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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2021 13:34:22 GMT
What exactly is it? Personally, I don't think a father figure is to blame. No one is to blame for someone's actions. The only one at fault is the one who did fault. Sure, the environment and the people will try to push you every which way but you decide your character and your actions. Unless you're a robot and a slave to everyone else who can't live and function in his/hers own body. www.livescience.com/toxic-masculinity-mystery.html
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Post by fschmidt on May 11, 2021 18:10:49 GMT
Toxic masculinity is masculinity that is toxic to modern depravity in the same way that a good medicine is toxic to bacteria.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on May 11, 2021 18:49:45 GMT
What exactly is it? Personally, I don't think a father figure is to blame. No one is to blame for someone's actions. The only one at fault is the one who did fault. Sure, the environment and the people will try to push you every which way but you decide your character and your actions. Unless you're a robot and a slave to everyone else who can't live and function in his/hers own body. www.livescience.com/toxic-masculinity-mystery.htmlMAN UP AND TAKE THE UPPER CLASS DOWN
Richkids are sissies afraid of all masculine images (they oppose smoking only because of the Marlboro Man mystique). Their Daddies make all our laws and cultural customs, buying the love of their brats that way.
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Post by antor on May 11, 2021 18:50:21 GMT
My opinion is that it mostly boils down to narrow mindedness and own insecurities. And of course amplified and distilled by "echo chambers" on the web like everything else.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2021 18:54:05 GMT
What exactly is it? Personally, I don't think a father figure is to blame. No one is to blame for someone's actions. The only one at fault is the one who did fault. Sure, the environment and the people will try to push you every which way but you decide your character and your actions. Unless you're a robot and a slave to everyone else who can't live and function in his/hers own body. www.livescience.com/toxic-masculinity-mystery.htmlMAN UP AND TAKE THE UPPER CLASS DOWN
Richkids are sissies afraid of all masculine images (they oppose smoking only because of the Marlboro Man mystique). Their Daddies make all our laws and cultural customs, buying the love of their brats that way. What? Are you saying I should man up and take ober the world and in making women run the planet? I think that's weird. We must all share the land equally. Too much manliness and too much feminism is bad. That's how gays and stuff form imo.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 13, 2021 7:03:53 GMT
Another feminists' bull****. They blame you, because only for your existence. Their logic isn't logic at all.
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Post by jonbain on May 13, 2021 22:03:34 GMT
its actually mostly sodomites with inferiority complexes most too ashamed to admit their weakness so they take their frustrations out on others, specifically women who remind them of their weakness, but much of it is an inter-generational malaise, symptomatic of post-traumatic-stress-disorder from warfare - its easy to say they are weak, we all are weak, and until you have seen what people and war can do to a person's humanity it would be wise to have sympathy rather than respond with a toxic reaction, which is kinda instinctive, but that itself is at the core of the problem
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Post by Triangle on May 15, 2021 2:59:40 GMT
It's a political concept who talks only about some feminine necessity of comprehension.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 15, 2021 5:23:36 GMT
It's a political concept who talks only about some feminine necessity of comprehension. And if topic was named: "All the men must be killed" it would be about some feminine necessity of daily sex?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 15, 2021 7:27:06 GMT
Yeah, but women are most attracted to this kind of man and everyone knows it so it's very hypocritical for women to complain about this when they knowingly fuel it and enable it. Also this description reminds me of Professional Wrestler Scott Steiner peace be upon him.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 15, 2021 8:28:59 GMT
Yeah, but women are most attracted to this kind of man and everyone knows it so it's very hypocritical for women to complain about this when they knowingly fuel it and enable it. Also this description reminds me of Professional Wrestler Scott Steiner peace be upon him. Absolutely true. I think women got much worse, than they were, so that's why the attention to them was finished. Today's women are less interesting, than any other times previously. So, the toxic masculinity must be indeed the women's unattractiveness.
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Post by Triangle on May 15, 2021 12:16:40 GMT
It's a political concept who talks only about some feminine necessity of comprehension. And if topic was named: "All the men must be killed" it would be about some feminine necessity of daily sex? Not sex, but to feel safe, to feel confortable, to feel their are loved, and other things.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 15, 2021 12:52:55 GMT
And if topic was named: "All the men must be killed" it would be about some feminine necessity of daily sex? Not sex, but to feel safe, to feel confortable, to feel their are loved, and other things. I think one of the key difference between people are any other animals is in that to feel something a human doesn't need to do something (i.e. make actions). With enough training a person can cause pain or satisfaction; or a person can change his views or review (=check) its own worldviews. Women aren't computers, and men don't need to push buttons at the right moment to activate them for certain (programmed) actions. Maybe I'm wrong, but as for me there's no contradiction if a certain woman would (truly) claim that she feel comfortable and loved if and only if she didn't loved by anyone at the time. Briefly: a woman feel good when everyone else thinks she doesn't feel good.
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Post by Triangle on May 15, 2021 14:03:29 GMT
Not sex, but to feel safe, to feel confortable, to feel their are loved, and other things. I think one of the key difference between people are any other animals is in that to feel something a human doesn't need to do something (i.e. make actions). With enough training a person can cause pain or satisfaction; or a person can change his views or review (=check) its own worldviews. Women aren't computers, and men don't need to push buttons at the right moment to activate them for certain (programmed) actions. Maybe I'm wrong, but as for me there's no contradiction if a certain woman would (truly) claim that she feel comfortable and loved if and only if she didn't loved by anyone at the time. Briefly: a woman feel good when everyone else thinks she doesn't feel good. Well, woman only cares for emotions. If you argue logically with a woman, you are losing your time. It's a matter of method, not logic. It's a matter of make them feel in certain ways, not to give them any kind of idea. If your furnish them with the emotions their need to feel, you are in the right path.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 15, 2021 15:20:26 GMT
I think one of the key difference between people are any other animals is in that to feel something a human doesn't need to do something (i.e. make actions). With enough training a person can cause pain or satisfaction; or a person can change his views or review (=check) its own worldviews. Women aren't computers, and men don't need to push buttons at the right moment to activate them for certain (programmed) actions. Maybe I'm wrong, but as for me there's no contradiction if a certain woman would (truly) claim that she feel comfortable and loved if and only if she didn't loved by anyone at the time. Briefly: a woman feel good when everyone else thinks she doesn't feel good. Well, woman only cares for emotions. If you argue logically with a woman, you are losing your time. It's a matter of method, not logic. It's a matter of make them feel in certain ways, not to give them any kind of idea. If your furnish them with the emotions their need to feel, you are in the right path. Time to time I speak with a woman logician (no bullshit). And she complained me that she was fired from her work, because of sexism, and so on. And she is working now to find and to publish any other woman logicians. So, I cannot agree with you that women have no logic or that the ones are far from it. I guess that we can think about the style. Actually, thinking logically might be even the problem for the whole logic. John Locke wrote: (unfortunately, I couldn't fight the original quote. It can be found in Cohen, Nagel "Introduction to Logic..." (comments and exercises to the 1st chapter)) .. briefly Locke wrote that people before Aristotle weren't so stupid to not being able to think logically, so.. and so on. And also, thinking logically as the machine does it, doesn't mean to think healthy and strictly rational (in a more wide sense...) Anyway, I wanted to say that I disagree with you on 'women&logic', but I understood your position, and I couldn't say that your words had no sense. Because there was an important thought in your last speech that the emotions were indeed important to women. And in turn I want to ask you: do you think men are not needed in emotions?.. I guess many of us are, while the conditions of circumstances can make us less touchy and open. Men, which turn to a Kantian style of behaviour - no feeling, no emotions, just cold rational thoughts, are soldiers, but not every man is a soldier.
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