Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 8, 2022 3:26:28 GMT
I thought that this video was fascinating because it covers some of my particular interests and fixations as a sperg.
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Post by jonbain on May 8, 2022 9:22:06 GMT
It lost me with the "European diseases" narrative.
I don't buy that at all, for numerous reasons.
Firstly, the medical narrative around diseases today is totally flawed
on many levels and adds up to little more than quackery, snake-oil,
and bland corrupt money-making based on the soulless narrative of
materialist exploitation via fear-mongering.
Secondly, disease occurs mostly due to a poor diet or water contaminated
with such things as fecal matter, especially human waste. These are universal
causes and have nothing to do with race. Both of these are typically caused
by over-population which every nation faces.
Thirdly, the way diseases are named is utterly arbitrary.
When a disease subsides for reasons outside of quackery, the latest
snake-oil is simply credited with the 'cure' and becomes a monopoly for a while.
When the disease returns, it simply gets renamed as a new disease.
Polio is now called multiple Sclerosis, the 'flu has been rebranded over and
over again in recent years ad nauseum.
Disease was rife in times of no refrigeration because the food rotted.
There likely was less recorded disease in native american culture,
for the simple reason that when disease began, tribes would kill off
the diseased villages which is why they were seen as war-like but healthy.
Demilitarization of natives by Christian visitors would then have had the consequence
of making it appear that there was more disease than before.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 9, 2022 7:53:23 GMT
It lost me with the "European diseases" narrative. I don't buy that at all, for numerous reasons. Firstly, the medical narrative around diseases today is totally flawed on many levels and adds up to little more than quackery, snake-oil, and bland corrupt money-making based on the soulless narrative of materialist exploitation via fear-mongering. Secondly, disease occurs mostly due to a poor diet or water contaminated with such things as fecal matter, especially human waste. These are universal causes and have nothing to do with race. Both of these are typically caused by over-population which every nation faces. Thirdly, the way diseases are named is utterly arbitrary. When a disease subsides for reasons outside of quackery, the latest snake-oil is simply credited with the 'cure' and becomes a monopoly for a while. When the disease returns, it simply gets renamed as a new disease. Polio is now called multiple Sclerosis, the 'flu has been rebranded over and over again in recent years ad nauseum. Disease was rife in times of no refrigeration because the food rotted. There likely was less recorded disease in native american culture, for the simple reason that when disease began, tribes would kill off the diseased villages which is why they were seen as war-like but healthy. Demilitarization of natives by Christian visitors would then have had the consequence of making it appear that there was more disease than before. Well, I'm not going to argue with you about the nature of diseases, because I find it pointless to argue about something such as this, but the European disease theory has nothing to do with race. Europeans had domesticated animals from Mesopotamia, like pigs, chickens, and cows and the like, that they lived in close proximity with, and traded diseases with, giving them an immunity to many infectious diseases. This is true for everybody on the Eurasia-Africa landmass not just, "white people." The Natives on the other hand didn't have many domesticable animals save for lamas and dogs (the ancestor of todays Chihuahuas) and thus hadn't had so many diseases or immunity to them. The 90% death rate of Natives by European diseases is pretty much an established fact that Native Americans themselves remember in their stories and call, "the great dying." Places where white people colonized and became a majority were places where diseases killed most of the native population (and had low population density in the first place), like North America, Australia, New Zealand, and Hawaii (kind of because whites share the island with a bunch of East Asian descendants of sugar plantation workers) that made them easier to subjugate and overrun. Europeans were not able to ethnically cleanse and supplant the Africans in the same way because the diseases worked the other way there, which is why Africa was not completely, or even mostly, subjugated until the very end of the 19th century, when Europeans developed medicines like quinine that helped them deal with these diseases. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 9, 2022 18:46:55 GMT
Speaking honestly, I don't like too much Germans in US. France, Scotland, Swiss, Dutch, Ireland, Norway, France, etc are okay, but not about Germany. Why so?
It reminds me of "American History X". Sometimes I ask myself - were KKK Germans?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 10, 2022 8:20:28 GMT
Speaking honestly, I don't like too much Germans in US. France, Scotland, Swiss, Dutch, Ireland, Norway, France, etc are okay, but not about Germany. Why so? It reminds me of "American History X". Sometimes I ask myself - were KKK Germans? I'm over a fourth German in ancestry. As to the KKK, that's an interesting question. The KKK came in three waves. The first wave came as a terrorist group in the Upper South that was formed to fight against the Yankee reconstruction occupation. Most of those people were Scots Irish (that's what we Americans call the protestants in Northern Ireland) hence the "Klan" part of the name. The second Klan came during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson and was a nationwide movement, that is, it was in the North as well as the South. There are way more Germans in the North than in the South, especially in the Midwest, where the Klan made huge inroads, but the second Klan was a nativist movement that espoused Anglo-Saxon supremacy (because the North didn't have many blacks but instead Jewish, Southern European, and Eastern European immigrants that were considered inferior). I think that other Germanic people and Northwest Europeans were considered able to assimilate by WASP racists of this sort, but it must be remembered that the Klan resurgence was during WW1 when there was a huge anti German hysteria. The third Klan was basically a Southern thing organized in opposition to the Civil rights movement in the 1950s and sixties. So to answer your question, there probably were people of German descent in the Klan at some points but the overwhelming majority were of British Isles descent in the South and Midwest. Really, Germans have one of the best histories regarding racism in the United States. They were overwhelmingly of an anti slavery sentiment in the Antebellum period and played a very big part in ending that institution. German and Nazi are not synonyms, and that is especially true in the United States. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 10, 2022 11:14:10 GMT
Speaking honestly, I don't like too much Germans in US. France, Scotland, Swiss, Dutch, Ireland, Norway, France, etc are okay, but not about Germany. Why so? It reminds me of "American History X". Sometimes I ask myself - were KKK Germans? I'm over a fourth German in ancestry. As to the KKK, that's an interesting question. The KKK came in three waves. The first wave came as a terrorist group in the Upper South that was formed to fight against the Yankee reconstruction occupation. Most of those people were Scots Irish (that's what we Americans call the protestants in Northern Ireland) hence the "Klan" part of the name. The second Klan came during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson and was a nationwide movement, that is, it was in the North as well as the South. There are way more Germans in the North than in the South, especially in the Midwest, where the Klan made huge inroads, but the second Klan was a nativist movement that espoused Anglo-Saxon supremacy (because the North didn't have many blacks but instead Jewish, Southern European, and Eastern European immigrants that were considered inferior). I think that other Germanic people and Northwest Europeans were considered able to assimilate by WASP racists of this sort, but it must be remembered that the Klan resurgence was during WW1 when there was a huge anti German hysteria. The third Klan was basically a Southern thing organized in opposition to the Civil rights movement in the 1950s and sixties. So to answer your question, there probably were people of German descent in the Klan at some points but the overwhelming majority were of British Isles descent in the South and Midwest. Really, Germans have one of the best histories regarding racism in the United States. They were overwhelmingly of an anti slavery sentiment in the Antebellum period and played a very big part in ending that institution. German and Nazi are not synonyms, and that is especially true in the United States. I think I was really wrong saying just "Germans". The truth is - thankfully to your explanation of it - there are at least two types of Germans. Of course. What a fool was I? I remember when my parent were in Germany (I was born in Germany) they encountered enough cases about how to live with Germans. And there were many good ones, friendly, and very talented ones, but... also there were some... well, I don't know how to say it. Twice it was horrible. One time they just threw rocks at my parents when they were travelling by train (my mother was preagnant). Then they were saying something "go home, USSR!" (or kinda, I don't remember what parents told me about it). And another case was that one German proposed my mother to sell me. That day my mother had to be alone in one train - my father was working and he could't come ealiers. So, she was alone at the train station (or in the train? I don't remember it also), and that German told her that he could give her plenty of Marks (or Deutch Marks? Some of such money I keep today in my shelf). As you can see she refused his proposition, but only this case impressed her to leave the country immediately. Anyway, I know that Germans were fighting with each other. Before their union there were many separated kindoms, and maybe that isolation made some effect on them. So, I want to correct myself saying instead that a part of Germans are really weird to me. And by the way, there are also many mixed blood Germans. I know that there are Dutch-Germans, Croatia-Germans, and Austria-Germans. One of the famous logician and philosopher in Germany Gottlob Frege was partially a Slav. So, I think we all may be really wrong gathering Germans together, while there are different people with different views, and that differentiation was one of the problem. Well, I don't know. I don't know much about Germans in US, almost nothing. You've brought me some information of it, so thank you for this. But could you tell me, please, what about German towns in US (like 'Chinatown', but 'German-town')? Are there any? |
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 12, 2022 3:14:48 GMT
I'm over a fourth German in ancestry. As to the KKK, that's an interesting question. The KKK came in three waves. The first wave came as a terrorist group in the Upper South that was formed to fight against the Yankee reconstruction occupation. Most of those people were Scots Irish (that's what we Americans call the protestants in Northern Ireland) hence the "Klan" part of the name. The second Klan came during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson and was a nationwide movement, that is, it was in the North as well as the South. There are way more Germans in the North than in the South, especially in the Midwest, where the Klan made huge inroads, but the second Klan was a nativist movement that espoused Anglo-Saxon supremacy (because the North didn't have many blacks but instead Jewish, Southern European, and Eastern European immigrants that were considered inferior). I think that other Germanic people and Northwest Europeans were considered able to assimilate by WASP racists of this sort, but it must be remembered that the Klan resurgence was during WW1 when there was a huge anti German hysteria. The third Klan was basically a Southern thing organized in opposition to the Civil rights movement in the 1950s and sixties. So to answer your question, there probably were people of German descent in the Klan at some points but the overwhelming majority were of British Isles descent in the South and Midwest. Really, Germans have one of the best histories regarding racism in the United States. They were overwhelmingly of an anti slavery sentiment in the Antebellum period and played a very big part in ending that institution. German and Nazi are not synonyms, and that is especially true in the United States. I think I was really wrong saying just "Germans". The truth is - thankfully to your explanation of it - there are at least two types of Germans. Of course. What a fool was I? I remember when my parent were in Germany (I was born in Germany) they encountered enough cases about how to live with Germans. And there were many good ones, friendly, and very talented ones, but... also there were some... well, I don't know how to say it. Twice it was horrible. One time they just threw rocks at my parents when they were travelling by train (my mother was preagnant). Then they were saying something "go home, USSR!" (or kinda, I don't remember what parents told me about it). And another case was that one German proposed my mother to sell me. That day my mother had to be alone in one train - my father was working and he could't come ealiers. So, she was alone at the train station (or in the train? I don't remember it also), and that German told her that he could give her plenty of Marks (or Deutch Marks? Some of such money I keep today in my shelf). As you can see she refused his proposition, but only this case impressed her to leave the country immediately. Anyway, I know that Germans were fighting with each other. Before their union there were many separated kindoms, and maybe that isolation made some effect on them. So, I want to correct myself saying instead that a part of Germans are really weird to me. And by the way, there are also many mixed blood Germans. I know that there are Dutch-Germans, Croatia-Germans, and Austria-Germans. One of the famous logician and philosopher in Germany Gottlob Frege was partially a Slav. So, I think we all may be really wrong gathering Germans together, while there are different people with different views, and that differentiation was one of the problem. Well, I don't know. I don't know much about Germans in US, almost nothing. You've brought me some information of it, so thank you for this. But could you tell me, please, what about German towns in US (like 'Chinatown', but 'German-town')? Are there any? You hit the nail on the head with Germany being separated into countless states before unification. As I understand it, Germany has many "dialects" really languages that one person from one part of Germany can't understand a person from another part. To speak to each other they speak a language called standard German. I don't think that Germans are truly one people in the way that say, Englishmen are. You asked if there are any German towns in the US in the same vain that there are China Towns. The answer to that is that German used to be the second most spoken language in the United States and there were many towns and settlements across the Midwest that were entirely German in culture. However World War 1 changed that when there was mass anti German hysteria and Germans had to abandon everything about them to avoid severe persecution. I recall hearing a story about an old man who had hazy memories as a child of speaking only German and living in a vibrant German culture in the Midwest but it seemed to him like a dream that he could scarcely believed had happed. There are some communities left that do still speak German though. There's the Pennsylvania Dutch (who Deutche i.e. German) and the Texas Germans who still speak a version of the German language. The section in the video talking about German Americans begins at 19:40 and gives a pretty good synopsis. |
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Post by karl on May 12, 2022 4:55:18 GMT
Clovis MerovingianAre there any Norwegian-American communities in the south, or are most living up north?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 12, 2022 7:13:08 GMT
Clovis Merovingian Are there any Norwegian-American communities in the south, or are most living up north? Most Norwegian Americans live in the Upper Midwest states like Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas and the like. There's also quite a few that live in the Pacific Northwest like in Seattle and the like. I know of a community in New York city too. Some of these Norwegians still speak Norwegian in parts of the Upper Midwest. The South is not known for having lots of Scandinavian Americans or really for having lots of European immigrant ethnic communities at all. That's mostly a Northern thing because the South is mostly old stock Americans. My Swedish ancestry comes from my biological grandfather who was a military man from Michigan. I once had one of the Pastors at my church who came from Pennsylvania from a Polish-American neighborhood that was aggressively proud of its Polishness. He said that one of the culture shocks coming here was that nobody knew where their ancestors came from and had these very WASPish names like Smith, and Jones, and Wheeler or otherwise Scottish names like Stuart, Campbell, and McDonald. My father often says that you can tell someone's from the North because they have some crazy last name. We'd always assumed that Pastor was from the North because his last name was Shimkus. My grandmother, who's also from Pennsylvania, explained to me that the difference between racism in the North and the South was that a lot of Northerners identified with an immigrant ethnic group and hated people based on that while in the South you were just white or black and that was the big dividing line. In the West apparently they hate Native Americans so that's a thing too I guess.  |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 12, 2022 7:24:34 GMT
I think I was really wrong saying just "Germans". The truth is - thankfully to your explanation of it - there are at least two types of Germans. Of course. What a fool was I? I remember when my parent were in Germany (I was born in Germany) they encountered enough cases about how to live with Germans. And there were many good ones, friendly, and very talented ones, but... also there were some... well, I don't know how to say it. Twice it was horrible. One time they just threw rocks at my parents when they were travelling by train (my mother was preagnant). Then they were saying something "go home, USSR!" (or kinda, I don't remember what parents told me about it). And another case was that one German proposed my mother to sell me. That day my mother had to be alone in one train - my father was working and he could't come ealiers. So, she was alone at the train station (or in the train? I don't remember it also), and that German told her that he could give her plenty of Marks (or Deutch Marks? Some of such money I keep today in my shelf). As you can see she refused his proposition, but only this case impressed her to leave the country immediately. Anyway, I know that Germans were fighting with each other. Before their union there were many separated kindoms, and maybe that isolation made some effect on them. So, I want to correct myself saying instead that a part of Germans are really weird to me. And by the way, there are also many mixed blood Germans. I know that there are Dutch-Germans, Croatia-Germans, and Austria-Germans. One of the famous logician and philosopher in Germany Gottlob Frege was partially a Slav. So, I think we all may be really wrong gathering Germans together, while there are different people with different views, and that differentiation was one of the problem. Well, I don't know. I don't know much about Germans in US, almost nothing. You've brought me some information of it, so thank you for this. But could you tell me, please, what about German towns in US (like 'Chinatown', but 'German-town')? Are there any? You hit the nail on the head with Germany being separated into countless states before unification. As I understand it, Germany has many "dialects" really languages that one person from one part of Germany can't understand a person from another part. To speak to each other they speak a language called standard German. I don't think that Germans are truly one people in the way that say, Englishmen are. You asked if there are any German towns in the US in the same vain that there are China Towns. The answer to that is that German used to be the second most spoken language in the United States and there were many towns and settlements across the Midwest that were entirely German in culture. However World War 1 changed that when there was mass anti German hysteria and Germans had to abandon everything about them to avoid severe persecution. I recall hearing a story about an old man who had hazy memories as a child of speaking only German and living in a vibrant German culture in the Midwest but it seemed to him like a dream that he could scarcely believed had happed. There are some communities left that do still speak German though. There's the Pennsylvania Dutch (who Deutche i.e. German) and the Texas Germans who still speak a version of the German language. The section in the video talking about German Americans begins at 19:40 and gives a pretty good synopsis. Wow, your info blazed me. I never thought that German is the 2nd language in US! I could never imagine this! I thought it was French. Well, I've heard from lots of people who studied in US schools or colleges that they learn French. You know I think that it changes the whole map of things for me: I think that US can be viewed as also brotherly to German. And maybe because of that some Germans are so mad about US. What do I mean? Well, I had few conversations with Germans (who live in Germany), and heard about it from other ones that within Germany there are lots of people who resist or do not support NATO, or the ones who blames US in all the sins. Actually, they share views like - US wants to dominate in the world, and that must be stopped... However, there are many cases kremlin bots share such info. This link can justify it, at least, partially: euromaidanpress.com/2019/09/05/bot-accounts-published-55-of-russian-language-tweets-about-nato-in-may-july/ And I do remember that one German told me in converstation to be careful with Americans... That was... well, I don't know. Honestly, I cannot accept the thought that US must be blamed in all the sins. I think it is a bad joke, not more. There are enough countries as China, Arabic Emirates, Iraque, North Korea, and so on who always do lots of terrible things. So, any demonizing US in all the sins is lack of critical thinking or a head on the shoulders. If % of Germans in US is so big, I guess these Germans are ones who are the better part of Germans at all. So, yeah, we have to think of different Germans. It works in many many countries like, for instance: Ukraine: a terrible person Illiya Kiva (he's now in Moscow) who proposed Putin to nuke a city of Lviv in Ukraine... He's a nut psycho. So, it can be said that all the Ukrainians are like Illya Kiva. Norway: as I know Norway is a very good country, but even here some extra persons can be meet. One of such is Varg Vikernes, who's not only the murderer, and arsonist (he burnt a Christian church), but he's a follower and a fan of Putin. So, I think it's fair for many countries. Maybe not about every country, North Korea, Russia, and Cambodia (in Pol Pot times) are wicked ones. Anyway, this is very glad for me to know about the other side of Germany. Gut. |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 13, 2022 2:43:38 GMT
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 13, 2022 2:50:08 GMT
You hit the nail on the head with Germany being separated into countless states before unification. As I understand it, Germany has many "dialects" really languages that one person from one part of Germany can't understand a person from another part. To speak to each other they speak a language called standard German. I don't think that Germans are truly one people in the way that say, Englishmen are. You asked if there are any German towns in the US in the same vain that there are China Towns. The answer to that is that German used to be the second most spoken language in the United States and there were many towns and settlements across the Midwest that were entirely German in culture. However World War 1 changed that when there was mass anti German hysteria and Germans had to abandon everything about them to avoid severe persecution. I recall hearing a story about an old man who had hazy memories as a child of speaking only German and living in a vibrant German culture in the Midwest but it seemed to him like a dream that he could scarcely believed had happed. There are some communities left that do still speak German though. There's the Pennsylvania Dutch (who Deutche i.e. German) and the Texas Germans who still speak a version of the German language. The section in the video talking about German Americans begins at 19:40 and gives a pretty good synopsis. Wow, your info blazed me. I never thought that German is the 2nd language in US! I could never imagine this! I thought it was French. Well, I've heard from lots of people who studied in US schools or colleges that they learn French. You know I think that it changes the whole map of things for me: I think that US can be viewed as also brotherly to German. And maybe because of that some Germans are so mad about US. What do I mean? Well, I had few conversations with Germans (who live in Germany), and heard about it from other ones that within Germany there are lots of people who resist or do not support NATO, or the ones who blames US in all the sins. Actually, they share views like - US wants to dominate in the world, and that must be stopped... However, there are many cases kremlin bots share such info. This link can justify it, at least, partially: euromaidanpress.com/2019/09/05/bot-accounts-published-55-of-russian-language-tweets-about-nato-in-may-july/And I do remember that one German told me in converstation to be careful with Americans... That was... well, I don't know. Honestly, I cannot accept the thought that US must be blamed in all the sins. I think it is a bad joke, not more. There are enough countries as China, Arabic Emirates, Iraque, North Korea, and so on who always do lots of terrible things. So, any demonizing US in all the sins is lack of critical thinking or a head on the shoulders. If % of Germans in US is so big, I guess these Germans are ones who are the better part of Germans at all. So, yeah, we have to think of different Germans. It works in many many countries like, for instance: Ukraine: a terrible person Illiya Kiva (he's now in Moscow) who proposed Putin to nuke a city of Lviv in Ukraine... He's a nut psycho. So, it can be said that all the Ukrainians are like Illya Kiva. Norway: as I know Norway is a very good country, but even here some extra persons can be meet. One of such is Varg Vikernes, who's not only the murderer, and arsonist (he burnt a Christian church), but he's a follower and a fan of Putin. So, I think it's fair for many countries. Maybe not about every country, North Korea, Russia, and Cambodia (in Pol Pot times) are wicked ones. Anyway, this is very glad for me to know about the other side of Germany. Gut. German used to be the second most spoken language in the US, as in before the great persecution of Germans during WW1. Now the second most spoken language is Spanish. But yes, there's a lot of anti Americanism that stems from Western Europe. There's lots of semi legitimate reasons that they give, but I really think that they don't like that they lost the hegemony they had over the world for almost five hundred years to one of their colonies. But the Germans have their own push to dominate others even outside the world wars. What Germans say about Americans many Europeans say about Germany's role in the EU so its a pot and kettle thing. |
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Post by karl on May 13, 2022 4:39:50 GMT
I found this website:
The 17th of May is the day of celebration of the Norwegian constitution. Here's how Norwegians dress up when celebrating it:
And here's a Norwegian-American in a 17th of May parade in Brooklyn:
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