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Post by dussias on Oct 3, 2020 15:42:01 GMT
Foreword about a War Room: Take a seat, close the door. In this thread, we talk about tactics and objectives. Each one should employ its real-world resources to shift the tide of battle in our favor.After delving on this forum's boards, I can conclude that most of us are on the same page regarding the war of ideas. Let us join or focused efforts. In this thread, let's discuss our methods of fighting the racist Marxist agenda that's threatening the entire world; and I mean to include the misuse of gender identity in that term. I will lay some general points. Feel free to criticize anything I say: - Any human is entitled to respect from its peers.
- Entitlement to respect ends when the subject steps over the line of personal freedom.
- Anything outside the boundaries of respect can be met with violent action.
Should non-binary genders be punished? No, but don't impose your way of thought on me. I respect you but you must also respect me. Should other races/immigrants be punished? No, but don't impose your way of thought on me. I respect you but you must also respect me.
And so on...
I think a decent primary objective would be to assert these points in every aspect of our life. This are times of uncertainty and of mistrust; people swear they're in control but in reality we're in the golden age of manipulation and disinformation.
That being said, I suggest as a method never failing to address these issues and being merciless in both our personal and societal lives regarding the laid precepts.
In short: Truth is debatable, but honesty and respect can always be asserted, and we should fight for these concepts.
What do you think?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 3, 2020 16:00:02 GMT
Marxism, and more precisely the new leftists, long before that had criticized metanarratives, history, etc. I guess they're responsible (at least partially) for decreasing of (human) values. Now they are trying to argue just like these values has never been spoiled and ruined. I don't know to what they may lead us?
Misinformation - and trying to be more detailed, another ideologization - is great and such sponsors of it as G. Soros are responsible for leftism agenda majorly.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 3, 2020 16:49:24 GMT
I guess you are right here. However, one does not have a choice in choosing their race so that is nothing that can be allowed to be used against a person. We are not in charge of genetics, it's in charge of us. But people who have trouble with that try to choose their genders even though their body will forever function as what genetics designed it to me to matter what. It's not like an xy will suddenly be able to give birth if he thinks he's female. That's just plain wishful thinking. So, these guys should still be treated as human beings because they are human begins but they need from health agencies on how life works. Biology courses will not be helpful for everyone.
But can you give me an example of how truth can be debatable? I can think of two things you can mean and one I totally agree with.
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 3, 2020 18:04:18 GMT
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Post by dussias on Oct 4, 2020 20:52:07 GMT
Marxism, and more precisely the new leftists, long before that had criticized metanarratives, history, etc. I guess they're responsible (at least partially) for decreasing of (human) values. Now they are trying to argue just like these values has never been spoiled and ruined. I don't know to what they may lead us? Misinformation - and trying to be more detailed, another ideologization - is great and such sponsors of it as G. Soros are responsible for leftism agenda majorly. How can we fight against this?
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Post by dussias on Oct 4, 2020 20:58:53 GMT
I guess you are right here. However, one does not have a choice in choosing their race so that is nothing that can be allowed to be used against a person. We are not in charge of genetics, it's in charge of us. But people who have trouble with that try to choose their genders even though their body will forever function as what genetics designed it to me to matter what. It's not like an xy will suddenly be able to give birth if he thinks he's female. That's just plain wishful thinking. So, these guys should still be treated as human beings because they are human begins but they need from health agencies on how life works. Biology courses will not be helpful for everyone. But can you give me an example of how truth can be debatable? I can think of two things you can mean and one I totally agree with. Dear Elizabeth, I believe that Kant found the limits of thinking and determined that nothing we come up with encapsulates the true nature of something; anything that can be is bound to our perception and way of thinking. This implies that, to our extent, "truth" always has flaws and undefined spaces that can be pointed at, so they allow questioning or debate. Now, my idea is that truth is an illusion, but I'd have to touch on that matter on a different thread.
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Post by dussias on Oct 4, 2020 21:07:24 GMT
That's an interesting read... You've made me think a lot. First of all, I suggest dropping the profanity, such as saying "cuckservatives," you aim at some very interesting points but calling out names is more distracting than informative. If you dropped this rhetoric, I'd listen to a podcast hosted by you. Now, are you sure that "copying" the Left is the right thing? Shouldn't we try to get ahead? In any case, I think that saying "the Left" is not accurate because there are many interests that propel agendas who simply don't care who's on which side; they only want to see positive outcomes from their investments. I feel that imitating their practices would only lessen the virtue of our struggle. I understand that everything goes, but I don't know... we'd need some guiding principles or objectives to not "get carried away." Am I being clear enough? On a more concise perspective; what would you suggest would be a good place to start for non-politicians? What values should we spread among the "general" population?
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 4, 2020 21:14:44 GMT
I guess you are right here. However, one does not have a choice in choosing their race so that is nothing that can be allowed to be used against a person. We are not in charge of genetics, it's in charge of us. But people who have trouble with that try to choose their genders even though their body will forever function as what genetics designed it to me to matter what. It's not like an xy will suddenly be able to give birth if he thinks he's female. That's just plain wishful thinking. So, these guys should still be treated as human beings because they are human begins but they need from health agencies on how life works. Biology courses will not be helpful for everyone. But can you give me an example of how truth can be debatable? I can think of two things you can mean and one I totally agree with. Dear Elizabeth, I believe that Kant found the limits of thinking and determined that nothing we come up with encapsulates the true nature of something; anything that can be is bound to our perception and way of thinking. This implies that, to our extent, "truth" always has flaws and undefined spaces that can be pointed at, so they allow questioning or debate. Now, my idea is that truth is an illusion, but I'd have to touch on that matter on a different thread. Do you think he came up with there being limits to thinking because we are humans and humans have limits in life or that it applies to anything and everything, even like unto a God. Would God have limits of thinking?
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Post by dussias on Oct 4, 2020 22:44:27 GMT
Do you think he came up with there being limits to thinking because we are humans and humans have limits in life or that it applies to anything and everything, even like unto a God. Would God have limits of thinking? I think that it applies to everything. Regarding God, I'd have to ask you what do you mean by God.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 4, 2020 23:00:04 GMT
Do you think he came up with there being limits to thinking because we are humans and humans have limits in life or that it applies to anything and everything, even like unto a God. Would God have limits of thinking? I think that it applies to everything. Regarding God, I'd have to ask you what do you mean by God. God would be a creator of humans and all living things and all the abilities that they possess. So who gave them the process of thinking. He then would be in charge of thoughts or be above it since He's direct it to people and make sure that was ability they had.
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 4, 2020 23:32:17 GMT
That's an interesting read... You've made me think a lot. Thanks, my writing isn't very popular. I have given up on the idea that my writing can influence others, so I basically write for myself. Just copy what makes sense. The Right can get ahead just by surviving because the Left will self-destruct. This is too complicated to answer in a short comment. But broadly there are 2 basic sides right now regardless of the motives of the various players. I addressed this in my paragraph containing "the moral question". Basically the Right does understand the idea of citizen versus alien. The Right needs to stop thinking in terms of the USA which is a dead concept. The Right needs a new concept of citizen based on Right values, and then the virtue is the struggle for the benefit of these citizens. The rights of these citizens must be protected. The rights of aliens isn't our concern. The first step is to move to a place like North Idaho. Most of American is enemy territory and is lost. Once one is in a good area, one should work strengthen it. The 3 core elements to work on are politics, education, and religion.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 5, 2020 4:10:16 GMT
Marxism, and more precisely the new leftists, long before that had criticized metanarratives, history, etc. I guess they're responsible (at least partially) for decreasing of (human) values. Now they are trying to argue just like these values has never been spoiled and ruined. I don't know to what they may lead us? Misinformation - and trying to be more detailed, another ideologization - is great and such sponsors of it as G. Soros are responsible for leftism agenda majorly. How can we fight against this? I think their forces are much more stronger, than we can imagine. Except for the ways of really being together with this war I see no other real and effective reasons. Precisely what to do – is harder to answer, because of it depends on what situation we have. There were plenty of wars during the history, and tactics + strategy is quite similar from a war to another. Moral spirit and unitedness – I take as something that usually had been exploited or taken roughly, or even forgotten. Inner wishes and not-screwed representations which based on traditions, on our fathers and mothers beliefs – all of that is the true power that alone is really helpful. When an enemy wants to conquer us he wants to not only destroy us – it would be easier – but to steal our views, our faith, our glory, and the spirit. That's what I think.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 5, 2020 11:25:30 GMT
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Post by dussias on Oct 9, 2020 2:20:20 GMT
I think that it applies to everything. Regarding God, I'd have to ask you what do you mean by God. God would be a creator of humans and all living things and all the abilities that they possess. So who gave them the process of thinking. He then would be in charge of thoughts or be above it since He's direct it to people and make sure that was ability they had. Dear Elizabeth, it appears you imply that God has a will. Does it make sense that "it" has a will? My perspective is that "it" keeps trying every possibility and it's up to each "attempt" to uphold its survival. That being said, I don't think we can attribute a "will" or a "purpose" to God. Maybe we can view the purpose as: "Try everything."
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Post by dussias on Oct 9, 2020 2:23:59 GMT
Just copy what makes sense. The Right can get ahead just by surviving because the Left will self-destruct. I sure hope you're right. Unless the U.S. goes balls to the wall and Europe grows a pair, things will keep getting exponentially worse in Latin America, which is where I reside. I addressed this in my paragraph containing "the moral question". Basically the Right does understand the idea of citizen versus alien. The Right needs to stop thinking in terms of the USA which is a dead concept. The Right needs a new concept of citizen based on Right values, and then the virtue is the struggle for the benefit of these citizens. The rights of these citizens must be protected. The rights of aliens isn't our concern. I agree completely, although I can see the difficulty in nurturing this way of thought. The 3 core elements to work on are politics, education, and religion. Noted!
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