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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 11:33:03 GMT
I’m an Agnostic, I believe religion is something the human brain invented in its early stage of (civilian) development. It was the answer to many unanswered things it had to process. Some kind of coping mechanism.
You see a trend of religions all over the world. They each created their own religions to answer their questions. For example Native Americans didn’t know what Christianity or Judaism was. So they created their own polytheistic religion. That to them was the way they could reason how things were as they were. Same for Viking Scandanavia with Paganism, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece and so on. Then you have Eastern religions which center more around philosophical beliefs like Buddhism, Taoism, etc. You have Hinduism. You have Africans who believe the great JuJu at the top of the mountain or whatever. You have Mormons who created a religion very recently compared to most other religions. Finally you have the Abrahamic religions which the majority of the modern world follow. You have monotheistic, polytheistic, Eastern, Western, Abrahamic, etc religions. But the thing that they all have in common was when each civilization was going through their civilian development they came up with a way to answer their questions. All through different times in history in different parts of the world.
All religions can’t be right because they all contradict each other but they can all be wrong.
Believing that there is something else out there greater than us that created this isn’t an illogical opinion. To point at a specific religion with a specific god and holy book is illogical and not plausible in my opinion.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 12, 2017 12:05:26 GMT
I agree that all religions can't be right.
But how does religion answer unsanswered questions always? Like mine doesn't tell me how exactly God looks like, doesn't tell me details of how He created the world, and it doesn't answer why He created space and the other planets. It just gives me a brief summary that He created the world and gave us laws to follow. That is all it really tells me :/
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 12:10:13 GMT
I agree that all religions can't be right. But how does religion answer unsanswered questions always? Like mine doesn't tell me how exactly God looks like, doesn't tell me details of how He created the world, and it doesn't answer why He created space and the other planets. It just gives me a brief summary that He created the world and gave us laws to follow. That is all it really tells me :/ Of course it does (answer questions that were previously unanswered) well for one it’s just a way to reason how the world came to be. Because especially in the times these religions came to be, they had no possible scientific way to theorize. They say it’s the Christian god. An almighty being created it. Creationism is then taught to explain our existence. This is a similar case across all religion.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 12, 2017 12:30:06 GMT
I agree that all religions can't be right. But how does religion answer unsanswered questions always? Like mine doesn't tell me how exactly God looks like, doesn't tell me details of how He created the world, and it doesn't answer why He created space and the other planets. It just gives me a brief summary that He created the world and gave us laws to follow. That is all it really tells me :/ Of course it does (answer questions that were previously unanswered) well for one it’s just a way to reason how the world came to be. Because especially in the times these religions came to be, they had no possible scientific way to theorize. They say it’s the Christian god. An almighty being created it. Creationism is then taught to explain our existence. This is a similar case across all religion. Ok, then you must know more details from the Bible. Why did He need other planets for example? Like the eight near us. What's the point of them? And were they created when Earth was created or before or after? I mean I honestly don't care to have answers but not that Bible tells me much though :(
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 12:43:09 GMT
Of course it does (answer questions that were previously unanswered) well for one it’s just a way to reason how the world came to be. Because especially in the times these religions came to be, they had no possible scientific way to theorize. They say it’s the Christian god. An almighty being created it. Creationism is then taught to explain our existence. This is a similar case across all religion. Ok, then you must know more details from the Bible. Why did He need other planets for example? Like the eight near us. What's the point of them? And were they created when Earth was created or before or after? I mean I honestly don't care to have answers but not that Bible tells me much though :( Because the men who wrote the Bible probably didn’t have much knowledge of the other planets. It doesn’t really mention such things from what I have been able to gather.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 12, 2017 13:01:10 GMT
Ok, then you must know more details from the Bible. Why did He need other planets for example? Like the eight near us. What's the point of them? And were they created when Earth was created or before or after? I mean I honestly don't care to have answers but not that Bible tells me much though :( Because the men who wrote the Bible probably didn’t have much knowledge of the other planets. It doesn’t really mention such things from what I have been able to gather. Then what does it really tell or answer? I think it leaves more questions...why must Lucifer exist? Why are there different races? Why the heck do some animals go extinct and others don't (did He not want them anymore?).
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 13:15:35 GMT
Because the men who wrote the Bible probably didn’t have much knowledge of the other planets. It doesn’t really mention such things from what I have been able to gather. Then what does it really tell or answer? I think it leaves more questions...why must Lucifer exist? Why are there different races? Why the heck do some animals go extinct and others don't (did He not want them anymore?). At the time for the civilian development of those peoples brains the religions they created answered their questions from what they were wondering at that time. If you notice Mormonism which is a more recent religion actually talks more about race and space. As they say people came from another planet and dark skinned people can become lighter by being good.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 12, 2017 13:31:24 GMT
Then what does it really tell or answer? I think it leaves more questions...why must Lucifer exist? Why are there different races? Why the heck do some animals go extinct and others don't (did He not want them anymore?). At the time for the civilian development of those peoples brains the religions they created answered their questions from what they were wondering at that time. If you notice Mormonism which is a more recent religion actually talks more about race and space. As they say people came from another planet and dark skinned people can become lighter by being good. They also basically say God is an alien living on another planet. Are they trying to connect what people think are aliens on other planets as God only?
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 13:34:33 GMT
At the time for the civilian development of those peoples brains the religions they created answered their questions from what they were wondering at that time. If you notice Mormonism which is a more recent religion actually talks more about race and space. As they say people came from another planet and dark skinned people can become lighter by being good. They also basically say God is an alien living on another planet. Are they trying to connect what people think are aliens on other planets as God only? Well I think the creator of Mormonism was just a conman. So whatever connection they make, is a result of a man trying to brainwash sheeple by creating something that sounded possible to unintelligent people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 13:37:52 GMT
You have Hinduism
It's a recent invention.
This word hindu is not found in any of the aryan civilization. What happened was that the excavations are harappa and mohenjodarho have made people to believe that indians have always existed, and they labelled themselves as indus valley civilization.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 13:42:59 GMT
Keep the things originating from india out in this. Indian religions are mostly philosophical, because the warrior culture got destroyed long time back. These indians have been living in darkness since time immemorial.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 12, 2017 13:43:58 GMT
They also basically say God is an alien living on another planet. Are they trying to connect what people think are aliens on other planets as God only? Well I think the creator of Mormonism was just a conman. So whatever connection they make, is a result of a man trying to brainwash sheeple by creating something that sounded possible to unintelligent people. So...what you are really saying is that he didn't create religion to really explain anything but to brainwash? If so, then I agree. I mean what can he really explain? He gave 50+ prophesies and only 2 came true. Only thing he explains to me is that he has a big ego and a small IQ.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 13:46:02 GMT
Well I think the creator of Mormonism was just a conman. So whatever connection they make, is a result of a man trying to brainwash sheeple by creating something that sounded possible to unintelligent people. So...what you are really saying is that he didn't create religion to really explain anything but to brainwash? If so, then I agree. I mean what can he really explain? He gave 50+ prophesies and only 2 came true. Only thing he explains to me is that he has a big ego and a small IQ. Bravo we agree, only I feel most religions are forms of brainwashing. The concept of religion is the biggest form of brainwashing to ever take hold of mankind.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 13:47:24 GMT
I can still consider paganism as relgion, especially the warrior cult, because a tribe want to emulate someone who is their high lords, so that they evolve.
Rest apart, book based cults are imperialistic ideologies.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 12, 2017 13:50:26 GMT
I can still consider paganism as relgion, especially the warrior cult, because a tribe want to emulate someone who is their high lords, so that they evolve. Rest apart, book based cults are imperialistic ideologies. Agreed.
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