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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 25, 2020 3:22:51 GMT
What exactly did God have in mind when creating a human? Who meet that design plan? I rather not list bible verses yet but just start the discussion first.
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iaminyou
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Post by iaminyou on Sept 30, 2020 20:55:40 GMT
As Satan [The Ugaritic Satana-El is a person, a son of the Arabic God (EL)], you are personifying misleading information with Satan, the one who tempted Eve, Jesus, and others. . So, you explain the fact that adorable YOU is not understood by many people, as your being the image and voice of the Creator, by introducing Satan. To use the theatrical language,since I dealt with Shakespeare, your Satan is a "deus ex machina". Well, did Shakespeare himself intoduce, in his play, Hamlet's attractive mother in order to explain her son's troubled mind? I should expand my story, which envisions a life parallel to yours. Who is the deus ex machina in your mind? Satan, the Devil, Lucifer, Serpent, etc. are just names of information that is processed by the Word of God which is what I AM, the IMAGE and VOICE of our Creator. All the visible images you observe that are not built with human hands are of Satan including the visible flesh of MAN. All the images that human hands built out of earthen materials including all the languages that go with those images and mathematics for measuring those human built things and everything else that first formed in the MIND that is brought into this visible world for all to see comes from the Beast. This is just knowledge that obviously you either were not chosen to believe in or you cannot understand it. |
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Post by joustos on Sept 30, 2020 23:16:00 GMT
I am glad I was not chosen to believe all this nonsense and to be a Manichean, wherefore I am not waiting for the day when my spirit or self will be freed from the evil matter. I love the material world. Incidentally, Lucifer (The Light-Bearer) is not Satan. That is the name of Venus (the morning star), or the epithet of Phosphorous (light-bearing) Hekate who, mythologically speaking, shows Persephone the way out of the dark Underworld to the upper World, where she is Demeter's daughter, Kore, the divine/immortal maiden, the regenerated grain plant from which we make bread. (In the ancient Eleusinian Mystery or Rite, as in the later Christian Eucharistic Rite, bread and wine (the blood of immortal Dionysos) are ingested so as to inherit immortality. (… But I have not been dermined to believe this either.)
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The Cathar
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Post by The Cathar on Oct 28, 2020 21:59:23 GMT
In my view, we are not a product of God- rather, we are simply creatures (a product of evolution) picked by Satan to be his servants. A spirit was placed within us to make us 'work' and voila! the first Humans were created. But it's not all bad- Satan had been tricked by the Archangels into thinking that putting a spirit in us would make us controllable- but they didn't tell him that this would also make it possible for us to learn of our spiritual nature and have a way to escape his grasp and return to God's presence.
That being said, Man didn't- in my view- simply appear as Modern Man in a flash of light. Think of it rather like the scene in the film '2001: A Space Odyssey' in which the pre-human creatures first touch the Monolith and gain Knowledge. They didn't just instantly transform into Man, but rather their evolution continued with that inner spirit working on them to help them on the way.
Note that this quick and dirty view is colored with a healthy dose of Gnostic thought, so your mileage may vary.
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