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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 12, 2020 2:24:48 GMT
Self reflection ,which is the grounding of awareness, is dependent upon a cyclical form which transcends the consciousness of the self into a universal consciousness which exists through this cycle. There is both individual and universal consciousness.
Consciousness as existing through an ever present now, as a series of converging and diverging phenomenon, is always infinite given it exists through this convergence and divergence.
Gradation, as the expansion/contraction of phenomenon from a point 0, is the manifestation of being moving through itself as itself. The self is expressed by this expansion/contraction of forms where the self is moving through itself as itself as an approximation of a higher self.
The self as infinite, through the higher consciousness which is infinite, necessitates the self never being fully observed given one cannot assume the full experience of infinity without falling into a metaphorical or even literal abyss.
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Post by jamesskywalker on Jul 12, 2020 2:43:12 GMT
Are you trying to say I’m self-conscious?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 12, 2020 3:15:02 GMT
Are you trying to say I’m self-conscious? If you were self-conscious you wouldn't be writing in the chatbox about how much you want to pork your mother. Don't worry I think you're good.
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Post by jamesskywalker on Jul 12, 2020 3:20:37 GMT
Are you trying to say I’m self-conscious? If you were self-conscious you wouldn't be writing in the chatbox about how much you want to pork your mother. Don't worry I think you're good. My mom gave me so much. It’s time I gave back.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 12, 2020 3:35:30 GMT
If you were self-conscious you wouldn't be writing in the chatbox about how much you want to pork your mother. Don't worry I think you're good. My mom gave me so much. It’s time I gave back. Flowers usually are ways to give back or helping out with fixing things around the house. But self consciousness does go a long way if people used it more. It's like a cure too for those who may not be decent they can use self consciousness to appear as decent. It works like magic.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 12, 2020 3:40:44 GMT
So you are using self as many forms, meaning the self is plural? But why would it be a higher self if it's all part of the same individual. I would assume the individual is on the same level at all times even when they're trying to be "the bigger person" since being the bigger person is just still doing a normal thing and not changing your physical form/size.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 12, 2020 3:48:59 GMT
If you were self-conscious you wouldn't be writing in the chatbox about how much you want to pork your mother. Don't worry I think you're good. My mom gave me so much. It’s time I gave back. Hey man. They let the gays get married so... You do you.
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Post by karl on Jul 12, 2020 17:52:32 GMT
Acquiring insight is an eternal process and may be compared with the approximation of an irrational number in the rational number system. I would argue that by any meaningful definition of the term "existence", an irrational number doesn't actually exist. The existence of the irrational number pi depends on the existence of a perfect circle, but it's my view that if the perfect circle actually exists, its circumference divided by its diameter wouldn't be an irrational number. Rather, this tells us that it doesn't exist. And if anyone were to argue that the perfect circle does exist because we can imagine it, my response would be that we can not. If one tries to picture a perfect circle, whatever comes up in one's conscious imagintation would be anything but perfect. The perfect circle is merely the concept of a line continuously curved at the same rate until it meets itself, but that doesn't mean that such a mathematical object actually exists. I would argue that it exists neither in the physical, nor the introspective world.
An irrational number is as unreachable as "the highest state of consciousness" precisely because neither exist. Instead one has an eternal approximation process with no upper limit in regards to complexity.
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Post by unrealmanifest on Jul 12, 2020 21:17:57 GMT
This is complete gibberish. None of this goes anywhere and it just repeats itself. Big words dont mean you smert.
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Post by sai123 on Jul 14, 2020 14:15:11 GMT
How would we know ourselves that we are in consciousness? are there any rational thoughts or any scientific experiment to Test about it?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 14, 2020 22:15:06 GMT
This is complete gibberish. None of this goes anywhere and it just repeats itself. Big words dont mean you smert. "Big words don't mean you are smart" not "Big words dont mean you smert."
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 14, 2020 22:21:50 GMT
So you are using self as many forms, meaning the self is plural? But why would it be a higher self if it's all part of the same individual. I would assume the individual is on the same level at all times even when they're trying to be "the bigger person" since being the bigger person is just still doing a normal thing and not changing your physical form/size. The self is relegated to that which it assumes. The self assumes patterns, thus assumes forms. Each pattern is some degree of the I. Some patterns we act out occur relatively such as acting one way around a friend and another way, let's say, around an automechanic who is working on our car. I may contract the patterns of the relationship with a friend around an automechanic and expand the patterns of how I act around an automechanic around the automechanic. And vice versa. Each set of patterns is a different degree of the self, each pattern as a behavior is a set of forms given all actions result in a form.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 14, 2020 22:25:42 GMT
How would we know ourselves that we are in consciousness? are there any rational thoughts or any scientific experiment to Test about it? Self reflection is a circular form, this circular form is observable as a cycle where the I as self aware observes itself from multiple angles thus a recursion of the "I". To test self awareness would require the same circular type reasoning of the scientific method thus showing a replication of this same loop.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 14, 2020 22:30:28 GMT
Acquiring insight is an eternal process and may be compared with the approximation of an irrational number in the rational number system. I would argue that by any meaningful definition of the term "existence", an irrational number doesn't actually exist. The existence of the irrational number pi depends on the existence of a perfect circle, but it's my view that if the perfect circle actually exists, its circumference divided by its diameter wouldn't be an irrational number. Rather, this tells us that it doesn't exist. And if anyone were to argue that the perfect circle does exist because we can imagine it, my response would be that we can not. If one tries to picture a perfect circle, whatever comes up in one's conscious imagintation would be anything but perfect. The perfect circle is merely the concept of a line continuously curved at the same rate until it meets itself, but that doesn't mean that such a mathematical object actually exists. I would argue that it exists neither in the physical, nor the introspective world. An irrational number is as unreachable as "the highest state of consciousness" precisely because neither exist. Instead one has an eternal approximation process with no upper limit in regards to complexity. All loops are approximation of a single loop given what we see repeatedly is the loop as well as its repetition as the loop. We repeatedly see the loop and the repetition of the loop and this is a loop. If one cannot imagine perfection then one cannot imagine perfect absolute truth such as 1+2=3. We can imagine perfect truths thus we can imagine a perfect circle and measure it. That which exists has some degree of perfection given it is one of a kind. All irrational numbers are perfectly dynamic.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 15, 2020 0:14:07 GMT
So you are using self as many forms, meaning the self is plural? But why would it be a higher self if it's all part of the same individual. I would assume the individual is on the same level at all times even when they're trying to be "the bigger person" since being the bigger person is just still doing a normal thing and not changing your physical form/size. The self is relegated to that which it assumes. The self assumes patterns, thus assumes forms. Each pattern is some degree of the I. Some patterns we act out occur relatively such as acting one way around a friend and another way, let's say, around an automechanic who is working on our car. I may contract the patterns of the relationship with a friend around an automechanic and expand the patterns of how I act around an automechanic around the automechanic. And vice versa. Each set of patterns is a different degree of the self, each pattern as a behavior is a set of forms given all actions result in a form. Hmm. Looks at it in terms of ABA (Applied Behavior Analysis, it's a science actually) Each pattern is some degree of the antecedent. Some patterns we act out occur relatively such as acting one way around a friend and another way, let's say around an automechanic who is working on our car. What that means is that the antecedent (event, environment, etc.) causes a certain behavior to occur. Behavior can be shaped and even manipulated. Like we will act like ourselves around our friend because it's the environment that allows for that. We won't do that around an automechanic or some stranger we don't know well and just act neutral basically. That doesn't mean we have to but if we let the environment shape our behavior we will be liked more and be better off despite a few exceptions. For example, if it's a funeral then the environment will call for being quiet unless you're crying or giving a speech. Lost of sadness needed too. However, if you don't let the environment/funeral shape your behavior into that and you decide to laugh and make jokes and whatever then people will be angry and some relationships/friendships will parish because that behavior was not ok for the antecedent/event/environment. Each set of patterns is a different degree of the antecedent, each pattern as a behavior is a set of forms given all actions result in a form. So, I agree to an extent. I just use ABA terms for this.
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