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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 21, 2017 23:45:38 GMT
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 16, 2018 19:26:10 GMT
khaos Tatar/mongol Gipsy from Tatarstan? what??
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Post by khaos on Mar 16, 2018 19:33:56 GMT
khaos Tatar/mongol Gipsy from Tatarstan? what?? Just look at Jjaskiz comment and you'll see what I mean..
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Post by khaos on Mar 16, 2018 19:40:50 GMT
I thought that you were smart but with this comment you just proved that you are even dumber than him. >y'all are basically Bulgarians but with less gypsy and more Albanian. where the fuck do you get these infos? "less gypsy and more Albanian" was that supposed to be an insult? What are you fucking 12? If you even had a single clue you would know that Macedonian don't mix with Gypsies. Ok, maybe you'll find one or two marriages between a Gypsy and a Macedonian in the whole country, is that enough to call someone mixed with gypsies? Albanians in Macedonia are 99% Muslims so we don't mix with them (with few exceptions), some Macedonians from rural areas might buy an Albanian bride from Southern Albania but that's about it. It's really rare, it's not like every second house is a Macedonian-Albanian. Alexander the Great spread the Greek culture because he really admired it and wanted to be a part of it. They didn't spoke Greek since they were called barbarians by the ancient Greeks. The term "barbarian" comes from a linguistic sphere, not a cultural one. The ancient Greeks called barbarians those who spoke other, incomprehensible languages. Even doe the ancient Macedonians were slowly included into the sphere of Hellenic culture (after Alexander the I), the ancient Greeks NEVER acknowledged them as compatriots. There are numerous testimonies from that time that can prove my point. Already posted this on the first page but I guess you didn't even read it. So, do you research first before you say anything stupid next time 1. It wasn't an insult, there is a high degree of admixture from Gypsies and Albanians in Macedonians, I'm not say you all are Albanians or Gypsies whatsoever 2. Alexander the Great and the Kings of Macedonia claimed Greek decent, they assimilated into Greek Culture by that time, there is a consensus that the majority of the population of Macedonia was mostly Greek, based upon archaeological and linguistic evidence 3. Ancient Macedonian is considered either a dialect of Ancient Greek or a separate but very closely related language I will need to find the sources I read a few years back. It will take me a while. 1. LMAO! And where's your proof? I just really wanna know where'd you read that. 2. Only after Alexander the I Macedonian kings claimed to be Greek in order to be accepted into the Hellenistic world. Why would Alexander the I needed to prove that he is Greek, if he was already Greek? Later he was given the nickname "phihellene", now - a Greek, who needed to prove that he is Greek, was given that nickname. Alexander the Great the Greek, a friend/lover to the Greeks/Greek culture. Odd, isn't it? Ancient Hellenic language was lingua franca in ancient times, just like Latin was in Medieval Europe, the Thracians also used the Hellenic language as a written one, but were they Greeks? No, so there goes your argument. 3. Bullshit. There is a little evidence about the ancient Macedonian language, but even so, all the arguments proove that it was a separate language. Read Ernst Badian "Greeks and Macedonians" book. Sure, be my guest.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 16, 2018 19:43:09 GMT
It's just anti-scientific /history term!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 19:59:36 GMT
1. It wasn't an insult, there is a high degree of admixture from Gypsies and Albanians in Macedonians, I'm not say you all are Albanians or Gypsies whatsoever 2. Alexander the Great and the Kings of Macedonia claimed Greek decent, they assimilated into Greek Culture by that time, there is a consensus that the majority of the population of Macedonia was mostly Greek, based upon archaeological and linguistic evidence 3. Ancient Macedonian is considered either a dialect of Ancient Greek or a separate but very closely related language I will need to find the sources I read a few years back. It will take me a while. 1. LMAO! And where's your proof? I just really wanna know where'd you read that. 2. Only after Alexander the I Macedonian kings claimed to be Greek in order to be accepted into the Hellenistic world. Why would Alexander the I needed to prove that he is Greek, if he was already Greek? Later he was given the nickname "phihellene", now - a Greek, who needed to prove that he is Greek, was given that nickname. Alexander the Great the Greek, a friend/lover to the Greeks/Greek culture. Odd, isn't it? Ancient Hellenic language was lingua franca in ancient times, just like Latin was in Medieval Europe, the Thracians also used the Hellenic language as a written one, but were they Greeks? No, so there goes your argument. 3. Bullshit. There is a little evidence about the ancient Macedonian language, but even so, all the arguments proove that it was a separate language. Read Ernst Badian "Greeks and Macedonians" book. Sure, be my guest. 1. Like I said I need to get my sources together 2. He was most likely Greek, it's not certain but based upon the evidence I've seen, they were all Greek 3. I never said it was or wasn't a separate language. I said "Ancient Macedonian is considered either a dialect of Ancient Greek or a separate but very closely related language", That is the consensus from linguists.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 16, 2018 22:59:50 GMT
khaos I think @jjaskiz claims a kinship with Alexander the Great!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 8:44:06 GMT
Macedonians are Indo-Europeans and are descendants of the Ancient Macedonians but mixed since the Slavs mixed with the Macedonians when they came to the Balkans in the 5th or 6th Century. But according to IGenea DNA tests, Us Macedonians are decendants of the Ancient Macedonians so go get your facts right before talking crap khaos . imgur.com/Mhi8kulAnd it is retarded and brainwashed traitors like you which is why our country is farked and full of brain washed traitors fighting against the Macedonian Cause and is why our country Macedonia is doing bad today. Igenea is a complete bullshit, made by some so-called "scientists" that only bots like you like to quote. With that picture you just destroyed all your claims that Bulgarians are Tatar-Mongols/Gypsies from Tatarstan or whatever you call them, yet according to that DNA research you are 5% Hunnic. How dumb can you be? Judging by your comments I can assure you that I am an elephant compared to mouse (you) when it comes to history. So stop posting meaningless and embarrassing comments, everyone will laugh at you. And we never were a normal country anyway. All of the previous governments were anti-Macedonian (especially the DPMNE one that ruled for 11 years) and yet you still support them. Moron. Da zivee fyrom1!!111!111!11!1!!!!!!1 The Igenea DNA test of Macedonians of Republic Of Macedonia is not fake and not made up because DNA does not lie. Also the Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars did mix with the Macedonians too but that doesn't mean Macedonians of Macedonia are not Indo-Europeans and not descendants of Alexander "The Great Of Macedon" Because Macedonians of Macedonia are Indo-Europeans and descendants of Alexander "The Great Of Macedon" Because Macedonians of Republic Of Macedonia were around in the Balkans longer then the Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars who mixed with the Macedonians. But No race in the world is pure and any Greek Gypsy of Hell Ass (Greece) that said "They are pure Greek Gypsies" are full of shit. And not all of the Politicians of Macedonia were sell outs, Only some. But a lot of people will do anything for money, Even if it means selling out their own country out like the current Macedonian Government of Republic Of Macedonia which is the SDSM Party but VMRO-DPMNE Party never sold out their own country and people like the current Macedonian Government SDSM Party of Republic Of Macedonia, The VMRO-DPMNE Party always kept our country Republic Of Macedonia safe from being sold out. And you say "You know Macedonian History and Politics of Republic Of Macedonia but yet you don't post nothing on here, You are all bark but no bite like a little Chihuahua so keep yapping.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 9:12:58 GMT
The thing is that most of your forefathers were Slavic in origin, that's why you speak a Slavic language, y'all are basically Bulgarians but with less gypsy and more Albanian. Also, ancient Macedonians were mostly Greek (there were a few Thracians in there) and they spoke Greek. Why do you think Alexander spread all that Greek influence? Because he was Greek. I thought that you were smart but with this comment you just proved that you are even dumber than him. >y'all are basically Bulgarians but with less gypsy and more Albanian. where the fuck do you get these infos? "less gypsy and more Albanian" was that supposed to be an insult? What are you fucking 12? If you even had a single clue you would know that Macedonian don't mix with Gypsies. Ok, maybe you'll find one or two marriages between a Gypsy and a Macedonian in the whole country, is that enough to call someone mixed with gypsies? Albanians in Macedonia are 99% Muslims so we don't mix with them (with few exceptions), some Macedonians from rural areas might buy an Albanian bride from Southern Albania but that's about it. It's really rare, it's not like every second house is a Macedonian-Albanian. Alexander the Great spread the Greek culture because he really admired it and wanted to be a part of it. They didn't spoke Greek since they were called barbarians by the ancient Greeks. The term "barbarian" comes from a linguistic sphere, not a cultural one. The ancient Greeks called barbarians those who spoke other, incomprehensible languages. Even doe the ancient Macedonians were slowly included into the sphere of Hellenic culture (after Alexander the I), the ancient Greeks NEVER acknowledged them as compatriots. There are numerous testimonies from that time that can prove my point. Already posted this on the first page but I guess you didn't even read it. So, do you research first before you say anything stupid next time The Macedonians were never Bulgarian Tatars, We speak a different Language to them, The Bulgarian Tatars speak a mixed Macedonian/Serbian/Croatian Language mixed with the Russian/Ukrainian Language. The #Macedonian #Language is not fake, Us #Macedonians of #Macedonia are the ones who gave the #Slav/#Slavs/#Slavic people their #Alphabet, #Languages, #Literature & etc... Made by the two #Macedonians #Cyril and #Methodius of #Macedonia. t.co/4YGGkD115HProof the Macedonian Language is not the same as the Bulgarian Language and not the same as the Serbian Language but a similar Dialect. It was the Macedonians of Macedonia who were the cradle of Slavic Literature and the Macedonians Cyril and Methodius of Macedonia were the ones who gave them our Alphabet and Languages and Literature which they changed and made their own Dialect off us Macedonians of Macedonia. Only a small amount of Macedonians are Slavic while the rest are Indo-Europeans. ibb.co/eghiHxMacedonians of Republic Of Macedonia were never Turko-Albanian Greek Gypsies, Never Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars and never Shiptare Gypsies from Caucasia because Macedonians are Indo-Europeans who have always lived in the Balkans while the Turko-Albanian Greek Gypsies are of Turko-Albanian origin. The Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars are Tatars from Tatarstan who came to the Balkans later. The Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars spoke a Turkic Language until they accepted and adopted Christianity and they adopted the Slavic Alphabet and the Slavic Language which the Macedonians Cyril and Methodius made because Macedonians were the cradle of Slavic Literature. And the Shiptare Gypsies are from Caucasia Albania and had nothing to do with the Illusions because the real Illyrians are the Bosnians. And Macedonians are only partially Slavic while many other Macedonians were Indo-European Macedonians. Proof #Macedonians from #Macedonia are not #Bulgarian #Tartars & not from Former #Tartarstan #Republic Of #Bulgaria. anotepad.com/notes/sakm8yProof #Bulgarian #Tartar's from the Former #Tartarstan #Republic Of #Bulgaria are #Tartars from #Tartarstan. anotepad.com/notes/x7hqmbJust watch the YouTube video that proves you wrong and proves me right that Macedonians and Macedonia was never Greek Gypsies and never part of Greece (Hell Ass) or you can keep being in denial and ignoring the truth. Proof the #AncientMacedonians & that #AncientMacedonia & today's #Macedonians & #Macedonia was never #Greek & was never part of #Greece. Proof #Macedonia & #Macedonians were never #Greek #Gypsies & never part of #Greece (#HellAss). anotepad.com/notes/q85d73Proof the #Greek #Gypsies of the Former #TurkoAlbanian #Undemocratic #Gypsy #Republic Of #Greece (#HellAss) are of #TurkoAlbanian origin. anotepad.com/notes/632gthAnd I was not talking about marriages between Macedonians and Romani Gypsies, I was talking about the Bulgarian Tatars being Turkic Mongol Gypsies and Macedonians never being Bulgarian Tatars. And Macedonians were never Shiptares (Albanians) because the Macedonians are Indo-Europeans who have always lived in the Balkans while the Shiptares (Albanians) are from Caucasia (Albania) and are not Illyrians and came to the Balkans later and occupied Macedonian land. www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 9:17:38 GMT
I thought that you were smart but with this comment you just proved that you are even dumber than him. >y'all are basically Bulgarians but with less gypsy and more Albanian. where the fuck do you get these infos? "less gypsy and more Albanian" was that supposed to be an insult? What are you fucking 12? If you even had a single clue you would know that Macedonian don't mix with Gypsies. Ok, maybe you'll find one or two marriages between a Gypsy and a Macedonian in the whole country, is that enough to call someone mixed with gypsies? Albanians in Macedonia are 99% Muslims so we don't mix with them (with few exceptions), some Macedonians from rural areas might buy an Albanian bride from Southern Albania but that's about it. It's really rare, it's not like every second house is a Macedonian-Albanian. Alexander the Great spread the Greek culture because he really admired it and wanted to be a part of it. They didn't spoke Greek since they were called barbarians by the ancient Greeks. The term "barbarian" comes from a linguistic sphere, not a cultural one. The ancient Greeks called barbarians those who spoke other, incomprehensible languages. Even doe the ancient Macedonians were slowly included into the sphere of Hellenic culture (after Alexander the I), the ancient Greeks NEVER acknowledged them as compatriots. There are numerous testimonies from that time that can prove my point. Already posted this on the first page but I guess you didn't even read it. So, do you research first before you say anything stupid next time 1. It wasn't an insult, there is a high degree of admixture from Gypsies and Albanians in Macedonians, I'm not say you all are Albanians or Gypsies whatsoever 2. Alexander the Great and the Kings of Macedonia claimed Greek decent, they assimilated into Greek Culture by that time, there is a consensus that the majority of the population of Macedonia was mostly Greek, based upon archaeological and linguistic evidence 3. Ancient Macedonian is considered either a dialect of Ancient Greek or a separate but very closely related language I will need to find the sources I read a few years back. It will take me a while. Just watch the YouTube video that proves you wrong and proves me right that Macedonians and Macedonia was never Greek Gypsies and never part of Greece (Hell Ass) or you can keep being in denial and ignoring the truth. Proof the #AncientMacedonians & that #AncientMacedonia & today's #Macedonians & #Macedonia was never #Greek & was never part of #Greece. More proof #Macedonia & #Macedonians were never #Greek #Gypsies & never part of #Greece (#HellAss). anotepad.com/notes/q85d73Proof the #Greek #Gypsies of the Former #TurkoAlbanian #Undemocratic #Gypsy #Republic Of #Greece (#HellAss) are of #TurkoAlbanian origin. anotepad.com/notes/632gth
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 9:21:56 GMT
Macedonians of Republic Of Macedonia were never Turko-Albanian Greek Gypsies, Never Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars and never Shiptare Gypsies from Caucasia because Macedonians are Indo-Europeans who have always lived in the Balkans while the Turko-Albanian Greek Gypsies are of Turko-Albanian origin. The Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars are Tatars from Tatarstan who came to the Balkans later. The Bulgarian Turkic Mongol Tatars spoke a Turkic Language until they accepted and adopted Christianity and they adopted the Slavic Alphabet and the Slavic Language which the Macedonians Cyril and Methodius made because Macedonians were the cradle of Slavic Literature. And the Shiptare Gypsies are from Caucasia Albania and had nothing to do with the Illusions because the real Illyrians are the Bosnians. And Macedonians are only partially Slavic while many other Macedonians were Indo-European Macedonians. Proof the #AncientMacedonians & that #AncientMacedonia & today's #Macedonians & #Macedonia was never #Greek & was never part of #Greece. More proof #Macedonia & #Macedonians were never #Greek #Gypsies & never part of #Greece (#HellAss). anotepad.com/notes/q85d73Proof the #Greek #Gypsies of the Former #TurkoAlbanian #Undemocratic #Gypsy #Republic Of #Greece (#HellAss) are of #TurkoAlbanian origin. anotepad.com/notes/632gthProof #Macedonians from #Macedonia are not #Bulgarian #Tartars & not from Former #Tartarstan #Republic Of #Bulgaria. anotepad.com/notes/sakm8yProof #Bulgarian #Tartar's from the Former #Tartarstan #Republic Of #Bulgaria are #Tartars from #Tartarstan. anotepad.com/notes/x7hqmbProof Shiptares (Albanians) are not Illyrians and came later to the Balkans just like the Bulgarian Tatars. So Macedonians cannot be Shiptares (Albanians) because us Macedonians are Indo-Europeans who have always lived in the Balkans while the Shiptares are a bunch of Gypsy carnt peasants who came to the Balkans later and have nothing to do with Illyrians or Illyria. www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-wordsProof the Macedonians of Macedonia are the cradle of all Slavic Literature. www.minareport.com/2017/05/24/putin-macedonia-is-a-cradle-of-all-slavic-literature/Proof the Macedonian Language is not Bulgarian Tatar Language and not Serbian Language but a different Language to both of them. Proof Macedonians of Macedonia are only partially Slavic. ibb.co/eghiHxGo learn proper History before posting propaganda on here @cornbread . I will look at all of your sources, and see if they present information that is crucial to your argument, but that will take some time. All my facts are checked and do back up all my arguments I make in here, Either you read and accept the truth or you can keep being in denial of the truth. Proof the #AncientMacedonians & that #AncientMacedonia & today's #Macedonians & #Macedonia was never #Greek & was never part of #Greece. More proof #Macedonia & #Macedonians were never #Greek #Gypsies & never part of #Greece (#HellAss). anotepad.com/notes/q85d73Proof the #Greek #Gypsies of the Former #TurkoAlbanian #Undemocratic #Gypsy #Republic Of #Greece (#HellAss) are of #TurkoAlbanian origin. anotepad.com/notes/632gth
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 9:35:55 GMT
1. It wasn't an insult, there is a high degree of admixture from Gypsies and Albanians in Macedonians, I'm not say you all are Albanians or Gypsies whatsoever 2. Alexander the Great and the Kings of Macedonia claimed Greek decent, they assimilated into Greek Culture by that time, there is a consensus that the majority of the population of Macedonia was mostly Greek, based upon archaeological and linguistic evidence 3. Ancient Macedonian is considered either a dialect of Ancient Greek or a separate but very closely related language I will need to find the sources I read a few years back. It will take me a while. 1. LMAO! And where's your proof? I just really wanna know where'd you read that. 2. Only after Alexander the I Macedonian kings claimed to be Greek in order to be accepted into the Hellenistic world. Why would Alexander the I needed to prove that he is Greek, if he was already Greek? Later he was given the nickname "phihellene", now - a Greek, who needed to prove that he is Greek, was given that nickname. Alexander the Great the Greek, a friend/lover to the Greeks/Greek culture. Odd, isn't it? Ancient Hellenic language was lingua franca in ancient times, just like Latin was in Medieval Europe, the Thracians also used the Hellenic language as a written one, but were they Greeks? No, so there goes your argument. 3. Bullshit. There is a little evidence about the ancient Macedonian language, but even so, all the arguments proove that it was a separate language. Read Ernst Badian "Greeks and Macedonians" book. Sure, be my guest. Alexander "The Great Of Macedon" was half Macedonian (Because his father Phillip II of Macedonia was Macedonian) And half Greek Gypsy (Because his mother Olympus was a Greek Gypsy) but the Ancient Macedonian Empire (Macedon), The Ancient Macedonians of Macedonia (Macedon) and the land, Culture, Language and etc... Of the Macedonians and Macedon was not Greek Gypsy. Alexander "The Great Of Macedon" went in the Olympic Games while King Phillip II "Of Macedon" didn't and couldn't because he was Macedonian. And of course the Ancient Macedonian Language was not Greek Gypsy Language but a total separate language to the Greek Gypsy Language, When he was conquering the world, He got in a argument with one of his soldiers and spoke in Macedonian so the Greek Gypsy soldiers did not understand him. Just watch the YouTube video below. Proof the #AncientMacedonians & that #AncientMacedonia & today's #Macedonians & #Macedonia was never #Greek & was never part of #Greece. And Macedonians are not mixed with the Shiptares (Albanians) because the Shiptares (Albanians) are not Illyrians, They are from Caucasia Albania. The real Illyrians are the Bosnians. www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words
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Post by khaos on Mar 17, 2018 12:01:40 GMT
Jjaskiz you are probably one of the dumbest Macedonians I've met on the internet
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 17, 2018 12:21:46 GMT
Is this how Macedonians get along online?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 17, 2018 13:37:37 GMT
@jjaskiz for you all the Greeks are gypsies?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 17, 2018 13:38:34 GMT
Is this how Macedonians get along online? Alexander the Great and his empire - this is the only thing that the famous Macedonia!
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