lorac
Full Member
Posts: 214
Likes: 141
|
Post by lorac on Sept 21, 2020 9:59:37 GMT
Persecuted throughout History before and during the 17th Century, fleeing mainly from France the Huguenots fled to many countries. South Africa, America, Australia, Germany, Holland, Russia to name a few. For the most part, Huguenots worldwide have successfully assimilated into the mainstream culture of whichever country they settled in, and many—if they follow any religion—practice a form of the Protestant religion for which they were originally persecuted About one-fifth of the Huguenot population ended up in England, with a smaller portion moving to Ireland. The Huguenots are credited with bringing the word “refugee” into the English language upon their arrival in the British Islands when it was first used to describe them. www.history.com/topics/france/huguenots
|
|
|
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 21, 2020 13:40:36 GMT
What made them flew away? I wonder wasn't it the revolution of 1789 that made their lives not very welcome there, in France?
|
|
lorac
Full Member
Posts: 214
Likes: 141
|
Post by lorac on Sept 22, 2020 8:23:14 GMT
What made them flew away? I wonder wasn't it the revolution of 1789 that made their lives not very welcome there, in France? Well before that, but there was no love for them in France, don't forget France was the majority Catholic. Anyways in a nutshell I have outlined a summary from the WWW address from above. In the Massacre of Vassy April 1562, Protestants took control of Orleans France and massacred Huguenots in Sens and Tours. In Toulouse, a riot resulted in the deaths of up to 3,000 people, many of them Huguenots. The battling continued into February of 1563 when Francis, Duke of Guise, was assassinated by a Huguenot during a siege on Orleans and a truce was agreed upon. The next massacre on St. Bartholomew’s Day was in 1572 and saw 70,000 murders. Catholic citizens formed militia groups that hunted down Huguenot citizens, indulging not only in murder but gruesome torture, mutilation, and desecration of the dead. Leading to the first wave of Huguenot departures from France to England, Germany, and the Netherlands. The Edict of Nantes 1598 ended the Civil War and Peace reigned for a while. In 1643 Louis X1V once more began a persecution on the Huguenots. In 1685 he enacted the Edict of Fontainebleau, which made Protestantism illegal. Convert to Catholicism or die thus more than 200,000 Huguenots fled France. Just over the border in Italy, French troops ravaged the Protestant villages, with 12,000 Protestants rounded up into camps, where most starved to death. The few that did survive were sent to Germany. The departure of the Huguenots was a disaster for France, costing the nation much of its cultural and economic influence. The Huguenots had many transferable skills so many countries welcomed them believing that the influx of skilled, literate workers could help them revive their economies. The British were not friendly with French King Louis XIV, so Huguenots were welcomed there. In South Africa with monetary help from the Dutch East India Company a few settlers stayed but after The Edict of Fontainbleau a few hundred took up the offer to re settle and started winemaking. In America, some Huguenots had emigrated far earlier 1555 and 1564 than the mass movement in the 17th century, but many met with misfortune. In 1624, Huguenots began to arrive en masse in New York and the New Jersey areas. In 1628, some moved into what would become Bushwick, Brooklyn. Others moved to New Rochelle, New Paltz, New York, as well as Staten Island. By the time of the exodus beginning in 1685, Huguenot communities sprang up in other areas. Often, the Huguenot settlers would assimilate with existing Protestant groups. George Washington was descended from a Huguenot.
|
|
|
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 22, 2020 13:16:46 GMT
Mama mia, it was the real genocide, we must taboo Catholicism.
Any organizations or institutions which are engaged in human massacres that are set by one of worldview criteria is subjected to shutdown. Briefly, Catholicism = Fascism.
|
|
lorac
Full Member
Posts: 214
Likes: 141
|
Post by lorac on Sept 22, 2020 17:29:59 GMT
Mama mia, it was the real genocide, we must taboo Catholicism. Any organizations or institutions which are engaged in human massacres that are set by one of worldview criteria is subjected to shutdown. Briefly, Catholicism = Fascism. Are you saying you are going to shut me down/does that mean a ban?? I have only stated facts, I believe all religions should be respected. We live in the 21st century not the Dark Ages when Land Power Religion Fighting went hand in hand. Catholicism does not equate to Fascism, in fact if it wasn't for good old Henry the 8th England might still have been Catholic. ps. my ancestors were Huguenots thus my interest in this subject.
|
|
|
Post by Elizabeth on Sept 22, 2020 17:35:02 GMT
Mama mia, it was the real genocide, we must taboo Catholicism. Any organizations or institutions which are engaged in human massacres that are set by one of worldview criteria is subjected to shutdown. Briefly, Catholicism = Fascism. Are you saying you are going to shut me down/does that mean a ban?? I have only stated facts, I believe all religions should be respected. We live in the 21st century not the Dark Ages when Land Power Religion Fighting went hand in hand. Catholicism does not equate to Fascism, in fact if it wasn't for good old Henry the 8th England might still have been Catholic. ps. my ancestors were Huguenots thus my interest in this subject. No! He doesn't mean a ban. You're fine. I think he means the same thing that made me freak out where it said "convert to Catholicism or die." Yikes. All the massacres in history make me sad no matter who started them. :(
|
|
lorac
Full Member
Posts: 214
Likes: 141
|
Post by lorac on Sept 22, 2020 17:48:00 GMT
Are you saying you are going to shut me down/does that mean a ban?? I have only stated facts, I believe all religions should be respected. We live in the 21st century not the Dark Ages when Land Power Religion Fighting went hand in hand. Catholicism does not equate to Fascism, in fact if it wasn't for good old Henry the 8th England might still have been Catholic. ps. my ancestors were Huguenots thus my interest in this subject. No! He doesn't mean a ban. You're fine. I think he means the same thing that made me freak out where it said "convert to Catholicism or die." Yikes. All the massacres in history make me sad no matter who started them. :( OK thanks, quite agree too many religious massacres in our short time on Earth
|
|
|
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 22, 2020 18:21:28 GMT
Mama mia, it was the real genocide, we must taboo Catholicism. Any organizations or institutions which are engaged in human massacres that are set by one of worldview criteria is subjected to shutdown. Briefly, Catholicism = Fascism. Are you saying you are going to shut me down/does that mean a ban?? I have only stated facts, I believe all religions should be respected. We live in the 21st century not the Dark Ages when Land Power Religion Fighting went hand in hand. Catholicism does not equate to Fascism, in fact if it wasn't for good old Henry the 8th England might still have been Catholic. ps. my ancestors were Huguenots thus my interest in this subject. Oh my Go, surely no! I add to Elizabeth's opinion, she interpreted my words even better than I told.
|
|
lorac
Full Member
Posts: 214
Likes: 141
|
Post by lorac on Sept 22, 2020 20:43:43 GMT
Are you saying you are going to shut me down/does that mean a ban?? I have only stated facts, I believe all religions should be respected. We live in the 21st century not the Dark Ages when Land Power Religion Fighting went hand in hand. Catholicism does not equate to Fascism, in fact if it wasn't for good old Henry the 8th England might still have been Catholic. ps. my ancestors were Huguenots thus my interest in this subject. Oh my Go, surely no! I add to Elizabeth's opinion, she interpreted my words even better than I told. eugene all forgiven. It needs Elizabeth to translate for both of us.
|
|
|
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 23, 2020 5:16:37 GMT
Oh my Go, surely no! I add to Elizabeth's opinion, she interpreted my words even better than I told. eugene Happy Dance all forgiven. It needs Elizabeth to translate for both of us. ;) Y You're right! Elizabeth is like an angel (that's why the angel portraits in her avatar), and with her charm and the spirit of will she has saved the forum inhabitants' friendship and warm relations not once. Please, do not get offended, I didn't mean anything evil.
|
|
|
Post by jonbain on Sept 27, 2020 10:01:43 GMT
The protestant/catholic distinction aside, I had a history teacher who was Huguenot, and she was the most tyrannical racist psychopath that ever pretended to be a teacher. When she nagged on about the Huguenots being 'persecuted' I could only see how they likely deserved it.
|
|
|
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 27, 2020 10:43:17 GMT
The protestant/catholic distinction aside, I had a history teacher who was Huguenot, and she was the most tyrannical racist psychopath that ever pretended to be a teacher. When she nagged on about the Huguenots being 'persecuted' I could only see how they likely deserved it. But it could be a reason, not cause of her insanity. I mean being persecuted they had become quite insane. Most of post-totalitarian Slavs have become mad because of all those 'persecutions' and 'treatments'. Traces of the terrible regimes curve on people's sanity.
|
|
Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,693
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
|
Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 28, 2020 2:37:12 GMT
French Huguenots migrated in very large numbers to Charleston South Carolina and the rest of the Lowcountry during the colonial period. There is a Huguenot church in the city and one of our political families, the Ravenels, are of Huguenot descent. Arthur Ravenel, the "patriarch" of the Ravenel family so to speak, will always be remembered for a hilarious incident he had regarding the NAACP.
He called the NAACP the National Association for the Advancement of Retarded People. The NAACP then demanded an apology so he decided to apologize. When he got up to the podium on live TV to apologize, he proceeded to say in his thick Charleston Southern accent, "I apologize to ya'll retarded people for comparing you to the NAACP." Everyone sitting at home was laughing their arse off. The nice bridge leading into Charleston is named after Arthur Ravenel.
|
|
|
Post by jonbain on Oct 19, 2020 9:59:06 GMT
The protestant/catholic distinction aside, I had a history teacher who was Huguenot, and she was the most tyrannical racist psychopath that ever pretended to be a teacher. When she nagged on about the Huguenots being 'persecuted' I could only see how they likely deserved it. But it could be a reason, not cause of her insanity. I mean being persecuted they had become quite insane. Most of post-totalitarian Slavs have become mad because of all those 'persecutions' and 'treatments'. Traces of the terrible regimes curve on people's sanity. That is possible, and probably true to some extent. But when people decide to give up on a beautiful language like French, with all its liberal traditions, regardless of how less those clearly were in the past,
and instead adopt a really ugly language like Afrikaans, a culture based intrinsically on ritualized child-abuse and racist genocidal indoctrination,
and they then pursue any vendetta they can over numerous centuries and generations against everyone who is not subservient to their tyranny, well then, I'm gonna reach the conclusion that the underlying malady is in fact the ritualized child abuse - which instills lying as a means to an end, and even masks worse problems like incestuous homosexual rape which are endemic.
|
|
|
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 19, 2020 11:46:02 GMT
But it could be a reason, not cause of her insanity. I mean being persecuted they had become quite insane. Most of post-totalitarian Slavs have become mad because of all those 'persecutions' and 'treatments'. Traces of the terrible regimes curve on people's sanity. That is possible, and probably true to some extent. But when people decide to give up on a beautiful language like French, with all its liberal traditions, regardless of how less those clearly were in the past,
and instead adopt a really ugly language like Afrikaans, a culture based intrinsically on ritualized child-abuse and racist genocidal indoctrination,
and they then pursue any vendetta they can over numerous centuries and generations against everyone who is not subservient to their tyranny, well then, I'm gonna reach the conclusion that the underlying malady is in fact the ritualized child abuse - which instills lying as a means to an end, and even masks worse problems like incestuous homosexual rape which are endemic. Do agree with you. Recently I rewatched one of amazing French noir films "Le Dernier Tournant" (1939) that was based upon famous James Cain's novel "The Postman Always Rings Twice". And I was so upset realising I can't understand any French phrases. It's so tender and sweet language, so I keep asking why I was so dumby not having taught it. Oh, yes "ritualised child-abuse" is exactly what they do almost all over the world. Spreading their sick and perverted look on things, and covering it behind some educational programs and so on. While filling us up with some filthy fairy tales that this program is going to make kids better, they do nothing, but massive brainwashing propaganda.
|
|