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Post by Lone Wanderer on Apr 25, 2020 4:25:43 GMT
And sends all Christians to heaven?  |
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 25, 2020 7:05:11 GMT
Yes to title question because they didn't proclaim to be in heaven, to spend enternity with God, etc.
No to post question because the word Christian is too broad nowadays and anyone can be "Christian" just by claiming to be. :/
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 25, 2020 8:07:25 GMT
If most modern Christians go to heaven, I would rather go to hell to avoid them.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Apr 25, 2020 9:23:13 GMT
29. For our God is a consuming fire.
(Hebrews 12:29)
All people are good but all people are sinful, a man who is wholly in sins simply cannot live in the Divine Presence.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 26, 2020 4:12:13 GMT
Good people do not exist. We are all guilty. Only those covered by the blood of Jesus will go to heaven.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Apr 26, 2020 4:13:02 GMT
That is what the Christians book tells them. That is one of (if not my biggest) issue with Christianity. The most evil thing about the god of the Christian Bible isn't the killing of people but the sending of billions to Hell to suffer for eternity simply because they didn't follow him, or because they lusted, or were a thief, or were homosexual, or whatever. That isn’t to say that certain “sins” don’t deserve a punishment but that punishment being sent to suffer for eternity in the land of fire and brimstone/lake of burning fire is evil and ridiculous. Anyone who claims to love a god such as this is either fearful of hell or deluded or both.
That is why even if god were a tangible visible being who actually showed us he was capable of anything and everything, I would still never worship him. Instead, I would fight him with all my power.
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Post by greatestiam on May 5, 2020 13:09:36 GMT
Yes to title question because they didn't proclaim to be in heaven, to spend enternity with God, etc. No to post question because the word Christian is too broad nowadays and anyone can be "Christian" just by claiming to be. :/ If we go by the standard Jesus set for those of faith or belief, how many Christians do you know? I do not know of any that live up to what Jesus said they could do. Not to be critical, but Jesus would call all so called Christians liars and hypocrites. Regards DL |
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Post by greatestiam on May 5, 2020 13:16:05 GMT
And sends all Christians to heaven? If a god has to create a hell for those he created defective and unable to get to their best possible end, then why call such an incompetent creator god? All Christians who plan on using Jesus as their scapegoat and savior, will end in hell because of the immoral nature of substitutional punishment. They plan to abdicate their own responsibility for their sins and that is clearly immoral. It is all a myth, but look at how many Christians are thinking immoral garbage because of it. One would feel sorry for them if they were not so recalcitrant and obtuse. Faith is not wanting to face the truth. Regards DL |
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Post by greatestiam on May 5, 2020 13:18:39 GMT
If most modern Christians go to heaven, I would rather go to hell to avoid them. Why? Do the more enlightened like yourself not have a duty to society to try to have them think in a more moral and sane way? I am here to do just that, even while knowing that most will not think in a moral way. Regards DL |
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Post by greatestiam on May 5, 2020 13:25:15 GMT
29. For our God is a consuming fire.(Hebrews 12:29) All people are good but all people are sinful, a man who is wholly in sins simply cannot live in the Divine Presence. You are a liar, unless you can show how you can know that your restriction on god is true. 7 the hand lies are still lies. Your own bible contradicts you by saying your genocidal god is omni-present. You also ignore Job 2;3 that has god admitting to being moved by Satan to sin and do harm without a just cause. If you are correct, Yahweh cannot stand in his own vile presence. Regards DL |
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Post by greatestiam on May 5, 2020 13:29:59 GMT
Good people do not exist. We are all guilty. Only those covered by the blood of Jesus will go to heaven. That is not what scriptures say. They say that we are all saved, unless you think god cannot do what he wills to do. Meet me here if you want to chat on that so as not to derail here. arktos.boards.net/thread/5737/yahweh-wills-people-thwartRegards DL |
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Post by greatestiam on May 5, 2020 13:34:56 GMT
That is what the Christians book tells them. That is one of (if not my biggest) issue with Christianity. The most evil thing about the god of the Christian Bible isn't the killing of people but the sending of billions to Hell to suffer for eternity simply because they didn't follow him, or because they lusted, or were a thief, or were homosexual, or whatever. That isn’t to say that certain “sins” don’t deserve a punishment but that punishment being sent to suffer for eternity in the land of fire and brimstone/lake of burning fire is evil and ridiculous. Anyone who claims to love a god such as this is either fearful of hell or deluded or both. That is why even if god were a tangible visible being who actually showed us he was capable of anything and everything, I would still never worship him. Instead, I would fight him with all my power. You must have been booted out of many religious forums. Many do not like the truth when spoken by a man with a moral sense. I too have a bullet with Yahweh's vile name on it should that moral satanic monster happen to show his face. Apologies to Satan. She is a lot better than Yahweh. Regards DL |
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Post by Elizabeth on May 7, 2020 23:02:05 GMT
Yes to title question because they didn't proclaim to be in heaven, to spend enternity with God, etc. No to post question because the word Christian is too broad nowadays and anyone can be "Christian" just by claiming to be. :/ If we go by the standard Jesus set for those of faith or belief, how many Christians do you know? I do not know of any that live up to what Jesus said they could do. Not to be critical, but Jesus would call all so called Christians liars and hypocrites. Regards DL That's an easy answer. Jesus says a few are chosen in the bible. The rest are either liars or hypocrites or not Christian. So, Jesus explained this in the bible. |
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Post by greatestiam on May 9, 2020 15:40:20 GMT
If we go by the standard Jesus set for those of faith or belief, how many Christians do you know? I do not know of any that live up to what Jesus said they could do. Not to be critical, but Jesus would call all so called Christians liars and hypocrites. Regards DL That's an easy answer. Jesus says a few are chosen in the bible. The rest are either liars or hypocrites or not Christian. So, Jesus explained this in the bible. Sure few are chosen, so few that there is no one that has ever popped up after Jesus supposedly died. Not even you. Right? Regards DL |
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Post by Elizabeth on May 9, 2020 17:40:54 GMT
That's an easy answer. Jesus says a few are chosen in the bible. The rest are either liars or hypocrites or not Christian. So, Jesus explained this in the bible. Sure few are chosen, so few that there is no one that has ever popped up after Jesus supposedly died. Not even you. Right? Regards DL Wrong. You need to read actually not put in opinion. Jesus says He's returning for His people. They still exist otherwise He wouldn't be returning for them. Then ones will go one the left side and ones will go on the right because His people will be separate from the rest. Gonna be amazing! |
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