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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 22, 2021 11:31:48 GMT
(By the Media I understand web resources as yt channels, twitter, tv, fb, inst, advertisement, etc.) I don't believe the media does anything good to youth. It sounds weird if to take into account that all what we hear from almost elsewhere is being translated by the media. But the media does it in its own way using its policies. I'd say that this idea has been known over years by works of Plato ("Republic", Ch. VII), Erasmus ("In Praise of Folly"), Orwell ("1984"), Bradley ("Fahrenheit 451") and by many other ones. This iss a thought of kinda subliminal control and hidden dictatorship. And what's the more interesting – it doesn't mean that this dictatorship must be seen and felt. The more important idea is that – this source of confusion might be in us directly (in our minds). Anyway, the media break the true into its director by their angle of view. And mostly this angle is a blunt angle that does not provide any help to a human being who wishes to become a person. If you want be smarter take a book, don't turn netflix. I think that spoiling and ruining the youth is a way how the media resources get their wealthy. This situation is so perfectly corresponded to the one Socrates had that it lefts me speechless. Really, the sophists who by Socrates must be responsible for screwing up the youth of Athens, Corinthus, and the other towns, including Spartah, just loaded the youth with the bull substance. The Sophists wanted just took some money doing nothing, except for twisting the morality of the youth. What is even more paradoxical is that the intentions of certain media resources can explain why the media badly affect on the youth. The media has no good explanations of it, but it still load us with crap. It reminds me of one anecdote Gilbert Ryle tells in his "The Concept of Mind": a novice student takes a part in the excursion his university has provided to him. He walks with his group, and a guide explains where is a campus, where's a first lecture yard, where's a lab, where's an administrative building, etc. The group have visited all the territory, and the excursion is about to end, as recently the student asks with worryingly: "And where is university?" ---------- ---------- ---------- The student thought it had to be a building or a pavilion; but he couldn't find out that it was a concept. So, the media has the same situation: the media itself is a problem. Just take away the clowns and situation will get better. theconversation.com/social-media-can-be-bad-for-youth-mental-health-but-there-are-ways-it-can-help-87613
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Post by Triangle on Jul 22, 2021 11:51:22 GMT
You text lacks evidence. Maybe Husserl can help us on that specifical question on evidence. Because what reasons a person have to believe us if we don't show her a minimum of a single evidence?
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Post by Triangle on Jul 22, 2021 11:52:30 GMT
You're reasoning in common grounds, but not showing anything new, my friend!
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Post by Triangle on Jul 22, 2021 12:10:55 GMT
A problem I see in social media is we don't have control over we are seeing, and to yt (for example) shows us a thing of our interest, takes a lot of time just seeing what is not our business.
To show us things which we don't have any necessity to see creates bubles in our mind, as thinking what we see in social media is the reality we life itself.
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Post by Triangle on Jul 22, 2021 12:17:36 GMT
A problem I see in social media is we don't have control over we are seeing, and to yt (for example) shows us a thing of our interest, takes a lot of time just seeing what is not our business. To show us things which we don't have any necessity to see creates bubles in our mind, as thinking what we see in social media is the reality we life itself. It's more easy to control opinion.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 22, 2021 13:46:18 GMT
A problem I see in social media is we don't have control over we are seeing, and to yt (for example) shows us a thing of our interest, takes a lot of time just seeing what is not our business. To show us things which we don't have any necessity to see creates bubles in our mind, as thinking what we see in social media is the reality we life itself. An interesting answer, nothing to say. So, you said by yourself that in our heads there can be some bubbles, but what you didn't noticed was that I was speaking about the youth. I'm glad you can separate things, but the youth can't do it. Some subliminal control are there.
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Post by Triangle on Jul 22, 2021 13:49:48 GMT
A problem I see in social media is we don't have control over we are seeing, and to yt (for example) shows us a thing of our interest, takes a lot of time just seeing what is not our business. To show us things which we don't have any necessity to see creates bubles in our mind, as thinking what we see in social media is the reality we life itself. An interesting answer, nothing to say. So, you said by yourself that in our heads there can be some bubbles, but what you didn't noticed was that I was speaking about the youth. I'm glad you can separate things, but the youth can't do it. Some subliminal control are there. Maybe I am wrong but there is youths who corrupt and youths who doesn't corrupt. If we talking about moral education, or create resistance to that kind of content, by education, maybe we are in truth.
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Post by Triangle on Jul 22, 2021 13:50:28 GMT
We cant control the media. Sadly they are in charge.
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Post by jonbain on Aug 4, 2021 14:02:14 GMT
We cant control the media. Sadly they are in charge.
The chinese govt took control of the media two years ago with money made from their economy of slavery which was paid for by them raping the oceans into a wasteland.
Now you all wear the mask of the slave because of their false threats and fake science. Fight back, or the chains of slavery are going to get all the more tight, until they throttle you.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Aug 4, 2021 17:16:45 GMT
(By the Media I understand web resources as yt channels, twitter, tv, fb, inst, advertisement, etc.) I don't believe the media does anything good to youth. It sounds weird if to take into account that all what we hear from almost elsewhere is being translated by the media. But the media does it in its own way using its policies. I'd say that this idea has been known over years by works of Plato ("Republic", Ch. VII), Erasmus ("In Praise of Folly"), Orwell ("1984"), Bradley ("Fahrenheit 451") and by many other ones. This iss a thought of kinda subliminal control and hidden dictatorship. And what's the more interesting – it doesn't mean that this dictatorship must be seen and felt. The more important idea is that – this source of confusion might be in us directly (in our minds). Anyway, the media break the true into its director by their angle of view. And mostly this angle is a blunt angle that does not provide any help to a human being who wishes to become a person. If you want be smarter take a book, don't turn netflix. I think that spoiling and ruining the youth is a way how the media resources get their wealthy. This situation is so perfectly corresponded to the one Socrates had that it lefts me speechless. Really, the sophists who by Socrates must be responsible for screwing up the youth of Athens, Corinthus, and the other towns, including Spartah, just loaded the youth with the bull substance. The Sophists wanted just took some money doing nothing, except for twisting the morality of the youth. What is even more paradoxical is that the intentions of certain media resources can explain why the media badly affect on the youth. The media has no good explanations of it, but it still load us with crap. It reminds me of one anecdote Gilbert Ryle tells in his "The Concept of Mind": a novice student takes a part in the excursion his university has provided to him. He walks with his group, and a guide explains where is a campus, where's a first lecture yard, where's a lab, where's an administrative building, etc. The group have visited all the territory, and the excursion is about to end, as recently the student asks with worryingly: "And where is university?" ---------- ---------- ---------- The student thought it had to be a building or a pavilion; but he couldn't find out that it was a concept. So, the media has the same situation: the media itself is a problem. Just take away the clowns and situation will get better. theconversation.com/social-media-can-be-bad-for-youth-mental-health-but-there-are-ways-it-can-help-87613 Big Brother Is Watching You Watch Him on TV (Tell a Vision)Even when they had healthy presentations, the media induced passivity. So from the very beginning, it was a tool to weaken our will and individuality. That condition of their audience made it easy to fill us with degenerate mind-poison.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Aug 4, 2021 17:32:47 GMT
A problem I see in social media is we don't have control over we are seeing, and to yt (for example) shows us a thing of our interest, takes a lot of time just seeing what is not our business. To show us things which we don't have any necessity to see creates bubles in our mind, as thinking what we see in social media is the reality we life itself. It's more easy to control opinion. 1950s Laws Would Give Us Back a 1950s EconomyThat would be an excuse for the self-appointed rulers to ban referendums, which are the only democratic rights. You're assuming that the way the people are controlled now, when they don't have self-determination but have a fake and impossible representation, is the way the people will vote if they take legislative power away from the pre-owned politicians. If the people are allowed the self-respect of making their own political decisions, they will not be so easily swayed as when they vote for whom, and not for what. So, as usual, the enemies of America create a situation and claim it is the way people are rather than the way they are made to be under the hereditary plutocracy's elitist tyranny in a republic under the guillotine-fodder's stinking Sacred Cow, the U.S. Constitution. The disastrous "popular vote" also begs the question. In a free country, the people would have the right to determine who else would vote and who could come into our country and become citizens. So what the present anti-American electorate decides is null and void.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Oct 2, 2022 8:19:58 GMT
You text lacks evidence. Maybe Husserl can help us on that specifical question on evidence. Because what reasons a person have to believe us if we don't show her a minimum of a single evidence? This is a perfect example of the crisis we have in the world that is the eradication of personal unique opinion and ability to properly observe and critical think and knowing how to apply wisdom in each individual situation in order to form a unique logical accurate effective opinion that is not tied to a group mind or preformed opinion that was created by the handlers that are in charge of controlling the masses which are responsible for giving everybody their mental tools which we all use for forming said answers and these tools are extremely effective at their job which is NOT the job we are told they are fore when we learn them growing up.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Oct 2, 2022 8:39:48 GMT
I was not raised with much outside influence I only went to town and saw other people 1 day a month and we didn't have TV and obviously i didn't go to public school And so the way I naturally think and process information is not the way the average person that went through all 12 grades of a public school does And I'm not saying that the way I think is the correct way and everyone else that's "normal" is wrong that's not at all what I'm saying What I am saying is that my workings and conclusions are very different and unpopular compared to the common every day individual And to be perfectly honest it makes me feel like the world's a lonely suffocating place at times , 8t feels like I'm in a simulation with nothing but robots that look like people but are connected to a hive mind of some sort that attempt's to try and mimic how a human being looks thinks and acts but can't do it exactly the right way and so that artificial tendency shows up in daily interactions and it can feel down right creepy I'm not going to lie. Now I'm not saying I'm right and the world's wrong and that people should be like me , hell by definition I'm the one that's messed up and society is the one that's right But I can't be like society even if I were to really try I can't undo my entire life of identity inorder to take on a new one that will function better in society so for now, I just whine about it on a philosophy forum 
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