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Post by dussias on Oct 3, 2020 15:42:01 GMT
Foreword about a War Room: Take a seat, close the door. In this thread, we talk about tactics and objectives. Each one should employ its real-world resources to shift the tide of battle in our favor.After delving on this forum's boards, I can conclude that most of us are on the same page regarding the war of ideas. Let us join or focused efforts. In this thread, let's discuss our methods of fighting the racist Marxist agenda that's threatening the entire world; and I mean to include the misuse of gender identity in that term. I will lay some general points. Feel free to criticize anything I say: - Any human is entitled to respect from its peers.
- Entitlement to respect ends when the subject steps over the line of personal freedom.
- Anything outside the boundaries of respect can be met with violent action.
Should non-binary genders be punished? No, but don't impose your way of thought on me. I respect you but you must also respect me. Should other races/immigrants be punished? No, but don't impose your way of thought on me. I respect you but you must also respect me.
And so on...
I think a decent primary objective would be to assert these points in every aspect of our life. This are times of uncertainty and of mistrust; people swear they're in control but in reality we're in the golden age of manipulation and disinformation.
That being said, I suggest as a method never failing to address these issues and being merciless in both our personal and societal lives regarding the laid precepts.
In short: Truth is debatable, but honesty and respect can always be asserted, and we should fight for these concepts.
What do you think?
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Post by dussias on Oct 9, 2020 2:27:12 GMT
How can we fight against this? I think their forces are much more stronger, than we can imagine. Except for the ways of really being together with this war I see no other real and effective reasons. Precisely what to do – is harder to answer, because of it depends on what situation we have. There were plenty of wars during the history, and tactics + strategy is quite similar from a war to another. Moral spirit and unitedness – I take as something that usually had been exploited or taken roughly, or even forgotten. Inner wishes and not-screwed representations which based on traditions, on our fathers and mothers beliefs – all of that is the true power that alone is really helpful. When an enemy wants to conquer us he wants to not only destroy us – it would be easier – but to steal our views, our faith, our glory, and the spirit. That's what I think. Moral spirit and union. This is why I'm opening the discussion and here's the response. Precisely what to do – is harder to answer, because of it depends on what situation we have: Exactly. Whatever we do on with our lives. they should help nurture the principles we deem best to fight the autocratic and leftist agenda. That's where the hard part comes in - where we must ask ourselves: "Am I doing my part in this war?"
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 9, 2020 5:47:51 GMT
God would be a creator of humans and all living things and all the abilities that they possess. So who gave them the process of thinking. He then would be in charge of thoughts or be above it since He's direct it to people and make sure that was ability they had. Dear Elizabeth, it appears you imply that God has a will. Does it make sense that "it" has a will? My perspective is that "it" keeps trying every possibility and it's up to each "attempt" to uphold its survival. That being said, I don't think we can attribute a "will" or a "purpose" to God. Maybe we can view the purpose as: "Try everything." Can a God not survive? I mean if a God always existed through time to create everything and is still creating...how can it cease to be? Does it have a mortal body like ours? If so how did it obtain abilities mortal bodies don't have?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 9, 2020 7:16:32 GMT
I think their forces are much more stronger, than we can imagine. Except for the ways of really being together with this war I see no other real and effective reasons. Precisely what to do – is harder to answer, because of it depends on what situation we have. There were plenty of wars during the history, and tactics + strategy is quite similar from a war to another. Moral spirit and unitedness – I take as something that usually had been exploited or taken roughly, or even forgotten. Inner wishes and not-screwed representations which based on traditions, on our fathers and mothers beliefs – all of that is the true power that alone is really helpful. When an enemy wants to conquer us he wants to not only destroy us – it would be easier – but to steal our views, our faith, our glory, and the spirit. That's what I think. Moral spirit and union. This is why I'm opening the discussion and here's the response. Precisely what to do – is harder to answer, because of it depends on what situation we have: Exactly. Whatever we do on with our lives. they should help nurture the principles we deem best to fight the autocratic and leftist agenda. That's where the hard part comes in - where we must ask ourselves: "Am I doing my part in this war?" Well, I don't think it's a war. Seems it always be it: rough and barbarian East against the West as civilization. I wouldn't call it wars for reasons. The place where I live, in Ukraine, the situation haven't changed much since the ancient times: Asian and Middle East tribes, nations, and cultures regularly raid on the lands, pockets, and bills. How the East elements do that: push their relatives to high-up of the govt or its core structures, and as for businesses structures they time-to-time terrify "non-obedient" businessmen. So, easily it's nothing, but mafia structures aka conspiracy elements. I don't get those who denies conspiracies. It's pretty natural to see how criminal elements might be organized (e.g. as the organized crime) and do their sneaky tricks. So, I am absolutely sure in that most of the time we want to see elephants where are just ants, and it happens because of our wish not to take into account plain, daily, common things. This time it could be just the high level of corruption or drug traffic, however we would like to search for UFO's and the action of the demonic forces. That's why the conspirators are just ordinary crooks whose predecessors were hypocritical and pathetical liars, traitors, dishonest, inhuman and immortal persons. And for me to be such persons is to violate Christs rules or to not recognise Christ as Messiah. Even if a person is not Christian, yet one does what Pharisees do or one continues their activities, the one - no matter how talented it may appear - is just the real parasite and he cannot be trusted, also he and his relatives' activities must be always under the supervision. We have to take the conrol over the parasites to stop the parasites terrorise us. About: "Asking oneself what did I do?" – nothing. Unfortunately, I did not even a thing for this. So, all what I can say is that I'm not better, than a parasite till I haven't done something. As the movie rightly said: "We sleep. They live. ... It's time to wake this world up!".
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Oct 9, 2020 7:57:38 GMT
@dussias So this racial and gender identity politics has infected Latin America as well? This surprises me. As someone who's been to Latin America before I would think y'all would have more important things to worry about. But then the country I was in was run by a communist Sandinista. Still, I would think that your Marxism would be more of the traditional class war kind rather than the cultural Marxist identitarian kind.
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Post by dussias on Oct 9, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
Can a God not survive? I mean if a God always existed through time to create everything and is still creating...how can it cease to be? Does it have a mortal body like ours? If so how did it obtain abilities mortal bodies don't have? Creating, having a body, abilities -- all of these imply that we can conceive God. To me, it only makes sense that God doesn't fit any of our conceptions. What sense would it make that we can imagine "that" which is eternally more complex and vast than any of our ideas? Even talking about "it," trying to name "it" or point in "its" direction is enough to lose the argument. "That," to me, is like a fish in a pond. The water is reality, and although we can suspect that in a pond there may be a fish, consciousness, which would be our harpoon, won't ever come close to hitting the fish. We don't even know if the fish is in the pond, or even if there's a fish or a pond for that matter. We tell ourselves that "at least there must be a pond," and religion tells us that "the fish is called so and so, and this is how to catch it," but can we actually be sure?
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Post by dussias on Oct 9, 2020 21:34:32 GMT
Well, I don't think it's a war. Seems it always be it: rough and barbarian East against the West as civilization. I wouldn't call it wars for reasons. The place where I live, in Ukraine, the situation haven't changed much since the ancient times: Asian and Middle East tribes, nations, and cultures regularly raid on the lands, pockets, and bills. How the East elements do that: push their relatives to high-up of the govt or its core structures, and as for businesses structures they time-to-time terrify "non-obedient" businessmen. So, easily it's nothing, but mafia structures aka conspiracy elements. I don't get those who denies conspiracies. It's pretty natural to see how criminal elements might be organized (e.g. as the organized crime) and do their sneaky tricks. So, I am absolutely sure in that most of the time we want to see elephants where are just ants, and it happens because of our wish not to take into account plain, daily, common things. This time it could be just the high level of corruption or drug traffic, however we would like to search for UFO's and the action of the demonic forces. That's why the conspirators are just ordinary crooks whose predecessors were hypocritical and pathetical liars, traitors, dishonest, inhuman and immortal persons. And for me to be such persons is to violate Christs rules or to not recognise Christ as Messiah. Even if a person is not Christian, yet one does what Pharisees do or one continues their activities, the one - no matter how talented it may appear - is just the real parasite and he cannot be trusted, also he and his relatives' activities must be always under the supervision. We have to take the conrol over the parasites to stop the parasites terrorise us. About: "Asking oneself what did I do?" – nothing. Unfortunately, I did not even a thing for this. So, all what I can say is that I'm not better, than a parasite till I haven't done something. As the movie rightly said: "We sleep. They live. ... It's time to wake this world up!". I see your point, but I want to believe a healthy balance can be achieved. And while most of us aren't oligarchs or conspirators, I believe it's our duty to fill our every day acts with a higher purpose, oriented towards freedom and respect.
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Post by dussias on Oct 9, 2020 21:38:40 GMT
@dussias So this racial and gender identity politics has infected Latin America as well? This surprises me. As someone who's been to Latin America before I would think y'all would have more important things to worry about. But then the country I was in was run by a communist Sandinista. Still, I would think that your Marxism would be more of the traditional class war kind rather than the cultural Marxist identitarian kind. It has its facets on each country. Argentina, for example, is a boiling pot of gender identity pretexts. Venezuela, the place I reside in, is no longer a country, but a territory sequestered by terrorists and drug dealers -- the dream of Pablo Escobar and Al Capone. And while I agree that there are "more important things to worry about," the issue is that Marxism pragmatically employs its toxic and mind-numbing rhetoric to disintegrate culture. According to them, anything goes, as long as it works to take power by force and help their accomplices.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 9, 2020 22:05:57 GMT
Well, I don't think it's a war. Seems it always be it: rough and barbarian East against the West as civilization. I wouldn't call it wars for reasons. The place where I live, in Ukraine, the situation haven't changed much since the ancient times: Asian and Middle East tribes, nations, and cultures regularly raid on the lands, pockets, and bills. How the East elements do that: push their relatives to high-up of the govt or its core structures, and as for businesses structures they time-to-time terrify "non-obedient" businessmen. So, easily it's nothing, but mafia structures aka conspiracy elements. I don't get those who denies conspiracies. It's pretty natural to see how criminal elements might be organized (e.g. as the organized crime) and do their sneaky tricks. So, I am absolutely sure in that most of the time we want to see elephants where are just ants, and it happens because of our wish not to take into account plain, daily, common things. This time it could be just the high level of corruption or drug traffic, however we would like to search for UFO's and the action of the demonic forces. That's why the conspirators are just ordinary crooks whose predecessors were hypocritical and pathetical liars, traitors, dishonest, inhuman and immortal persons. And for me to be such persons is to violate Christs rules or to not recognise Christ as Messiah. Even if a person is not Christian, yet one does what Pharisees do or one continues their activities, the one - no matter how talented it may appear - is just the real parasite and he cannot be trusted, also he and his relatives' activities must be always under the supervision. We have to take the conrol over the parasites to stop the parasites terrorise us. About: "Asking oneself what did I do?" – nothing. Unfortunately, I did not even a thing for this. So, all what I can say is that I'm not better, than a parasite till I haven't done something. As the movie rightly said: "We sleep. They live. ... It's time to wake this world up!". I see your point, but I want to believe a healthy balance can be achieved. And while most of us aren't oligarchs or conspirators, I believe it's our duty to fill our every day acts with a higher purpose, oriented towards freedom and respect. Certainly, it's the choice of you and your compatriots. Anyway, it's pretty weird to hear such optimistic words living in a zombie epoch. There's no humans left; why so bother?
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 10, 2020 5:46:59 GMT
Venezuela, the place I reside in, is no longer a country, but a territory sequestered by terrorists and drug dealers -- the dream of Pablo Escobar and Al Capone. Why do you stay in Venezuela? Why not leave?
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Post by dussias on Oct 10, 2020 15:13:58 GMT
Venezuela, the place I reside in, is no longer a country, but a territory sequestered by terrorists and drug dealers -- the dream of Pablo Escobar and Al Capone. Why do you stay in Venezuela? Why not leave? I had to finish my degree in engineering and wait for a medical situation to finish. My immediate priority is to leave. But there are no international commercial flights (for now), renewing a passport is almost impossible if you don't pay a bribe and still I'd need to certify my papers, which is also damn difficult due to the corruption, laziness and ill-intent of the cultural debacle we live in.
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Post by dussias on Oct 10, 2020 15:15:17 GMT
I see your point, but I want to believe a healthy balance can be achieved. And while most of us aren't oligarchs or conspirators, I believe it's our duty to fill our every day acts with a higher purpose, oriented towards freedom and respect. Certainly, it's the choice of you and your compatriots. Anyway, it's pretty weird to hear such optimistic words living in a zombie epoch. There's no humans left; why so bother? I think I'm too stubborn to go down without a fight.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 10, 2020 18:20:40 GMT
Certainly, it's the choice of you and your compatriots. Anyway, it's pretty weird to hear such optimistic words living in a zombie epoch. There's no humans left; why so bother? I think I'm too stubborn to go down without a fight. Sometimes the good must be with bare knuckles.
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Post by Polaris on Nov 30, 2020 1:56:14 GMT
Dear Elizabeth, it appears you imply that God has a will. Does it make sense that "it" has a will? My perspective is that "it" keeps trying every possibility and it's up to each "attempt" to uphold its survival. That being said, I don't think we can attribute a "will" or a "purpose" to God. Maybe we can view the purpose as: "Try everything." Can a God not survive? I mean if a God always existed through time to create everything and is still creating...how can it cease to be? Does it have a mortal body like ours? If so how did it obtain abilities mortal bodies don't have? For me as a believer, since God has created man's mind, it is very sensible and logical that the created cannot encapsulate its creator>
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