|
Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 12, 2020 2:24:48 GMT
Self reflection ,which is the grounding of awareness, is dependent upon a cyclical form which transcends the consciousness of the self into a universal consciousness which exists through this cycle. There is both individual and universal consciousness.
Consciousness as existing through an ever present now, as a series of converging and diverging phenomenon, is always infinite given it exists through this convergence and divergence.
Gradation, as the expansion/contraction of phenomenon from a point 0, is the manifestation of being moving through itself as itself. The self is expressed by this expansion/contraction of forms where the self is moving through itself as itself as an approximation of a higher self.
The self as infinite, through the higher consciousness which is infinite, necessitates the self never being fully observed given one cannot assume the full experience of infinity without falling into a metaphorical or even literal abyss.
|
|
|
Post by unrealmanifest on Jul 17, 2020 19:29:43 GMT
This is complete gibberish. None of this goes anywhere and it just repeats itself. Big words dont mean you smert. "Big words don't mean you are smart" not "Big words dont mean you smert." You decided to be a grammar Nazi on the internet by correcting an apostrophe, but lacked the ability to realize that Smert was the intended spelling. First time on the internet and reading the word smert bud? Consciousness at it's finest.
|
|
|
Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 18, 2020 16:02:34 GMT
"Big words don't mean you are smart" not "Big words dont mean you smert." You decided to be a grammar Nazi on the internet by correcting an apostrophe, but lacked the ability to realize that Smert was the intended spelling. First time on the internet and reading the word smert bud? Consciousness at it's finest. You forgot "are" too. I just find it ironic that you complain about grammar and cannot construct a basic sentence correctly. Who is the real grammar nazi? Your criticism is hypocritical....and no the words used are not big.
|
|
bfstats
New Member
Posts: 3
Likes: 2
|
Post by bfstats on Jul 22, 2020 5:29:32 GMT
|
|
|
Post by karl on Jul 22, 2020 5:32:58 GMT
Could you elaborate on that?
|
|
bfstats
New Member
Posts: 3
Likes: 2
|
Post by bfstats on Jul 22, 2020 16:34:53 GMT
Could you elaborate on that?
Not my graphic but I can certainly express my interpretation. The implication is that human consciousness is the tip of an infinite iceberg (here rendered upside down) and that the subconscious is an interface between limitless consciousness and that which limits us, physical sensory overload.
|
|
|
Post by karl on Jul 22, 2020 22:52:10 GMT
Could you elaborate on that?
Not my graphic but I can certainly express my interpretation. The implication is that human consciousness is the tip of an infinite iceberg (here rendered upside down) and that the subconscious is an interface between limitless consciousness and that which limits us, physical sensory overload.
If I understood it correctly, I agree with it.
Our consciousness is limited by its ability to find clarity in the complexity of reality, and in order not to be overwhelmed, most of the information processed by the mind has to remain subconscious. Only a fraction of it seeps into consciousness as vague impressions and ideas, for then to be clarified through analytical thinking. Over time, acquiring insight leads to an ever larger internal framework for interpreting reality, which allows the conscious mind to take on more complexity. However, most people stagnate early on in this process. They remain on a low level of awareness, where most of reality will forever be eclipsed from their conscious mind.
|
|
|
Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 23, 2020 3:05:26 GMT
Could you elaborate on that?
Not my graphic but I can certainly express my interpretation. The implication is that human consciousness is the tip of an infinite iceberg (here rendered upside down) and that the subconscious is an interface between limitless consciousness and that which limits us, physical sensory overload. The subconsciousness is thus intrinsically empty and formless as a means of potential consciousness. It is that which the conscious may be but is not. As empty and formless the subconsciousness is that which assumes and is imprinted by patterns of reality and as such is an integral part of the formation of consciousness given that it acts as the means through which one set of patterns, that which are received, are inverted into a new set of patterns, that which are projected. The subconsciousness and void are fundamentally the same thing.
|
|
|
Post by karl on Jul 23, 2020 3:29:16 GMT
Not my graphic but I can certainly express my interpretation. The implication is that human consciousness is the tip of an infinite iceberg (here rendered upside down) and that the subconscious is an interface between limitless consciousness and that which limits us, physical sensory overload. The subconsciousness is thus intrinsically empty and formless as a means of potential consciousness. It is that which the conscious may be but is not. As empty and formless the subconsciousness is that which assumes and is imprinted by patterns of reality and as such is an integral part of the formation of consciousness given that it acts as the means through which one set of patterns, that which are received, are inverted into a new set of patterns, that which are projected. The subconsciousness and void are fundamentally the same thing.
I partly agree, but the subconscious isn't a mere blank receiver of patterns, but also interprets what the mind perceives through the senses. And that half-baked interpretation is sometimes communicated to us in dreams.
|
|
bfstats
New Member
Posts: 3
Likes: 2
|
Post by bfstats on Jul 23, 2020 3:47:46 GMT
To karl and xxxxxxxxx, excellent responses, and just the kind of well thought-out and reasonable expression I’ve been looking for. Agreement/disagreement don’t matter so much as the broadening of perspective.
|
|
|
Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 23, 2020 20:45:29 GMT
The subconsciousness is thus intrinsically empty and formless as a means of potential consciousness. It is that which the conscious may be but is not. As empty and formless the subconsciousness is that which assumes and is imprinted by patterns of reality and as such is an integral part of the formation of consciousness given that it acts as the means through which one set of patterns, that which are received, are inverted into a new set of patterns, that which are projected. The subconsciousness and void are fundamentally the same thing.
I partly agree, but the subconscious isn't a mere blank receiver of patterns, but also interprets what the mind perceives through the senses. And that half-baked interpretation is sometimes communicated to us in dreams.
As empty and formless the subconsciousness is that which assumes and is imprinted by patterns of reality and as such is an integral part of the formation of consciousness given that it acts as the means through which one set of patterns, that which are received, are inverted into a new set of patterns, that which are projected.
|
|
|
Post by jamesskywalker on Jul 23, 2020 21:17:29 GMT
Acquiring insight is an eternal process and may be compared with the approximation of an irrational number in the rational number system. I would argue that by any meaningful definition of the term "existence", an irrational number doesn't actually exist. The existence of the irrational number pi depends on the existence of a perfect circle, but it's my view that if the perfect circle actually exists, its circumference divided by its diameter wouldn't be an irrational number. Rather, this tells us that it doesn't exist. And if anyone were to argue that the perfect circle does exist because we can imagine it, my response would be that we can not. If one tries to picture a perfect circle, whatever comes up in one's conscious imagintation would be anything but perfect. The perfect circle is merely the concept of a line continuously curved at the same rate until it meets itself, but that doesn't mean that such a mathematical object actually exists. I would argue that it exists neither in the physical, nor the introspective world. An irrational number is as unreachable as "the highest state of consciousness" precisely because neither exist. Instead one has an eternal approximation process with no upper limit in regards to complexity. All loops are approximation of a single loop given what we see repeatedly is the loop as well as its repetition as the loop. We repeatedly see the loop and the repetition of the loop and this is a loop. If one cannot imagine perfection then one cannot imagine perfect absolute truth such as 1+2=3. We can imagine perfect truths thus we can imagine a perfect circle and measure it. That which exists has some degree of perfection given it is one of a kind. All irrational numbers are perfectly dynamic. Dynamic like the Titanic? Or am I being irrational? Or just perfectly fine?
|
|
william
New Member
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
|
Post by william on Aug 6, 2020 20:57:30 GMT
Self reflection ,which is the grounding of awareness, is dependent upon a cyclical form which transcends the consciousness of the self into a universal consciousness which exists through this cycle. There is both individual and universal consciousness. Consciousness as existing through an ever present now, as a series of converging and diverging phenomenon, is always infinite given it exists through this convergence and divergence. Gradation, as the expansion/contraction of phenomenon from a point 0, is the manifestation of being moving through itself as itself. The self is expressed by this expansion/contraction of forms where the self is moving through itself as itself as an approximation of a higher self. The self as infinite, through the higher consciousness which is infinite, necessitates the self never being fully observed given one cannot assume the full experience of infinity without falling into a metaphorical or even literal abyss. Have you ever read this document? The Gateway Experience: Analysis and Assessment of Gateway ProcessFrom the document:
|
|
|
Post by xxxxxxxxx on Aug 6, 2020 22:53:49 GMT
Self reflection ,which is the grounding of awareness, is dependent upon a cyclical form which transcends the consciousness of the self into a universal consciousness which exists through this cycle. There is both individual and universal consciousness. Consciousness as existing through an ever present now, as a series of converging and diverging phenomenon, is always infinite given it exists through this convergence and divergence. Gradation, as the expansion/contraction of phenomenon from a point 0, is the manifestation of being moving through itself as itself. The self is expressed by this expansion/contraction of forms where the self is moving through itself as itself as an approximation of a higher self. The self as infinite, through the higher consciousness which is infinite, necessitates the self never being fully observed given one cannot assume the full experience of infinity without falling into a metaphorical or even literal abyss. Have you ever read this document? The Gateway Experience: Analysis and Assessment of Gateway ProcessFrom the document: No I haven't read it but I cannot really disagree with the premises.
|
|
william
New Member
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
|
Post by william on Aug 7, 2020 4:16:40 GMT
No I haven't read it but I cannot really disagree with the premises. Exactly. What I find interesting about the document is that it is actual CIA investigated material examining the idea that we exist within a hologram - a simulation... Self reflection [deep introspection] can connect one with the supeconsciousness [subconsciousness] and one should be able to find a way of doing the science in relation to that...I have been working on this myself for a few years now...
|
|
|
Post by Elizabeth on Aug 7, 2020 4:33:07 GMT
No I haven't read it but I cannot really disagree with the premises. Exactly. What I find interesting about the document is that it is actual CIA investigated material examining the idea that we exist within a hologram - a simulation... Self reflection [deep introspection] can connect one with the supeconsciousness [subconsciousness] and one should be able to find a way of doing the science in relation to that...I have been working on this myself for a few years now... Do you know why the CIA felt the need to investigate such a thing? To me it seems not their normal work duties. Did they get suspicious about something maybe or something tipped them off?
|
|