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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 7, 2021 8:13:22 GMT
Generally I'd rather met people who were against any politics /the practice of political rulers or govt elites/. They argued the politicians were greed, selfish or inhuman; or they blame the opposition /for them/ politicians, whole the others do the same against the first ones, and so on.
Summary each of them was negative to their counter-viewers, that means nothing, but mostly the involved into politics people play the play described in the famous "Leviathan" by Thomas Hobbes. There people being scared of the nature, themselves, and of each other, subliminally created a monster called Leviathan which was an embodiment of the government itself.
As analogy to, you know, all such places as the toilets, water-closets, laundries, dumps, junk yards, and so on the politics has to be viewed closely to it – as a dirty abstract practice. Or, probably, as the immoral or pathetic thinking practice – when someone is plotting something ugly and terrible.
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Post by Polaris on Mar 7, 2021 11:42:56 GMT
Generally I'd rather met people who were against any politics /the practice of political rulers or govt elites/. They argued the politicians were greed, selfish or inhuman; or they blame the opposition /for them/ politicians, whole the others do the same against the first ones, and so on. Summary each of them was negative to their counter-viewers, that means nothing, but mostly the involved into politics people play the play described in the famous "Leviathan" by Thomas Hobbes. There people being scared of the nature, themselves, and of each other, subliminally created a monster called Leviathan which was an embodiment of the government itself. As analogy to, you know, all such places as the toilets, water-closets, laundries, dumps, junk yards, and so on the politics has to be viewed closely to it – as a dirty abstract practice. Or, probably, as the immoral or pathetic thinking practice – when someone is plotting something ugly and terrible. it is a general characteristic of today's world institutions that the games played by the employees are set in a way that fosters individual gains rather than the welfare of the institution. |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 7, 2021 11:58:04 GMT
Well, while I think that Hobbes went too far in prescribing an authoritarian government to control every type of people (some cultures have shown they don't need a strongman to keep them in line and that they can live in a free society), he was absolutely right in his general premise. Humans in the absence of order and restraint are absolute beasts to one another. Humans are stained with the taint of sin that makes their nature inherently evil. All of history from Sumer to the twenty-first century has proven this and it is shown that tribal societies without a strong state are even more violent and murderous than their civilized kin. The dirty deeds of politics are a consequence of this same taint of sin except practiced in a civilized society with proper restraints. If there were no rules these people would murder their enemies and take what they want by force and violence rather than through duplicity and manipulation.
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