Clovis Merovingian
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Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 11, 2021 9:15:01 GMT
Just for fun I've created a map where I've divided the world among civilizational lines. By civilization I mean the the broadest cultural classifications that it makes sense to group peoples into. I got the idea from reading Samuel P. Huntington's Clash of Civilizations but I think my map is more precise and intuitive than his was. I made many considerations in classifying these countries into civilizations such as race, religion, culture, and the intuitive way people talk about these regions in everyday discourse. If anyone has any questions as to why I've made these classifications let me know.
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,693
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 25, 2021 18:23:45 GMT
Welcome, ........ can you please transcribe your username into Roman letters? I read it as OU ER PAHTE [omicron, ypsilon, eta, etc.] but I am not well learned in Coptic. I suppose that the above H is already a Romanization of the letter that looks like an inverted S and stands for a rough aspiration, but there is no vowel after it [ as in the Roman "hoc"]. Anyway, how do you translate it?// Reaction to your final paragraph: Ethnically, or Race-wise, what were the people who created the Indo-European cultures or civilizations? For many reasons I have investigated, I suppose they were Whites, that is, Caucasoid, not Mongoloid, Negroid, or other, people, or hybrids thereof. (I do not identify races with nationalities or "continentalities". So, Europe is not the land of the Caucasoids. Africa is not the land of the Negroids. Etc.) A race is a biological breed which comprises exterior traits and cerebral/brain traits whose creative faculties are responsible for the historic cultures. The earliest creations are languages and gods. Then: Agriculture, Urbanization, and Metallurgy. The latest or most advanced, since the 17th century, are the sciences of the physical world and the electricity technologies and artifacts........ Finally have time to respond to this...... you actually transcribed my name perfectly! It simply means "great leopard." The ancient Egyptian word for "strength" is pehti/pehtj. The determinative of strength is the leopard head hieroglyph. It be worth mentioning that in other parts of Africa leopards are often the totem animal of a clan. What bothered me about your post though was claiming "whites" were a god like race, or something to that effect. I'm just curious to know exactly what basing that on? I don't believe that white people are some god like race or superior to other peoples or anything like that, but as a white person who's proud of the achievements of his ancestors, I have to ask. Are you not aware of the past five hundred years or so of history? You know where Europeans created the modern world? This internet we are having this conversation on was invented by white people as is most modern technology and right now even though the people on this forum come from every background imaginable we are all communicating in English. That is no accident as a historically white western country that speaks English all but rules the world. I mean no disrespect to Egyptians or other peoples but we Europeans (I prefer that term to the term white to describe my race) achieved an enormous amount in history.
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Post by joustos on May 25, 2021 21:31:02 GMT
Welcome, ........ can you please transcribe your username into Roman letters? I read it as OU ER PAHTE [omicron, ypsilon, eta, etc.] but I am not well learned in Coptic. I suppose that the above H is already a Romanization of the letter that looks like an inverted S and stands for a rough aspiration, but there is no vowel after it [ as in the Roman "hoc"]. Anyway, how do you translate it?// Reaction to your final paragraph: Ethnically, or Race-wise, what were the people who created the Indo-European cultures or civilizations? For many reasons I have investigated, I suppose they were Whites, that is, Caucasoid, not Mongoloid, Negroid, or other, people, or hybrids thereof. (I do not identify races with nationalities or "continentalities". So, Europe is not the land of the Caucasoids. Africa is not the land of the Negroids. Etc.) A race is a biological breed which comprises exterior traits and cerebral/brain traits whose creative faculties are responsible for the historic cultures. The earliest creations are languages and gods. Then: Agriculture, Urbanization, and Metallurgy. The latest or most advanced, since the 17th century, are the sciences of the physical world and the electricity technologies and artifacts........ Finally have time to respond to this...... you actually transcribed my name perfectly! It simply means "great leopard." The ancient Egyptian word for "strength" is pehti/pehtj. The determinative of strength is the leopard head hieroglyph. It be worth mentioning that in other parts of Africa leopards are often the totem animal of a clan. What bothered me about your post though was claiming "whites" were a god like race, or something to that effect. I'm just curious to know exactly what basing that on? Great Leopard, thank you for your response. I am sorry I introduced complicated issues of anthropology, but I did not mean to identify "whites" with "Anglo-Saxons", and I did not mean that the white race is god-like,... since it is the gods that are man-like (in their good and bad qualities). // I will try to briefly express my views in anthropology: There is a Human Species or Race, as the various Tribes or Peoples have much in common both biologically and culturally. Culturally, a tribe is "human" rather than beastly, if it has developed a language (to any extent), tools, and a theism or religion. Languages, gods, and (stone) tools are the earliest human inventions, indepenently of biological race, that is, physiognomy, colorations, and physical strength. Inventions are mental/cerebral but result from inter-relationships of humans and their habitat or world, wherefore eventually the Stoics will say that the Cosmos is that in which we live, move, and have our being. (The learned St. Paul will speak so of God rather than the Cosmos.) to be continued.....
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Post by joustos on May 25, 2021 22:23:43 GMT
Continuation. (I tried to avoid losing what I had written down -- a problem I occasionally face.) What can be said of a Race of people cannot be said of every individual member of that race. The individuals inherit biological traits and possibly some cerebral talents/potentials. Accomplished culture is inherited only externally and, as such, it can be adopted by other cultures/peoples. Every people has its own history, but, because of their inter-relationships, it is difficult today to describe the peculiar history of each race or race-defined nation. So, speaking collectively, human culture has advanced: radical inventions have been made by this or that People. 2nd stage: agriculture, metallurgy, the alphabet, etc. 3rd stage: poetry and the theater, philosophy, mathematics, medicine, aesthetic arts; and Renaissance thereof + Classical/Tonal Music; 3rd stage : The Recontrivance [industrial revolution, Enlightenment], the sciences of nature, the Age of current electricity, etc., since the 17th century -- initiated by Whites in the Western World.
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Post by ⲟⲩⲏⲣ ⲡⲁϩⲧⲉ on May 26, 2021 0:12:24 GMT
Finally have time to respond to this...... you actually transcribed my name perfectly! It simply means "great leopard." The ancient Egyptian word for "strength" is pehti/pehtj. The determinative of strength is the leopard head hieroglyph. It be worth mentioning that in other parts of Africa leopards are often the totem animal of a clan. What bothered me about your post though was claiming "whites" were a god like race, or something to that effect. I'm just curious to know exactly what basing that on? I don't believe that white people are some god like race or superior to other peoples or anything like that, but as a white person who's proud of the achievements of his ancestors, I have to ask. Are you not aware of the past five hundred years or so of history? You know where Europeans created the modern world? This internet we are having this conversation on was invented by white people as is most modern technology and right now even though the people on this forum come from every background imaginable we are all communicating in English. That is no accident as a historically white western country that speaks English all but rules the world. I mean no disrespect to Egyptians or other peoples but we Europeans (I prefer that term to the term white to describe my race) achieved an enormous amount in history. The creation of the modern world extends beyond the past five hundred years, I think it would be more accurate to say that Greco-Roman civilization has continued through the offshoots that emerged from the Roman political system, and were transformed by Roman and Greek culture. The Germanic and Celtic peoples especially adapted and borrowed certain aspects of Roman/Etruscan culture and the Roman political system to their own political systems and culture. Latin vastly changed languages such as Anglo-Saxon into modern English, and it was the Norman invasion of Britain which introduced an already heavily Latinized French language to the Anglo-Saxon inhabitants of England. The Roman alphabets origin is Greek, in turn the Greeks got their alphabet from the Phoenicians. We are typing in a language that has retained some of its Old Anglo-Saxon grammer, while the alphabet originated from the West Semitic language, or possibly ancient Egypt alphabet.
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,693
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 27, 2021 16:54:48 GMT
I don't believe that white people are some god like race or superior to other peoples or anything like that, but as a white person who's proud of the achievements of his ancestors, I have to ask. Are you not aware of the past five hundred years or so of history? You know where Europeans created the modern world? This internet we are having this conversation on was invented by white people as is most modern technology and right now even though the people on this forum come from every background imaginable we are all communicating in English. That is no accident as a historically white western country that speaks English all but rules the world. I mean no disrespect to Egyptians or other peoples but we Europeans (I prefer that term to the term white to describe my race) achieved an enormous amount in history. The creation of the modern world extends beyond the past five hundred years, I think it would be more accurate to say that Greco-Roman civilization has continued through the offshoots that emerged from the Roman political system, and were transformed by Roman and Greek culture. The Germanic and Celtic peoples especially adapted and borrowed certain aspects of Roman/Etruscan culture and the Roman political system to their own political systems and culture. Latin vastly changed languages such as Anglo-Saxon into modern English, and it was the Norman invasion of Britain which introduced an already heavily Latinized French language to the Anglo-Saxon inhabitants of England. The Roman alphabets origin is Greek, in turn the Greeks got their alphabet from the Phoenicians. We are typing in a language that has retained some of its Old Anglo-Saxon grammer, while the alphabet originated from the West Semitic language, or possibly ancient Egypt alphabet. Yeah, but most of those groups you mentioned, the Greeks and Romans, the Etruscans, the Germanics and Celts were European. When I say Europeans invented the modern world i'm talking about the industrial revolution, the enlightenment, and the scientific revolution and the endless amounts of inventions that Europeans are responsible for like the automobile, the airplane, modern medicine, the harnessing of electricity, the scientific method, the discovery of gravity, nuclear power, the television, radio, landing on the moon and sticking an American flag on it, the internet and pretty much everything that defines society as "modern" rather than "pre-modern". This isn't me drum beating about how Europeans are better than anyone else either (because they're not) but your post implied that Europeans (not Anglo Saxons but all Europeans and their diaspora though the English probably are the most accomplished of the Europeans all things considered) had no accomplishments for Joustos (who's Southern Italian not Anglo Saxon) to base his racism on using Ancient Egypt as a reason to debunk him. Comparing an ancient culture to modern ones is like comparing a chariot to the modern automobile, it will always come up short in terms of technology and achievements. The Ancient Egyptians could never have put a man on the moon, they had no conception that the moon was even spherical.
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Post by Polaris on Oct 3, 2021 19:33:56 GMT
Just for fun I've created a map where I've divided the world among civilizational lines. By civilization I mean the the broadest cultural classifications that it makes sense to group peoples into. I got the idea from reading Samuel P. Huntington's Clash of Civilizations but I think my map is more precise and intuitive than his was. I made many considerations in classifying these countries into civilizations such as race, religion, culture, and the intuitive way people talk about these regions in everyday discourse. If anyone has any questions as to why I've made these classifications let me know. Does anyone of you guys have a copy of Huntington's Clash of Civilizations?
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 3, 2021 23:02:02 GMT
Nice map, I think it is accurate. The only problem is that all current civilizations are worthless, so this is sort of like drawing a map of areas controlled by different red ant colonies.
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Post by jonbain on Oct 4, 2021 21:45:59 GMT
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