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Post by fschmidt on Oct 10, 2020 5:29:34 GMT
The most shocking thing about this presidential election is how unprepared conservatives are for a Biden victory. Today's Democratic Party combines with worst aspects of communism and nazism. Democrats are as hostile to small business as communists and as racist as nazis. And they are as intolerant of individual freedom as both. If Democrats take over the government, America will soon resemble the USSR and Nazi Germany. So anyone who values freedom should be thinking about where to flee to if Biden wins. I haven't done any actual research on where to move, but if Biden wins, the first thing I will do is to visit the Lake Chapala area in Mexico. It has a large expat community and is conveniently located an hour south of Guadalajara, so it seems like a place worth checking out. Mexico is one of the few countries that doesn't have any travel restrictions based on Covid lies. So what are your thoughts? If Biden wins, what will you do?
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 10, 2020 5:45:59 GMT
Yes, I heard there aren't any travel restrictions there and some other places don't have restrictions either so thankfully it's not the only one. How safe is Mexico though? I kept hearing of high crime rates and gangs ruling areas and if you don't do what they say they kill you. But back to main topic, I think if we look at the trend that Trump probably will win again. He may be disliked by some but they will still vote for him since he's the better alternative for him. He also has a lot of connections so he'd cheat to win even. I would be surprised if he gets defeated without pulling something from up his sleeve first. But what would I do if Biden actually wins? Well, I will have to wait a bit to see what will start happening. I already started thinking it was time to leave Califonia which was hard for me since I almost fear moving to unknown places. I still remember literally being dragged to America as a kid while crying my eyes out saying no!
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 10, 2020 5:53:13 GMT
I have no idea who will win, but I have learned to never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
The only way to judge a place is to visit. My impression is that some areas of Mexico are dangerous and some aren't, much like America. But I haven't been to Mexico for a few years.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 10, 2020 7:26:09 GMT
What I've learned is that no Americans are stupid. Many bad things can be said about anyone in any nation. It's not a good way either for any decision. Moreover, were there democrat presidents? Surely there were plenty. I think many would agree on politics of Andrew Jackson, Franklin Roosevelt, and John F. Kennedy. Anyway what barriers everyone from creating another wing? Just acclaim a couple of new wings for people to choose. Make people be closer to each other. Probably they'd start learning each others good habits. Humans are such primitive creatures, but they are perhaps one of the most rebel and nasty compared to the other species. Being friend to many is a possible projekt. When a disaster occurs any wars stop happening, the fear of disasters union people. But why such big cruel forces have to be what united people? To union there must be rational roots. All the people are made from one type of mud, from one planet here. Russell - Theologian's Nightmare
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 10, 2020 8:05:05 GMT
Things have changed. As you said, people are now zombies, and zombies are stupid. Democrats used to be fine. Now they are pure evil. When the Nazis came to power in Germany, and when the communists came to power in Russia, all other wings were shut down.
My ancestors made the mistake of staying in Europe when the Nazis came to power, and they suffered for making this mistake. I will not make the same mistake.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Oct 10, 2020 8:13:05 GMT
eugene Andrew Jackson was a Democrat when the Democrats were populist Southern conservatives. Andrew Jackson was more similar to Donald Trump than anything and this is shown by the fact that Donald Trump's constituents are the same Scots Irish Appalachian Americans that supported Jackson. There's a reason that Andrew Jackson's picture hangs in the oval office right now. Andrew Jackson has nothing to do with Kennedy or Roosevelt and way less to do with modern Democrats. As for Kennedy and Roosevelt, they were liberals but they were far less extreme than the Bolsheviks of today's Democratic party, they were anti-communists in fact. Today's Democrats are exactly as Fschmidt describes them Communist Nazis with their hated "Jew" race being white people. These people are absolutely dangerous. As for what I'll do about it if the Democrats come to power and try to set up their tyranny. I have known on some level that one day we may have to fight these people with bullets instead of words when they start getting tyrannical. I think that most conservative Americans have always known this too which is why they are buying guns at a record number. My father is a redneck gun nut and he tells me that these people collect guns for two reasons, one being an interest in firearms as a hobby, and the other because they are preparing to fight government tyranny from the left. If the left in this country were to go too far my family and I would all go to our redneck alligator hunting relatives in the country and prepare for war. Americans will not submit to tyranny without a fight. Thomas Jefferson said that the tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of tyrants and many tens of millions of Americans would all be happy to water that tree. Edit: Just so the government doesn't get on my arse I am not justifying violence or terrorism against political opponents. I am saying that if the government gets tyrannical Americans would have to take up arms against that tyrannical government. Obviously there should be no unprovoked, unlawful violence against political opponents who disagree with you. This is talking about taking up arms against true tyranny like the Nazis or the Bolsheviks in Russia which the far left would implement if given full power.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 10, 2020 9:12:13 GMT
fschmidt Surely, I could be wrong. It's not a good habit of mine to be so strictly straight. Unfortunately, some people aren't less dangerous, than the demon beasts. Nazis were like that. Some of my relatives died in the war against nazis and some were miraculously saved from the camps. Some said there were less insane nazis, especially at the end of the war, because their minds started being less blinded. Anyway, there's no need to vindicate their innocence. Well, I know it's kinda the hardest task over anything, and yet I can't escape thinking that there has to be ways to change people. Cause killing them or destroying towns and villages is definitely not a way. Probably, this idea - of how to change people to something better by convincing them or influencing on them somehow - is the most complicated, but if as default we usually agree on there are many problems in our life that are needed to be solved the problem of converting people to better is just one of them.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 10, 2020 9:43:16 GMT
eugene Andrew Jackson was a Democrat when the Democrats were populist Southern conservatives. Andrew Jackson was more similar to Donald Trump than anything and this is shown by the fact that Donald Trump's constituents are the same Scots Irish Appalachian Americans that supported Jackson. There's a reason that Andrew Jackson's picture hangs in the oval office right now. Andrew Jackson has nothing to do with Kennedy or Roosevelt and way less to do with modern Democrats. As for Kennedy and Roosevelt, they were liberals but they were far less extreme than the Bolsheviks of today's Democratic party, they were anti-communists in fact. Today's Democrats are exactly as Fschmidt describes them Communist Nazis with their hated "Jew" race being white people. These people are absolutely dangerous. As for what I'll do about it if the Democrats come to power and try to set up their tyranny. I have known on some level that one day we may have to fight these people with bullets instead of words when they start getting tyrannical. I think that most conservative Americans have always known this too which is why they are buying guns at a record number. My father is a redneck gun nut and he tells me that these people collect guns for two reasons, one being an interest in firearms as a hobby, and the other because they are preparing to fight government tyranny from the left. If the left in this country were to go too far my family and I would all go to our redneck alligator hunting relatives in the country and prepare for war. Americans will not submit to tyranny without a fight. Thomas Jefferson said that the tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of tyrants and many tens of millions of Americans would all be happy to water that tree. Edit: Just so the government doesn't get on my arse I am not justifying violence or terrorism against political opponents. I am saying that if the government gets tyrannical Americans would have to take up arms against that tyrannical government. Obviously there should be no unprovoked, unlawful violence against political opponents who disagree with you. This is talking about taking up arms against true tyranny like the Nazis or the Bolsheviks in Russia which the far left would implement if given full power. I see. Please, guys, don't get offended by my comments, because it's not a good thing of mine to speak about the current situation in US not being there and not knowing it from the inside. All I can say if that thise people as mad as Bolsheviks or Stalin they must be stopped. However, how to do it in a civilized manner if, for instance, George Soros said that no matter whether or not Trump is elected, his power will be off in November. (I didn't find the exact phrase of him, it was circularly repeated by many on some forums, and it was in his style, so even he was the one who said it, such a thought might have some true behind it.) Some says that 9/11 was a set for some reasons; for instance, there had been no such serious control in airports till 9/11. And similar thought make me think of that the accident to be set or, perhaps, played. You know like those fake revolutions in Venezuela or Cuba that happen as a sign of change one baron (boss) to another one. I know it's not the best way to accept conspiracy theories at first, because this may lead to confusions and wild ideas, but if do it less rigorous and rough, then to discover some other intentions like oil policies, trafficking weapons, etc won't be wrong. People at first closure are animals, and namely as animals (!) they tend to greed to power and so on. I don't agree with F. Fukuyama who taught about some virtues of greed and decency as the main ones in this world. He said people are needed to perform their true individual self, their ideals as their lifestyle for everyone to notice it. So, presumably, Fukuyama's was a development of Andy Warhol's "15 minutes of glory", to say that one needs the glory for much longer period. Anyway love and friendship as I do want to believe are not completely died. There were almost no perfectly stable period during the history when there were no wars... So, what's the big deal if we're suffering now? It has always been like that. I guess that the falling of USSR was the best event what might happen in XX, and what was the more important - it was broken with no blood - not as lady Macbeth with a mad thought of her hands were covered in unwashed blood stains. Anyway if to resist this new American Communism Ideology,then to do it as peaceful as possible.
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 12, 2020 18:38:43 GMT
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