Post by johnbc on Dec 3, 2020 20:08:48 GMT
Christ made bread in His body and wine in His blood materially. He says, "This is my body, this is my blood". How does He do that? It seems very difficult for people who only understand the incarnate Christ as a human being. They do not really understand that the Christ incarnated as a human being is the same primordial Logos that created everything.
The Logos is the creator of matter, so matter is at His disposal to do whatever He wants with matter, if it is not that then He is not the Logos, and if He is not the Logos then He is not Jesus Christ. He's just an evangelical pastor (or a Catholic priest if you like). The transubstantiation that so much shocks the grossest and most material intelligences, metaphysically speaking, is an obvious requirement. If the One who created the matter does not have the matter at His disposal, who else will? And if Christ does not have total power over matter, He is not the Christ simply, he is just a saint, or a prophet, an Elijah or John the Baptist, any other man from heaven.
The Church had to use the instruments created by Aristotle in order to expose certain truths in a humanly understandable language. And one of these truths is the very notion of Logos as the creator of matter. In the Catholic creed it is written that everything was created by the Logos, by Jesus, God the Father did not create directly, he created through Jesus, from the Logos. So, the Logos is the Lord of matter. This means that He can transmute into Himself whatever He desires. He can transmute Himself into a thorn that is on fire, the thorn speaks to Moses, and it is God who is speaking. He can transform Himself into the celestial sky as in the passage of John the Baptist, in which the skies begins to speak. And He can transform Himself into bread and wine!
There is no matter without the Logos, because, says the apostle: "In Him we live, we move and we are". Everything that exists, exists in God. This means the following: that if there is no Logos there is no matter at all! So many people who claim to have faith in Christ, seem to have faith in a Protestant pastor, a preacher, a prophet or something, but it is not the divine Logos. Because if you understand that He is the divine Logos and that He say the bread is Him, it is because the bread is Him. Period.
And even more; if Jesus were not in bread and wine, we in eating bread and drinking wine would not become fleshly Jesus Christ, and if we do not become fleshly Jesus Christ, how can we have eternal life if God has not promised the survival of our souls but also the resurrection of our bodies? How is the body not sanctified by the presence of Christ to rise and have eternal life? This is not a matter of theology, it is a matter of knowing how to read. And knowing how to read is not just reading sentence by sentence, but knowing how to relate one sentence to another.
The Logos is the creator of matter, so matter is at His disposal to do whatever He wants with matter, if it is not that then He is not the Logos, and if He is not the Logos then He is not Jesus Christ. He's just an evangelical pastor (or a Catholic priest if you like). The transubstantiation that so much shocks the grossest and most material intelligences, metaphysically speaking, is an obvious requirement. If the One who created the matter does not have the matter at His disposal, who else will? And if Christ does not have total power over matter, He is not the Christ simply, he is just a saint, or a prophet, an Elijah or John the Baptist, any other man from heaven.
The Church had to use the instruments created by Aristotle in order to expose certain truths in a humanly understandable language. And one of these truths is the very notion of Logos as the creator of matter. In the Catholic creed it is written that everything was created by the Logos, by Jesus, God the Father did not create directly, he created through Jesus, from the Logos. So, the Logos is the Lord of matter. This means that He can transmute into Himself whatever He desires. He can transmute Himself into a thorn that is on fire, the thorn speaks to Moses, and it is God who is speaking. He can transform Himself into the celestial sky as in the passage of John the Baptist, in which the skies begins to speak. And He can transform Himself into bread and wine!
There is no matter without the Logos, because, says the apostle: "In Him we live, we move and we are". Everything that exists, exists in God. This means the following: that if there is no Logos there is no matter at all! So many people who claim to have faith in Christ, seem to have faith in a Protestant pastor, a preacher, a prophet or something, but it is not the divine Logos. Because if you understand that He is the divine Logos and that He say the bread is Him, it is because the bread is Him. Period.
And even more; if Jesus were not in bread and wine, we in eating bread and drinking wine would not become fleshly Jesus Christ, and if we do not become fleshly Jesus Christ, how can we have eternal life if God has not promised the survival of our souls but also the resurrection of our bodies? How is the body not sanctified by the presence of Christ to rise and have eternal life? This is not a matter of theology, it is a matter of knowing how to read. And knowing how to read is not just reading sentence by sentence, but knowing how to relate one sentence to another.