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Post by greatestiam on May 31, 2020 17:35:40 GMT
Is Yahweh breaking an objective moral tenet?
I have found few examples of an objective moral tenet but think that, --- the good of the many, outweighs the good of the few, --- to be an objective moral tenet. It seems correct in all situations.
You might disagree with an example where this tenet is not objective or applicable.
Yahweh seems to put the good of the few ahead of the good of the many. Scriptures indicate that the many will end in hell while the few will end in heaven.
In thinking of this, I also thought that Yahweh was breaking another moral tenet by putting his life above his own child’s. He sent Jesus to die instead of stepping up himself, to appease his own wrath against man.
Should fathers put themselves and their lives above their children’s, or should fathers protect their children at all costs?
I know that few like to answer moral questions as we all have a bit of moral coward in us.
Do try to answer both of my questions please.
Regards
DL
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Post by fschmidt on May 31, 2020 17:58:23 GMT
I follow the Old Testament, not the New Testament. Yahweh seems to put the good of the few ahead of the good of the many. Yehovah puts the good ahead of the bad. The good are few and the bad are many. Nothing would be better for humanity than the slaughter of the bad. The Old Testament rejects heaven and hell in Ecclesiastes 3:18-22. The Old Testament makes clear that the purpose of life is evolutionary success.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 31, 2020 18:47:41 GMT
The Old Testament rejects heaven and hell in Ecclesiastes 3:18-22. What about verse 21? It clearly separates spirits on where they go after their flesh turns to dust. Some spirits go up and some spirits go down like beasts it says. Why are spirits separated into 2 different places?
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Post by Elizabeth on May 31, 2020 18:54:28 GMT
Never, unless they only love themselves. Good thing Jesus was willing to die for the people and it's good some did notice His love for them! Yes, sir, and I'm glad Jesus has my back always. Better than all earthly parents too who are mediocre at best. Been reading too much of parents killing their kids on the news lately. But I think we're on the same page about how a father should be!
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Post by fschmidt on Jun 6, 2020 18:08:54 GMT
The Old Testament rejects heaven and hell in Ecclesiastes 3:18-22. What about verse 21? It clearly separates spirits on where they go after their flesh turns to dust. Some spirits go up and some spirits go down like beasts it says. Why are spirits separated into 2 different places? No it doesn't. It says "Who knows if the spirit of people rises upward and the spirit of animals goes downward to the earth?". It is asking the question of whether there really are 2 different places for the spirit to go. It is an expression of skepticism, of doubt. So maybe "rejects" is the wrong word. I should have said "The Old Testament doubts heaven and hell in Ecclesiastes 3:18-22.".
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Jun 23, 2020 20:42:59 GMT
when a father brings an addition to the world...i've always wondered what it meant for a father to be truly proud of his son. is there a dark veil philosophically there?...fathers must be guiding their sons...not dismiss them...
and at the very least, at least effectively helping their sons out and other ways in the name of effeciency of helping anyone...in the name of philosophy and a good life.
like for example...telling them to choose their friends well for maybe even contact purposes for businesses and especially when they grow older.
speaking of philosophically helping their children...what they can teach...they should. if i had a son...it would be an honor...i have a feeling their would be a special bond because the nice nature of my family. to be philosophically nice is important...underlyingly...
it's a big responsibility...i heard rumors, it's the hardest job in the world. there may not be very many similarities to assume but...i'm sure it's not easy.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Jun 23, 2020 20:43:30 GMT
when a father brings an addition to the world...i've always wondered what it meant for a father to be truly proud of his son. is there a dark veil philosophically there?...fathers must be guiding their sons...not dismiss them...
and at the very least, at least effectively helping their sons out and other ways in the name of effeciency of helping anyone...in the name of philosophy and a good life.
like for example...telling them to choose their friends well for maybe even contact purposes for businesses and especially when they grow older.
speaking of philosophically helping their children...what they can teach...they should. if i had a son...it would be an honor...i have a feeling their would be a special bond because the nice nature of my family. to be philosophically nice is important...underlyingly...
it's a big responsibility...i heard rumors, it's the hardest job in the world. there may not be very many similarities to assume but...i'm sure it's not easy.
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Jun 23, 2020 20:44:00 GMT
Is Yahweh breaking an objective moral tenet? I have found few examples of an objective moral tenet but think that, --- the good of the many, outweighs the good of the few, --- to be an objective moral tenet. It seems correct in all situations. You might disagree with an example where this tenet is not objective or applicable. Yahweh seems to put the good of the few ahead of the good of the many. Scriptures indicate that the many will end in hell while the few will end in heaven. In thinking of this, I also thought that Yahweh was breaking another moral tenet by putting his life above his own child’s. He sent Jesus to die instead of stepping up himself, to appease his own wrath against man. Should fathers put themselves and their lives above their children’s, or should fathers protect their children at all costs? I know that few like to answer moral questions as we all have a bit of moral coward in us. Do try to answer both of my questions please. Regards DL when a father brings an addition to the world...i've always wondered what it meant for a father to be truly proud of his son. is there a dark veil philosophically there?...fathers must be guiding their sons...not dismiss them... and at the very least, at least effectively helping their sons out and other ways in the name of effeciency of helping anyone...in the name of philosophy and a good life. like for example...telling them to choose their friends well for maybe even contact purposes for businesses and especially when they grow older. speaking of philosophically helping their children...what they can teach...they should. if i had a son...it would be an honor...i have a feeling their would be a special bond because the nice nature of my family. to be philosophically nice is important...underlyingly... it's a big responsibility...i heard rumors, it's the hardest job in the world. there may not be very many similarities to assume but...i'm sure it's not easy.
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Post by greatestiam on Jul 20, 2020 16:26:56 GMT
I follow the Old Testament, not the New Testament. Yahweh seems to put the good of the few ahead of the good of the many. Yehovah puts the good ahead of the bad. The good are few and the bad are many. Nothing would be better for humanity than the slaughter of the bad. The Old Testament rejects heaven and hell in Ecclesiastes 3:18-22. The Old Testament makes clear that the purpose of life is evolutionary success. So Yahweh did break a moral rule that you would not break. Good for you to not be afraid of that satanic Yahweh/Jesus combo. Strange, but Christian, that you would want to kill the evil instead of curing them the way Jesus said he came to do. You are not even following ther N.T. or a decxent god, as you are putting yahweh's vile methods above Jesus' better asnd more moral position. You choose evil over good, and call that evil good. Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Jul 20, 2020 16:31:37 GMT
Never, unless they only love themselves. Good thing Jesus was willing to die for the people and it's good some did notice His love for them! Yes, sir, and I'm glad Jesus has my back always. Better than all earthly parents too who are mediocre at best. Been reading too much of parents killing their kids on the news lately. But I think we're on the same page about how a father should be! Thanks for agreeing that Yahweh is less of a parent than you are. I don't know why you made a reference to support the opposite choice by giving us Jesus choice, which you think he volunteered for when he was chosen. It is hard when you see what kind of prick you adore. Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Jul 20, 2020 16:52:50 GMT
What about verse 21? It clearly separates spirits on where they go after their flesh turns to dust. Some spirits go up and some spirits go down like beasts it says. Why are spirits separated into 2 different places? No it doesn't. It says "Who knows if the spirit of people rises upward and the spirit of animals goes downward to the earth?". It is asking the question of whether there really are 2 different places for the spirit to go. It is an expression of skepticism, of doubt. So maybe "rejects" is the wrong word. I should have said "The Old Testament doubts heaven and hell in Ecclesiastes 3:18-22.". If there is no hell, Christianity must be a universalist creed where all get to heaven. Right? Regards DL
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Post by greatestiam on Jul 20, 2020 17:43:36 GMT
Is Yahweh breaking an objective moral tenet? I have found few examples of an objective moral tenet but think that, --- the good of the many, outweighs the good of the few, --- to be an objective moral tenet. It seems correct in all situations. You might disagree with an example where this tenet is not objective or applicable. Yahweh seems to put the good of the few ahead of the good of the many. Scriptures indicate that the many will end in hell while the few will end in heaven. In thinking of this, I also thought that Yahweh was breaking another moral tenet by putting his life above his own child’s. He sent Jesus to die instead of stepping up himself, to appease his own wrath against man. Should fathers put themselves and their lives above their children’s, or should fathers protect their children at all costs? I know that few like to answer moral questions as we all have a bit of moral coward in us. Do try to answer both of my questions please. Regards DL when a father brings an addition to the world...i've always wondered what it meant for a father to be truly proud of his son. is there a dark veil philosophically there?...fathers must be guiding their sons...not dismiss them... and at the very least, at least effectively helping their sons out and other ways in the name of effeciency of helping anyone...in the name of philosophy and a good life. like for example...telling them to choose their friends well for maybe even contact purposes for businesses and especially when they grow older. speaking of philosophically helping their children...what they can teach...they should. if i had a son...it would be an honor...i have a feeling their would be a special bond because the nice nature of my family. to be philosophically nice is important...underlyingly... it's a big responsibility...i heard rumors, it's the hardest job in the world. there may not be very many similarities to assume but...i'm sure it's not easy. Nothing can be hard for a god can it? So why did Yahweh not do the right thing and teach that a good father will die for his son? Regards DL
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 20, 2020 18:15:19 GMT
Never, unless they only love themselves. Good thing Jesus was willing to die for the people and it's good some did notice His love for them! Yes, sir, and I'm glad Jesus has my back always. Better than all earthly parents too who are mediocre at best. Been reading too much of parents killing their kids on the news lately. But I think we're on the same page about how a father should be! Thanks for agreeing that Yahweh is less of a parent than you are. I don't know why you made a reference to support the opposite choice by giving us Jesus choice, which you think he volunteered for when he was chosen. It is hard when you see what kind of prick you adore. Regards DL I see you missread that as usual. Here's easy clarification. 1. I'm not a parent 2. God is better than all parents
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Post by greatestiam on Jul 21, 2020 18:07:44 GMT
I see you missread that as usual. Here's easy clarification. 1. I'm not a parent 2. God is better than all parents So all parents should choose to have their child murdered instead of stepping up themselves. Thank god your not a parent. Regards DL
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 21, 2020 18:12:55 GMT
I see you missread that as usual. Here's easy clarification. 1. I'm not a parent 2. God is better than all parents So all parents should choose to have their child murdered instead of stepping up themselves. Thank god your not a parent. Regards DL Did you learn as a child to twist people's words and make up stuff? . It's rather hilarious. God hasn't killed anyone if you were old enough to read and comprehend you'll see that all the people that ever ecisted are either alive on Earth, or alive in heaven, or alive in hell. Sad as it seems...even though some may want to forever terminate someone's existence...it's not possible. Cheers.
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