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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 29, 2021 14:22:55 GMT
Have you heard about, you know, the Smellies or the Copelands, the Sallows, the Pussmaids, the Bhattacharjees, the Chopins, the Cintoras, the Hashmans, the Bancrofts, the Bodycombs, the Buddies, the Popplewells, the Tittwisties?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 29, 2021 16:34:03 GMT
nice. Smellies reminds me of someone I know and her new last name is Shmelling. This to me is like Smelling. I don't like it at all since it is like saying that is a family that smells.
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Post by joustos on Jul 29, 2021 17:27:37 GMT
Have you heard about, you know, the Smellies or the Copelands, the Sallows, the Pussmaids, the Bhattacharjees, the Chopins, the Cintoras, the Hashmans, the Bancrofts, the Bodycombs, the Buddies, the Popplewells, the Tittwisties? When they occur, last names are usually , or are usually based on, patronyms [names or epithets of some ancestor]. I find funny the whole class of names that are called theophoric, that is, bearing the word "god" in any language. These are a few examples: -- Elija [ = el+ ja = god-god; the divine Yah], a Canaanite name in Eblaite (Syriac) Canaan; inherited by the Hebrews, hence in the OldTestament and in English. -- Theophilos (= god-beloved), Greek. -- Diomedes (= Zeus' genitals), Greek, "dios" being the genitive case of Zeus. -- Amodio, seen on TV. Italian meaning "I love god".
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 29, 2021 18:03:00 GMT
I had a great-grandmother with the last name Hofacker. It's a German last name but it sounds obscene in English.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 29, 2021 20:17:09 GMT
Have you heard about, you know, the Smellies or the Copelands, the Sallows, the Pussmaids, the Bhattacharjees, the Chopins, the Cintoras, the Hashmans, the Bancrofts, the Bodycombs, the Buddies, the Popplewells, the Tittwisties? When they occur, last names are usually , or are usually based on, patronyms [names or epithets of some ancestor]. I find funny the whole class of names that are called theophoric, that is, bearing the word "god" in any language. These are a few examples: -- Elija [ = el+ ja = god-god; the divine Yah], a Canaanite name in Eblaite (Syriac) Canaan; inherited by the Hebrews, hence in the OldTestament and in English. -- Theophilos (= god-beloved), Greek. -- Diomedes (= Zeus' genitals), Greek, "dios" being the genitive case of Zeus. -- Amodio, seen on TV. Italian meaning "I love god". Thank you for detailed and phat explanation. I think that one of possible explanations of why people use some synonyms of God or directly its Greek transcription is the same as it was previously when they were giving names - as the oath for a person to have better luck. If this interpretation is correct, than I'd say that such names aren't far less from blasphemy.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 30, 2021 6:22:08 GMT
I had a great-grandmother with the last name Hofacker. It's a German last name but it sounds obscene in English. Wow I wonder how that name came about.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 30, 2021 18:26:06 GMT
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Jul 30, 2021 19:18:46 GMT
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Certain Welsh last names, such as ffolkes, are not capitalized. Proving how far apart academics are from normal people, I discovered it in one of their history books, where someone named ffolkes was mentioned numerous times and the author didn't even put in a footnote the reason that his name wasn't capitalized.
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Post by joustos on Aug 1, 2021 17:36:15 GMT
Thank you for providing the historical denotation of "hofacker". However, its original meaning [etym] remains unknown. Probably: hofacker = hoe + facker: -- hoe (the ground tilling instrument) < Franconian [Germanic] houuwa -- facker < Gr. Phak(os) = lentil, plant or fruit So, originally, a hofacker [ho'wa-fack-(er)] was a lentil farmer; later, any tiller at the service of Germanic people.
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Post by joustos on Aug 6, 2021 16:24:49 GMT
Some combinations of first and last name are weird or funny, if their meanings are known. E.g., after WWII in Italy there was a beautiful movie actress called Silvana Mangano. Unlike the first, her last name was and is rather uncommon. -- Silvana < Lat. Sylva (woods/forest); the lady of the woods. -- Ma`ngano is a word which, in some dialects, denotes an archaic instrument. I saw one in a farm: It consists of two wooden planks or beams which are attached but can rotate at one end, forming a V contraption. One beam, which rests on the ground, has a groove. The other beam, which can be handled, has a blade-like edge and can be pressed into the groove. It was used to chop some plants, such as Flax, so as to break them into fibers, which are used for making linen textiles. Mangano < Greek Magganon [pronounced Man-ganon], attested, e.g., in the online Bailly Dictionnaire Grec-Francais. So, "Silvana Mangano" = the chopping lady of the woods, or so........
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 6, 2021 17:52:38 GMT
Some combinations of first and last name are weird or funny, if their meanings are known. E.g., after WWII in Italy there was a beautiful movie actress called Silvana Mangano. Unlike the first, her last name was and is rather uncommon. -- Silvana < Lat. Sylva (woods/forest); the lady of the woods. -- Ma`ngano is a word which, in some dialects, denotes an archaic instrument. I saw one in a farm: It consists of two wooden planks or beams which are attached but can rotate at one end, forming a V contraption. One beam, which rests on the ground, has a groove. The other beam, which can be handled, has a blade-like edge and can be pressed into the groove. It was used to chop some plants, such as Flax, so as to break them into fibers, which are used for making linen textiles. Mangano < Greek Magganon [pronounced Man-ganon], attested, e.g., in the online Bailly Dictionnaire Grec-Francais. So, "Silvana Mangano" = the chopping lady of the woods, or so........ One really creepy last name comes to my mind, and this name is Machiavelli. The Borgia and the other families by Pope Alexander the Sixth weren't so terribly frightening, than Mr. Machiavelli.
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Post by joustos on Aug 6, 2021 21:00:48 GMT
Some combinations of first and last name are weird or funny, if their meanings are known. E.g., after WWII in Italy there was a beautiful movie actress called Silvana Mangano. Unlike the first, her last name was and is rather uncommon. -- Silvana < Lat. Sylva (woods/forest); the lady of the woods. -- Ma`ngano is a word which, in some dialects, denotes an archaic instrument. I saw one in a farm: It consists of two wooden planks or beams which are attached but can rotate at one end, forming a V contraption. One beam, which rests on the ground, has a groove. The other beam, which can be handled, has a blade-like edge and can be pressed into the groove. It was used to chop some plants, such as Flax, so as to break them into fibers, which are used for making linen textiles. Mangano < Greek Magganon [pronounced Man-ganon], attested, e.g., in the online Bailly Dictionnaire Grec-Francais. So, "Silvana Mangano" = the chopping lady of the woods, or so........ One really creepy last name comes to my mind, and this name is Machiavelli. The Borgia and the other families by Pope Alexander the Sixth weren't so terribly frightening, than Mr. Machiavelli. By the way, the Borgias were a Spanish family,,,, and Lucretia Borgia was defamed,,,,,, // What you find so terrible is not Machiavelli (the man and scholar) but what has been called "machiavellanism", namely the theory he desumed from history, that, in order to preserve political power, a prince or a despot has to be a lion (strong, forceful) and a fox (deceiving: making the people believe that what he does is for their own good). You may like reading his commentary on the Republic, wherefore he has been called the modern founder of political science [ or a political philosopher].Cheers.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 7, 2021 7:20:59 GMT
One really creepy last name comes to my mind, and this name is Machiavelli. The Borgia and the other families by Pope Alexander the Sixth weren't so terribly frightening, than Mr. Machiavelli. By the way, the Borgias were a Spanish family,,,, and Lucretia Borgia was defamed,,,,,, // What you find so terrible is not Machiavelli (the man and scholar) but what has been called "machiavellanism", namely the theory he desumed from history, that, in order to preserve political power, a prince or a despot has to be a lion (strong, forceful) and a fox (deceiving: making the people believe that what he does is for their own good). You may like reading his commentary on the Republic, wherefore he has been called the modern founder of political science [ or a political philosopher].Cheers. Borgias were Spanish? Oh, I didn't know that, thanks. Why I should put out Machiavelli, it waa him who brought those creepy ideas. "Machiavellism" for me is quite wider; perhaps, we need to add to it Max Schtirner, De Sade, Nietzsche. Maybe – as Mr. Popper wanted – we might add Plato himself to this list, but I'm not sure Popper's interpretation is so well. It doesn't mean I see no philosopher in Machiavelli. I think he knows what he writes, especially describing the virtue, or being able to use different styles of governing (a lion and a fox/vixen). But this is completely madness to see that ruler as a Christian ruler. Seems that the ruler by Machiavelli is someone else, except for a Christian. As I said I don't have anything against Machiavelli as a talented philosoper, but his image of the governer or the ruler is a creepy icon, nobody should follow. Politics must not be such as Machiavelli wrote about it.
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