make things from nothing happen because He is God not human. That is a big point most humans miss and that makes a lot of their puzzles hard to solve because they apply human logic to Godly puzzles.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 21, 2022 13:53:24 GMT
I don't like science and math is the backbone of science because it quantifies everything so you have an odd relationship there. And the Western American modern Christian perspective is the only perspective in the world that takes the Bible in the way that they do every other culture understands that it is an esoteric book and that those are not literal stories. And I don't think you understand what a quarter of a cubic foot is a quarter of a cubic foot is 3 inches by 3 inches all around as in a 3" inch cube that's how much space each animal would have in total that's dividing it up evenly for all animals every single animal would only have a 3-in cubes worth of real estate doesn't matter if it's on the ceiling or the wall or the floor they only get three inches that's not counting food or where they go to the bathroom that doesn't count for any of that It is just the animal species we currently know about and only 1 of them I'm not even counting by the pare so doble that number and you are left with 1.5" cubes each which we are still adding to but being generous I will cut it off at where we know now and I won't assume any extra breeds or species but that leaves you with three square cubes per animal not counting the extra ones for sacrifices or the extra ones for them or even themselves. And yes other cultures mention a flood but like I said language was different back then they were talking about a mental spiritual flood not a literal flood like the Western literal mindset likes to paint everything as. But you're apparently not after accuracy or truth you're after confirming you're cozy narrative which is something I've never been interested in so I guess we'll agree to disagree I simply think you are over thinking things but yes bible is meant to be literal. Also, are you including dinos and water creatures and other poinless animals? Because they are not needed on the ark to survive and ark left them out. It is just a male and female of SOME animals who got to enter a massive ship that had 3 floors below it and the level on top of the floors that was exposed to the outside (deck). So there are more animals outside the ark then inside the ark. And saying it as a mental spiritual flood is again changing it slightly from what it was. All these slight changes added or removed will not work in the real story. It must be precise for the puzzle pieces to fit. Adding other puzzle pieces, removing some puzzle pieces, and putting them together incorrectly will not work in the end and it isn't the puzzle's fault but the person at fault. Jesus only needed 2 fish and 5 breads to feed thousands of people. He constantly says through OT and NT that He just needs the minimum amount to make extraodinary work. Dust to a male and male rib to a female just one of the first examples. He doesn't need much to make things happen. God is supposed to be powerful and almighty not weak and brittle needing help to complete things. He can actually make things from nothing happen because He is God not human. That is a big point most humans miss and that makes a lot of their puzzles hard to solve because they apply human logic to Godly puzzles. You clearly cannot comprehend how cubic feet measurements work and it's obvious, I was only counting land and flying animals No it's not a literal story it's just a story it has a metaphysical meaning to it and I'm sure if the people alive when that story was made could see how so many people interpret it in a literal way they would think we had gone crazy But keep blinding yourself out of fear so that you don't have to adjust your beliefs which I find to be an evil characteristic that lots of people have in today's society but I guess I'm going to have to live with that fact.
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