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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 12, 2020 15:16:45 GMT
If you're an agnostic you can make less mistakes, than a believer believing in this or that. If you're a believer your faith is warm you from the inside, and you're more closer to something unknowable. Because of it, firstly, I guess mistakes are welcome since we don't know where the draw line – the the line of criteria – is, and secondly, that's why being a believer is more worthy, than an agnostic.
What do you think, ha?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Oct 30, 2022 0:27:34 GMT
Worthy is set by the beliefs of the individual and those that judge him
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Post by Neuron420 on Jun 3, 2023 23:35:50 GMT
Most agnostics want to believe in a god, but they can't seem to wrap their heads around religious dogmas, and the circular logic used to explain religion. I used to call myself an agnostic, but my father-in-law, who was a retired minister, said that agnostics were just lazy atheist and were afraid to commit to a side. I thought about it and realized that in my case he was right! So, I quit calling myself an agnostic and switched to calling myself an atheist. I am pretty sure that wasn't what he wanted me to do, but he was right.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 10, 2023 14:20:55 GMT
Most agnostics want to believe in a god, but they can't seem to wrap their heads around religious dogmas, and the circular logic used to explain religion. I used to call myself an agnostic, but my father-in-law, who was a retired minister, said that agnostics were just lazy atheist and were afraid to commit to a side. I thought about it and realized that in my case he was right! So, I quit calling myself an agnostic and switched to calling myself an atheist. I am pretty sure that wasn't what he wanted me to do, but he was right. This is an interesting point. I mean, with me it happened lots of times when someone called me, let's say, a romantic (type of person), but I was looking to find any routes to escape that tagging, and tried to re-shape or re-do anything, not to look for any reconciliation myself with that name. It means the names or the tags are sort of functions of us in society. For instance, one can play a role of atheist, but not being him completely. Sometimes thinking of how society used that cliché and different placeholders (structure, etc) for its members drives me crazy. In that moments I feel like I'm not nothing, but a puppet in the hands of society. And that leads me to another important thought - how to easily change societies? It's possible that the real causes of discomfort is from the society. For example, if a certain society welcomes as atheists so theists, and it makes them feeling comfortable, maybe by making them get into generous and noble debates, or kinda. I do not have a least hesitation that in such societies atheists would be friends to theists, or vice versa. So, maybe the problem of agnostics is centrally in societies and their inner architecture.
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Post by Neuron420 on Jul 19, 2023 3:21:30 GMT
As an atheist I have many friends that are Christians. They are comfortable with their religion, and I am comfortable around them. Those that know me, know that I am a genuinely good person. I don't belittle their beliefs unless they try to hold me to their dogmas. In fact, I work for the local Archdioceses. Since I am a semi-retired executive chef, I run all of the different food programs and work with the International kids from all over the world. I do my best to not get involved in religious discussions because that seldom works out in a good way. I live by the standard of, "You live your life, and I will live mine. If you don't like my beliefs, oh well, that's your problem not mine" Maybe we will be friends or maybe not, but I am not going to pretend to believe in something that I do not believe in. I have no problem in stating my beliefs if asked. I recognize that atheist are not trusted by many people, still not my problem. I will not lie to make others feel more comfortable about themselves. Cheers!
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 19, 2023 4:24:12 GMT
As an atheist I have many friends that are Christians. They are comfortable with their religion, and I am comfortable around them. Those that know me, know that I am a genuinely good person. I don't belittle their beliefs unless they try to hold me to their dogmas. In fact, I work for the local Archdioceses. Since I am a semi-retired executive chef, I run all of the different food programs and work with the International kids from all over the world. I do my best to not get involved in religious discussions because that seldom works out in a good way. I live by the standard of, "You live your life, and I will live mine. If you don't like my beliefs, oh well, that's your problem not mine" Maybe we will be friends or maybe not, but I am not going to pretend to believe in something that I do not believe in. I have no problem in stating my beliefs if asked. I recognize that atheist are not trusted by many people, still not my problem. I will not lie to make others feel more comfortable about themselves. Cheers! Marvelous!! You are indeed a good person! You know it was my dream to have my own bar or café. Not a big one, because I couldn't handle to run a big or even the middle one. I find this way of working to be something very generous, and very kind. Also, I know that this is not easy a little bit, my cousin was working a chief-cooker (in Crimea, by the way), and he told me about it. By the way, have you tasted borscht? I asked different people from around the world, people answered differently. For example, my two friends from Japan said that they were in love with it, moreover they'd joined the group of people who signed the petition for facebook to create a borscht emoji. Also, good words about borscht I heard of one girl from Mexico. She also said she liked it. Most pf Americans I asked and a guy from Sweden said rather "no". And of course I accept that, because tastes are different of people, and this is absolutely okay.
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Post by jonbain on Jul 19, 2023 15:11:37 GMT
As an atheist I have many friends that are Christians. They are comfortable with their religion, and I am comfortable around them. Those that know me, know that I am a genuinely good person. I don't belittle their beliefs unless they try to hold me to their dogmas. In fact, I work for the local Archdioceses. Since I am a semi-retired executive chef, I run all of the different food programs and work with the International kids from all over the world. I do my best to not get involved in religious discussions because that seldom works out in a good way. I live by the standard of, "You live your life, and I will live mine. If you don't like my beliefs, oh well, that's your problem not mine" Maybe we will be friends or maybe not, but I am not going to pretend to believe in something that I do not believe in. I have no problem in stating my beliefs if asked. I recognize that atheist are not trusted by many people, still not my problem. I will not lie to make others feel more comfortable about themselves. Cheers!
Sounds well in theory, but what is your take on using aborted fetuses as medicine? I don't mean then alleged efficacy thereof, but the ethics of it.
You see its all fine and well to live and let live, in normal social contexts that do not push our ethical boundaries, but assuming you are 'good', you should find the use of 'stem cell medicines' repugnant.
But what I am getting to is that your ethical instincts are likely rooted in the spiritual christian ethic which you take for granted. Like taboos against incest and rape, etc.
So what I am asking, is what reasons you can give for defending these values? Unless of course you do not.
Do you approve of enforced medication (aka euthanasia) which is the norm in atheist society?
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Post by Neuron420 on Aug 13, 2023 22:35:44 GMT
Sounds well in theory, but what is your take on using aborted fetuses as medicine? I don't mean then alleged efficacy thereof, but the ethics of it. If the abortions were done with permission by the mother, I have no problem with them being used to help others. Much like tissue, blood vessels, bones, and eyes are donated to help others.
You see its all fine and well to live and let live, in normal social contexts that do not push our ethical boundaries, but assuming you are 'good', you should find the use of 'stem cell medicines' repugnant. This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I beg to defer. It is shameful to have a way to positively impact others and not do so. It beats throwing them in the trash.
But what I am getting to is that your ethical instincts are likely rooted in the spiritual christian ethic which you take for granted. Like taboos against incest and rape, etc. Of course I have values that were influenced by Christian ethics, I was raised and indoctrinated in those beliefs from the moment of birth. I grew up in a Christian household in a Christian society.
So what I am asking, is what reasons you can give for defending these values? Unless of course you do not. I don't support any ideas that make incest and rape right. Do you assume that I will defend these values because I am an atheist?
Do you approve of enforced medication (aka euthanasia) which is the norm in atheist society? Euthanasia or Assisted Suicide? I full support a person that has run out of road with a serious disease or injury that will prevent them from ever regaining their quality of life. It is their right as a human being to determine their exit from this world. As for involuntary euthanasia, of course I am against that! I am not a monster!
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 14, 2023 14:14:32 GMT
Sounds well in theory, but what is your take on using aborted fetuses as medicine? I don't mean then alleged efficacy thereof, but the ethics of it. If the abortions were done with permission by the mother, I have no problem with them being used to help others. Much like tissue, blood vessels, bones, and eyes are donated to help others.You see its all fine and well to live and let live, in normal social contexts that do not push our ethical boundaries, but assuming you are 'good', you should find the use of 'stem cell medicines' repugnant. This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I beg to defer. It is shameful to have a way to positively impact others and not do so. It beats throwing them in the trash. But what I am getting to is that your ethical instincts are likely rooted in the spiritual christian ethic which you take for granted. Like taboos against incest and rape, etc. Of course I have values that were influenced by Christian ethics, I was raised and indoctrinated in those beliefs from the moment of birth. I grew up in a Christian household in a Christian society.So what I am asking, is what reasons you can give for defending these values? Unless of course you do not. I don't support any ideas that make incest and rape right. Do you assume that I will defend these values because I am an atheist?Do you approve of enforced medication (aka euthanasia) which is the norm in atheist society? Euthanasia or Assisted Suicide? I full support a person that has run out of road with a serious disease or injury that will prevent them from ever regaining their quality of life. It is their right as a human being to determine their exit from this world. As for involuntary euthanasia, of course I am against that! I am not a monster!It's kinda hard to read when some text is bolded so much. None of societies are satisfied. There might be evil scientists, christian inquision, immoral kings, whatsoever. It might be that in one case a fetus is needed for science to find something really important - for the sake of humanity. But I can't say that this is a good tactic for humanity. I wish everyone lives happy and well, and there would be no wars, no crimes, etc. Is it possible? I guess, no. Precidely, I don't believe it's possible. This world seems to be devoured by darkness. Personally, I wouldn't count to live here happily, since I can't trust to this reality. Even if people were less rude, and more kind, disasters and plague could bring lots of troubles. However I don't refuse for some changes to occur. And usually when any changes occur it seems that it leads to the situation, wherre some wins, and some looses. No balance is there. If we can't make evil to vanish away, can we make this world to be less dangerous and less unpredictable? But living in societies (especially, cities-like) how can this be possible to achieve? Career, neighbours, resources, etc these and more are what people are still hunting for. I don't think such plague in a soul is greed has been won. No. One can expect from his own friend to be betrayed by him. You know, I don't think it's enough to be a believer. One can consider himself as a believer, but what's a big deal if he still does what he's always been doing? You might know there's a Euthyphro's dilemma: "Is God good, because He is God, or God is good, because He does (produces) good?" I'd choose the 2nd, since each person if he wants to be good should do something useful not for himself only, and also for himself - to become better; and here I'd choose the 1st, because if a person stops working on himself he risks to become worse.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 14, 2023 21:31:49 GMT
As an atheist I have many friends that are Christians. They are comfortable with their religion, and I am comfortable around them. Those that know me, know that I am a genuinely good person. I don't belittle their beliefs unless they try to hold me to their dogmas. In fact, I work for the local Archdioceses. Since I am a semi-retired executive chef, I run all of the different food programs and work with the International kids from all over the world. I do my best to not get involved in religious discussions because that seldom works out in a good way. I live by the standard of, "You live your life, and I will live mine. If you don't like my beliefs, oh well, that's your problem not mine" Maybe we will be friends or maybe not, but I am not going to pretend to believe in something that I do not believe in. I have no problem in stating my beliefs if asked. I recognize that atheist are not trusted by many people, still not my problem. I will not lie to make others feel more comfortable about themselves. Cheers!
Sounds well in theory, but what is your take on using aborted fetuses as medicine? I don't mean then alleged efficacy thereof, but the ethics of it.
You see its all fine and well to live and let live, in normal social contexts that do not push our ethical boundaries, but assuming you are 'good', you should find the use of 'stem cell medicines' repugnant.
But what I am getting to is that your ethical instincts are likely rooted in the spiritual christian ethic which you take for granted. Like taboos against incest and rape, etc.
So what I am asking, is what reasons you can give for defending these values? Unless of course you do not.
Do you approve of enforced medication (aka euthanasia) which is the norm in atheist society?
That reminds me that they are working on switching to using period blood for stem cells
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 14, 2023 21:54:41 GMT
Sounds well in theory, but what is your take on using aborted fetuses as medicine? I don't mean then alleged efficacy thereof, but the ethics of it. If the abortions were done with permission by the mother, I have no problem with them being used to help others. Much like tissue, blood vessels, bones, and eyes are donated to help others.You see its all fine and well to live and let live, in normal social contexts that do not push our ethical boundaries, but assuming you are 'good', you should find the use of 'stem cell medicines' repugnant. This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I beg to defer. It is shameful to have a way to positively impact others and not do so. It beats throwing them in the trash. But what I am getting to is that your ethical instincts are likely rooted in the spiritual christian ethic which you take for granted. Like taboos against incest and rape, etc. Of course I have values that were influenced by Christian ethics, I was raised and indoctrinated in those beliefs from the moment of birth. I grew up in a Christian household in a Christian society.So what I am asking, is what reasons you can give for defending these values? Unless of course you do not. I don't support any ideas that make incest and rape right. Do you assume that I will defend these values because I am an atheist?Do you approve of enforced medication (aka euthanasia) which is the norm in atheist society? Euthanasia or Assisted Suicide? I full support a person that has run out of road with a serious disease or injury that will prevent them from ever regaining their quality of life. It is their right as a human being to determine their exit from this world. As for involuntary euthanasia, of course I am against that! I am not a monster!It's kinda hard to read when some text is bolded so much. None of societies are satisfied. There might be evil scientists, christian inquision, immoral kings, whatsoever. It might be that in one case a fetus is needed for science to find something really important - for the sake of humanity. But I can't say that this is a good tactic for humanity. I wish everyone lives happy and well, and there would be no wars, no crimes, etc. Is it possible? I guess, no. Precidely, I don't believe it's possible. This world seems to be devoured by darkness. Personally, I wouldn't count to live here happily, since I can't trust to this reality. Even if people were less rude, and more kind, disasters and plague could bring lots of troubles. However I don't refuse for some changes to occur. And usually when any changes occur it seems that it leads to the situation, wherre some wins, and some looses. No balance is there. If we can't make evil to vanish away, can we make this world to be less dangerous and less unpredictable? But living in societies (especially, cities-like) how can this be possible to achieve? Career, neighbours, resources, etc these and more are what people are still hunting for. I don't think such plague in a soul is greed has been won. No. One can expect from his own friend to be betrayed by him. You know, I don't think it's enough to be a believer. One can consider himself as a believer, but what's a big deal if he still does what he's always been doing? You might know there's a Euthyphro's dilemma: "Is God good, because He is God, or God is good, because He does (produces) good?" I'd choose the 2nd, since each person if he wants to be good should do something useful not for himself only, and also for himself - to become better; and here I'd choose the 1st, because if a person stops working on himself he risks to become worse. I was contemplating like I tend to always be doing when i have a moment or two and i was contemplating about hell because of a movie clip on youtube that i had seen where in hell was full of monsters and all that stereotypical scary stuff And I was thinking about the correlation between Heaven and Hell and Earth and how to me personally the Christian views are nonsensical and so what kind of hell would make more sense and i thought to myself and said It seems as if there is no limit to what man can accomplish given enough time I mean it just seems that mankind can do anything given enough time and effort and yet using the Christian model of hell not a single person has ever broken out and come back not one even with all the time that gas passed and nothing and yet just a if you had told somebody that we would fly and even go to the Moon they would have thought you were a crackpot and yes still not a single person has even temporarily broken out But what if hell isn't like the bible oh so vaguely mentions it to be? So then i thought earth, earth in a way its a perfect hell just think about it The earth seems to be the only planet with life on it Theres nowhere to go to Escape From Earth where there's life let alone where a human could even survive so we're stuck here surrounded by light years of lifeless Cosmos almost like a prison And were born with no memory so that we will create deep carrying bonds with things without hesitation because we don't have any negative memories of past life and by doing this it makes it hurt a hundred times worse when those bonds are broken to see if we had our memories from previous lives we would eventually get used to the fact that people come and go people die and it eventually wouldn't bother us anymore But because we're born without those memories it tears us apart every single time And it's inevitable you're born young you have your youth your health and despite what you do to avoid it your health is stripped from you slowly until you have no help at all and all your loved ones either you die before they do or they die before you do and you're forced to watch them leave forever and there's nothing you can do about it You have to watch your beautiful wife grow old , you have to watch your kids have their heart broken for the first time , you have to have your heart broken , This world is full of things that we fell we have to have and then we lose them every time over and over again. And when we think we have broken out of this hell we just got reborn fresh so that it will hurt just as bad as the last time we were here. THAT to me is what hell would be if i had to create a hell... I guess you got a glimpse into some of my odd and dark thoughts for a moment and probably a little semi off topic tangent but it jusy came across my mind so I figured I would spam everybody's brain for a moment with it
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 14, 2023 21:57:24 GMT
My phone's autocorrect is going to be the death of me
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 15, 2023 18:01:24 GMT
It's kinda hard to read when some text is bolded so much. None of societies are satisfied. There might be evil scientists, christian inquision, immoral kings, whatsoever. It might be that in one case a fetus is needed for science to find something really important - for the sake of humanity. But I can't say that this is a good tactic for humanity. I wish everyone lives happy and well, and there would be no wars, no crimes, etc. Is it possible? I guess, no. Precidely, I don't believe it's possible. This world seems to be devoured by darkness. Personally, I wouldn't count to live here happily, since I can't trust to this reality. Even if people were less rude, and more kind, disasters and plague could bring lots of troubles. However I don't refuse for some changes to occur. And usually when any changes occur it seems that it leads to the situation, wherre some wins, and some looses. No balance is there. If we can't make evil to vanish away, can we make this world to be less dangerous and less unpredictable? But living in societies (especially, cities-like) how can this be possible to achieve? Career, neighbours, resources, etc these and more are what people are still hunting for. I don't think such plague in a soul is greed has been won. No. One can expect from his own friend to be betrayed by him. You know, I don't think it's enough to be a believer. One can consider himself as a believer, but what's a big deal if he still does what he's always been doing? You might know there's a Euthyphro's dilemma: "Is God good, because He is God, or God is good, because He does (produces) good?" I'd choose the 2nd, since each person if he wants to be good should do something useful not for himself only, and also for himself - to become better; and here I'd choose the 1st, because if a person stops working on himself he risks to become worse. I was contemplating like I tend to always be doing when i have a moment or two and i was contemplating about hell because of a movie clip on youtube that i had seen where in hell was full of monsters and all that stereotypical scary stuff And I was thinking about the correlation between Heaven and Hell and Earth and how to me personally the Christian views are nonsensical and so what kind of hell would make more sense and i thought to myself and said It seems as if there is no limit to what man can accomplish given enough time I mean it just seems that mankind can do anything given enough time and effort and yet using the Christian model of hell not a single person has ever broken out and come back not one even with all the time that gas passed and nothing and yet just a if you had told somebody that we would fly and even go to the Moon they would have thought you were a crackpot and yes still not a single person has even temporarily broken out But what if hell isn't like the bible oh so vaguely mentions it to be? So then i thought earth, earth in a way its a perfect hell just think about it The earth seems to be the only planet with life on it Theres nowhere to go to Escape From Earth where there's life let alone where a human could even survive so we're stuck here surrounded by light years of lifeless Cosmos almost like a prison And were born with no memory so that we will create deep carrying bonds with things without hesitation because we don't have any negative memories of past life and by doing this it makes it hurt a hundred times worse when those bonds are broken to see if we had our memories from previous lives we would eventually get used to the fact that people come and go people die and it eventually wouldn't bother us anymore But because we're born without those memories it tears us apart every single time And it's inevitable you're born young you have your youth your health and despite what you do to avoid it your health is stripped from you slowly until you have no help at all and all your loved ones either you die before they do or they die before you do and you're forced to watch them leave forever and there's nothing you can do about it You have to watch your beautiful wife grow old , you have to watch your kids have their heart broken for the first time , you have to have your heart broken , This world is full of things that we fell we have to have and then we lose them every time over and over again. And when we think we have broken out of this hell we just got reborn fresh so that it will hurt just as bad as the last time we were here. THAT to me is what hell would be if i had to create a hell... I guess you got a glimpse into some of my odd and dark thoughts for a moment lol and probably a little semi off topic tangent but it jusy came across my mind so I figured I would spam everybody's brain for a moment with it lol .... I don't even know how to say it, because... reading you was like reading myself! I can't believe it.... Since I've been expressed so much, I take this time only one moment of your comment – perhaps the most congenial to my thoughts – it's about the Earth = the hell Yes. Well, I don't think I am able to think. It's not an irrelevant thought for me to think my thoughts smell like garbage, not because they really have this odour; no, because are my thoughts different? I am not sure. Sometimes all I want is to live without all those philosophies, people I met, etc. It's easy to say, but I'd prefer living somewhere over the hills. Somewhere far away of society. I don't even want Internet to have. I remember myself having no phone, and I felt well. I didn't have much troubles. Civilization doesn't mean all that stuff. Unless govt and many others joined Internet seriously, it was a nice cosy place. However, even without it there were no bad. And it's not because of my renegade-self or something; no, it's because many things in this life seem like unusual. I know enjoying life is limited. So, at least I am satisfied to have what I've already gotten. Actually, I don't like the life after 2011. That year was the last one I was indeed happy. Since 2012 things went not like previously. I'm glad to have 2006-2011 years in the past. That was me. Nobody is eternal. And who knows, maybe we live thousands of lives exactly as mortals – and this is hell. But for me it was super to have those years. Having them for me is the same as being lucky. I don't want to much, I was happy, that was good. (By the way, it sas not about love or kinda. No, it was some special feeling or something. Kinda hard to explain, but I got diaries (I've been writing there since 2008), and I wrote then that I was happy, and nothing good was expected after 2011. I felt it.) I guess to feel that special happiness even once in life means lots of. That is what keeps my heart warming. Anyway, this world might be totally a pure hell. So, if here is something that made me happy, then whatever this world would be, I just got what I (or whatever deity behind me) want.
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Post by Neuron420 on Aug 21, 2023 5:38:38 GMT
Sounds well in theory, but what is your take on using aborted fetuses as medicine? I don't mean then alleged efficacy thereof, but the ethics of it. If the abortions were done with permission by the mother, I have no problem with them being used to help others. Much like tissue, blood vessels, bones, and eyes are donated to help others.You see its all fine and well to live and let live, in normal social contexts that do not push our ethical boundaries, but assuming you are 'good', you should find the use of 'stem cell medicines' repugnant. This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I beg to defer. It is shameful to have a way to positively impact others and not do so. It beats throwing them in the trash. But what I am getting to is that your ethical instincts are likely rooted in the spiritual christian ethic which you take for granted. Like taboos against incest and rape, etc. Of course I have values that were influenced by Christian ethics, I was raised and indoctrinated in those beliefs from the moment of birth. I grew up in a Christian household in a Christian society.So what I am asking, is what reasons you can give for defending these values? Unless of course you do not. I don't support any ideas that make incest and rape right. Do you assume that I will defend these values because I am an atheist?Do you approve of enforced medication (aka euthanasia) which is the norm in atheist society? Euthanasia or Assisted Suicide? I full support a person that has run out of road with a serious disease or injury that will prevent them from ever regaining their quality of life. It is their right as a human being to determine their exit from this world. As for involuntary euthanasia, of course I am against that! I am not a monster!It's kinda hard to read when some text is bolded so much. None of societies are satisfied. There might be evil scientists, christian inquision, immoral kings, whatsoever. It might be that in one case a fetus is needed for science to find something really important - for the sake of humanity. But I can't say that this is a good tactic for humanity. I wish everyone lives happy and well, and there would be no wars, no crimes, etc. Is it possible? I guess, no. Precidely, I don't believe it's possible. This world seems to be devoured by darkness. Personally, I wouldn't count to live here happily, since I can't trust to this reality. Even if people were less rude, and more kind, disasters and plague could bring lots of troubles. However I don't refuse for some changes to occur. And usually when any changes occur it seems that it leads to the situation, wherre some wins, and some looses. No balance is there. If we can't make evil to vanish away, can we make this world to be less dangerous and less unpredictable? But living in societies (especially, cities-like) how can this be possible to achieve? Career, neighbours, resources, etc these and more are what people are still hunting for. I don't think such plague in a soul is greed has been won. No. One can expect from his own friend to be betrayed by him. You know, I don't think it's enough to be a believer. One can consider himself as a believer, but what's a big deal if he still does what he's always been doing? You might know there's a Euthyphro's dilemma: "Is God good, because He is God, or God is good, because He does (produces) good?" I'd choose the 2nd, since each person if he wants to be good should do something useful not for himself only, and also for himself - to become better; and here I'd choose the 1st, because if a person stops working on himself he risks to become worse. Yea, sorry about making the letters so big. I should have checked it before hitting post. Don't beat yourself up my friend. We all have self-doubt's and life is strange.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 21, 2023 12:22:07 GMT
It's kinda hard to read when some text is bolded so much. None of societies are satisfied. There might be evil scientists, christian inquision, immoral kings, whatsoever. It might be that in one case a fetus is needed for science to find something really important - for the sake of humanity. But I can't say that this is a good tactic for humanity. I wish everyone lives happy and well, and there would be no wars, no crimes, etc. Is it possible? I guess, no. Precidely, I don't believe it's possible. This world seems to be devoured by darkness. Personally, I wouldn't count to live here happily, since I can't trust to this reality. Even if people were less rude, and more kind, disasters and plague could bring lots of troubles. However I don't refuse for some changes to occur. And usually when any changes occur it seems that it leads to the situation, wherre some wins, and some looses. No balance is there. If we can't make evil to vanish away, can we make this world to be less dangerous and less unpredictable? But living in societies (especially, cities-like) how can this be possible to achieve? Career, neighbours, resources, etc these and more are what people are still hunting for. I don't think such plague in a soul is greed has been won. No. One can expect from his own friend to be betrayed by him. You know, I don't think it's enough to be a believer. One can consider himself as a believer, but what's a big deal if he still does what he's always been doing? You might know there's a Euthyphro's dilemma: "Is God good, because He is God, or God is good, because He does (produces) good?" I'd choose the 2nd, since each person if he wants to be good should do something useful not for himself only, and also for himself - to become better; and here I'd choose the 1st, because if a person stops working on himself he risks to become worse. Yea, sorry about making the letters so big. I should have checked it before hitting post. Don't beat yourself up my friend. We all have self-doubt's and life is strange. Oh, no, it's completely okay. The life is strange – definitely it is!
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