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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 11, 2020 21:28:43 GMT
What's the worst traditions (perhaps national, or cultural) do you know? If such traditions are alive, should they be removed?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 29, 2020 3:04:53 GMT
I agree with you from what i've seen of Indian history and ethnography that India is an artificial creation of the British empire. There are many places where the borders do not map well with the cultural reality of the area and the national identity of the country in question is based on a falsehood. My country the United States is one such country. Before the United States of America became one country it was 13 British colonies that were hugging the Atlantic coast of North America. These colonies were founded at different times by different groups of people. The origin story we are told about the Puritans coming on the Mayflower really only applied to New England. My state South Carolina was founded as an extension of the slave colonies of the Caribbean (especially Barbados) and was and still is culturally opposed to New England and greater New England in every way. The Puritans, the Dutch, the Quakers, the Scots Irish, The Royalist Cavaliers, the Anglo Caribbean slavers, the French, and the Spanish all settled certain areas of the United States and created distinct regional cultures (what you would call "nations" in the old world) in what is now the United States. The only reason that the 13 colonies banded together under one government was because they were afraid of being conquered by the British, French, or Spanish empire if they stayed independent from one another. However before the Civil War people still identified with their state rather than with the United States as a whole and the differences between Americans were known and written about. Everyone knew that the Puritanical Yankees, the Scots Irish crackers, the slave holding cavaliers and the like were different than one another and as Robert Barnwell Rhett wrote, there was no such thing as the American people. Then the Civil War happened and the Puritan Yankees basically invented an American identity that glorified their own culture as the culture of everyone and forced their hegemony on everyone else. Thus certain Yankee notions like American exceptionalism (which comes from the Puritan notion that the Puritans were God's chosen people spread to the rest of America), Manifest destiny (comes from the Puritan notion that God has given his chosen people this land), White Anglo Saxon Protestant identity and supremacy, the protestant work ethic, Hamiltonianism, origin myths regarding the Mayflower Thanksgiving and the Boston tea party, the hailing of New England literature written by Nathaniel Hawthorne, Ralph Waldo Emerson, David Henry Thoreau, Walt Whitman and others as "the national literature" (to the point where when I took an "American literature class" in college they scant talked about anyone else but New Englanders despite us being in the south and some of the greatest writers like Faulkner, Tennessee Williams, Flannery O'Connor, William Gilmore Simms, and the like not to mention Edgar Allen Poe and Mark Twain being from the south), the idea of the melting pot (which was a Yankee remedy to non Anglo Saxon Protestants entering their lands for assimilating them into their culture, and even the pledge of allegiance which was written by a New England socialist, became quintessentially "American." Now don't take this as an attack upon Yankees though the secularized version of their former Puritanism has become the cancerous SJW leftism of today. I admire a lot about their culture (or at least an older version of their culture before they went full retard) but they need to leave the south alone. Living in a country that is divided between different cultures which are diametrically opposed to one another like India or the United States can lead to tension and polarization. Best to split the country apart according to these cultures so that one does not interfere with the other. Good fences make good neighbors as the saying goes. The only problem is that my country is the world superpower right now and breaking it apart might lead to economic disaster, world instability, and the rise of tyrannical China as the world hegemon. My solution to this problem then is decentralization in my country. Let the states run themselves. Let Texas run Texas without interference from California and vice versa. Let the powers of the Federal Government be limited and let the states run themselves. Basically import the Swiss model to the United States. I don't understand, how can all those groups be considered as ANGLO SAXON aristocrat.Definitely, spanish medditernean are not even closer to french normans or teutonic knights? So this caste phenomenon is prevalent in america too, of course, indian constitution has been drafted or moulded on the basis of american constitutition, because the one who framed it, studied from columbia university, which happens to be an IVY LEAGUE, controlled by WASPS. Same thing came here also, under the garb of caste system, where anyone, who happens to have some aristocratic position were moulded as brahmins, thinking that all brahmins would be same. They never checked FACES of BRAHMINS though. Well that's the thing, many of them weren't, especially the Spanish speaking area in question which was near the US/Mexico border. Those people aren't even white and existed as an oppressed underclass in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern California where they reside. These people were a part of Northern Mexican Norteno culture and were brought into the United States by the conquest from Mexico of the American southwest. The idea that Americans as a whole were part of a superior Anglo Saxon race was a myth that brought the North and the South together after the Civil War and originated with the New England Yankee WASPs but appealed to white supremacist southerners as well. Even the Scots Irish of the Upper South were counted as good Anglo Saxons (which is true actually. The Scots Irish come from Lowland Scotland which is the Anglo Saxon part of Scotland rather than the Gaelic highlands). This idea of Anglo Saxon Nordic superiority caused Americans especially New Englanders to discriminate against Eastern and Southern Europeans as inferior Slavic and Mediterranean races and our immigration system under Calvin Coolidge a Vermont Yankee restricted immigration to only Northwestern Europeans. The deep Puritan protestantism of the Yankees also caused them to harshly discriminate against the Irish because of their Catholicism. Eventually though Yankees lost the demographic battle in their region and found themselves outnumbered by white ethnics so they used the melting pot idea to assimilate these people into Yankee Wasp culture. They just made more Yankees. This can be seen in the Kennedy family. John F. Kennedy was an Irish Catholic but there was absolutely nothing culturally that separated him from the Yankee WASP elite. Regarding the caste system. The hard wired racial caste system was really a southern thing that originated with the institution of slavery both in the south and in Latin America. In the North there weren't a lot of blacks until the early 20th century. You mentioned that the Indian constitution was framed by someone who went to Columbia University a WASP Ivy League school. Yep, most of our Ivy League schools Harvard, Yale, Brown, UC Berkeley etc. are in places settled by New Englanders originally, the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and West coast. Yankees put a heavy emphasis on education and intellectualism and they really control the education system in the United States and probably always have. These areas are also the areas where this new Social Justice Warrior phenomenon is most prominent. The SJWs are just Puritans with a new atheistic leftist religion. Also, another fun fact about the Yankees. Their elite in Boston called themselves Brahmins as well. They even have their own (very British sounding) accent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 11:15:49 GMT
I don't understand, how can all those groups be considered as ANGLO SAXON aristocrat.Definitely, spanish medditernean are not even closer to french normans or teutonic knights? So this caste phenomenon is prevalent in america too, of course, indian constitution has been drafted or moulded on the basis of american constitutition, because the one who framed it, studied from columbia university, which happens to be an IVY LEAGUE, controlled by WASPS. Same thing came here also, under the garb of caste system, where anyone, who happens to have some aristocratic position were moulded as brahmins, thinking that all brahmins would be same. They never checked FACES of BRAHMINS though. Well that's the thing, many of them weren't, especially the Spanish speaking area in question which was near the US/Mexico border. Those people aren't even white and existed as an oppressed underclass in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern California where they reside. These people were a part of Northern Mexican Norteno culture and were brought into the United States by the conquest from Mexico of the American southwest. The idea that Americans as a whole were part of a superior Anglo Saxon race was a myth that brought the North and the South together after the Civil War and originated with the New England Yankee WASPs but appealed to white supremacist southerners as well. Even the Scots Irish of the Upper South were counted as good Anglo Saxons (which is true actually. The Scots Irish come from Lowland Scotland which is the Anglo Saxon part of Scotland rather than the Gaelic highlands). This idea of Anglo Saxon Nordic superiority caused Americans especially New Englanders to discriminate against Eastern and Southern Europeans as inferior Slavic and Mediterranean races and our immigration system under Calvin Coolidge a Vermont Yankee restricted immigration to only Northwestern Europeans. The deep Puritan protestantism of the Yankees also caused them to harshly discriminate against the Irish because of their Catholicism. Eventually though Yankees lost the demographic battle in their region and found themselves outnumbered by white ethnics so they used the melting pot idea to assimilate these people into Yankee Wasp culture. They just made more Yankees. This can be seen in the Kennedy family. John F. Kennedy was an Irish Catholic but there was absolutely nothing culturally that separated him from the Yankee WASP elite. Regarding the caste system. The hard wired racial caste system was really a southern thing that originated with the institution of slavery both in the south and in Latin America. In the North there weren't a lot of blacks until the early 20th century.You mentioned that the Indian constitution was framed by someone who went to Columbia University a WASP Ivy League school. Yep, most of our Ivy League schools Harvard, Yale, Brown, UC Berkeley etc. are in places settled by New Englanders originally, the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and West coast. Yankees put a heavy emphasis on education and intellectualism and they really control the education system in the United States and probably always have. These areas are also the areas where this new Social Justice Warrior phenomenon is most prominent. The SJWs are just Puritans with a new atheistic leftist religion. Also, another fun fact about the Yankees. Their elite in Boston called themselves Brahmins as well. They even have their own (very British sounding) accent. This, this has been my own observation, that caste or FEUDAL HEREDITARY is actually a SOUTHERN THING, and is a MEDDITERNEAN PHENOMENON while NORTHERNERS tradition has been WAR LIKE PHENOMENON. Most of the southern regions have some common traits: > They go to school, university > They would slave hard and earn money, deposit money in banks, give it to family etc > Then they would join a democratic politics. > They are very religious, and follow an idol form of god, probably, in europe, it's christ who bust they worship, indian southereners have many tribals as gods. > They form their own mythologies, by copy pasting from others. > They also have a tendency to be clubbed amongst NEGRITO STOCK, but will never accept that their dark skinned mothers were R##$ by NORTHERN INVADERS, otherwise, why do these southereners have some tall height?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 11:22:04 GMT
I don't understand, how can all those groups be considered as ANGLO SAXON aristocrat.Definitely, spanish medditernean are not even closer to french normans or teutonic knights? So this caste phenomenon is prevalent in america too, of course, indian constitution has been drafted or moulded on the basis of american constitutition, because the one who framed it, studied from columbia university, which happens to be an IVY LEAGUE, controlled by WASPS. Same thing came here also, under the garb of caste system, where anyone, who happens to have some aristocratic position were moulded as brahmins, thinking that all brahmins would be same. They never checked FACES of BRAHMINS though. Well that's the thing, many of them weren't, especially the Spanish speaking area in question which was near the US/Mexico border. Those people aren't even white and existed as an oppressed underclass in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern California where they reside. These people were a part of Northern Mexican Norteno culture and were brought into the United States by the conquest from Mexico of the American southwest. The idea that Americans as a whole were part of a superior Anglo Saxon race was a myth that brought the North and the South together after the Civil War and originated with the New England Yankee WASPs but appealed to white supremacist southerners as well. Even the Scots Irish of the Upper South were counted as good Anglo Saxons (which is true actually. The Scots Irish come from Lowland Scotland which is the Anglo Saxon part of Scotland rather than the Gaelic highlands). This idea of Anglo Saxon Nordic superiority caused Americans especially New Englanders to discriminate against Eastern and Southern Europeans as inferior Slavic and Mediterranean races and our immigration system under Calvin Coolidge a Vermont Yankee restricted immigration to only Northwestern Europeans. The deep Puritan protestantism of the Yankees also caused them to harshly discriminate against the Irish because of their Catholicism. Eventually though Yankees lost the demographic battle in their region and found themselves outnumbered by white ethnics so they used the melting pot idea to assimilate these people into Yankee Wasp culture. They just made more Yankees. This can be seen in the Kennedy family. John F. Kennedy was an Irish Catholic but there was absolutely nothing culturally that separated him from the Yankee WASP elite. Regarding the caste system. The hard wired racial caste system was really a southern thing that originated with the institution of slavery both in the south and in Latin America. In the North there weren't a lot of blacks until the early 20th century. You mentioned that the Indian constitution was framed by someone who went to Columbia University a WASP Ivy League school. Yep, most of our Ivy League schools Harvard, Yale, Brown, UC Berkeley etc. are in places settled by New Englanders originally, the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and West coast. Yankees put a heavy emphasis on education and intellectualism and they really control the education system in the United States and probably always have. These areas are also the areas where this new Social Justice Warrior phenomenon is most prominent. The SJWs are just Puritans with a new atheistic leftist religion.
Also, another fun fact about the Yankees. Their elite in Boston called themselves Brahmins as well. They even have their own (very British sounding) accent. Yes, this is the person, he studied from columbia, which is WASP IVY en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._AmbedkarI guess berkeley is an university of a typical geeky white/caucasian boy, but not an ivy leauge, i mean, if one is a genius, berkeley offers full scholarship and even doles out post doctoral position, if I am not wrong, and needs high SAT score to get into their program. Ivy leauges are based more on connections Yes, exactly, same like WASPs, even the old brahmin culture was same: > Emphasis on BOOKISH EDUCATION, while traders are making money here, which means, we have to slave them and die. > No war culture, don't join police force etc, while the non brahmins are busy acquiring arms, gusn, weapons to kill us, but our parents are happy following their culture. > To make matters worse, the reservation, but going by your talks, it appears that reservation in India has come from american system, to reserve spaces for blacks and colored and slaves and whosoever, the so called anglo saxons puritans would call as oppressed miniority. We may be separated by GEOGRAPHY, but not by the CULTURE AND TRADITIONS.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 12:18:16 GMT
@clovis Merovingian
I know about that BOSTON BRAHMIN group, and even QUAKER tradition were rooted from this.
When I came to bengaluru, some European type culture was present here, and one them happens to be an Old dying british culture, so I used to see lot of anglophiles here, going to church every Sunday, doing carols etc, this sort of non indian culture was long time back here, though, now it's all dead here. But it was really peaceful here.
The question is, why are these people hell bent on applying to a particualr CLASS/CASTE, and what objective they achieve? Someone's success in life is neither based on ancestry, nor on caste, nor how his family members were, even that gets negated, but completely based on his own destiny, and skills.
Same thing happens in India also, the entire hinduism has been moulded on the basis of BRAHMINOCRACY.
And it is making a come back again, here under BJP's rule
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 30, 2020 3:18:17 GMT
Well that's the thing, many of them weren't, especially the Spanish speaking area in question which was near the US/Mexico border. Those people aren't even white and existed as an oppressed underclass in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern California where they reside. These people were a part of Northern Mexican Norteno culture and were brought into the United States by the conquest from Mexico of the American southwest. The idea that Americans as a whole were part of a superior Anglo Saxon race was a myth that brought the North and the South together after the Civil War and originated with the New England Yankee WASPs but appealed to white supremacist southerners as well. Even the Scots Irish of the Upper South were counted as good Anglo Saxons (which is true actually. The Scots Irish come from Lowland Scotland which is the Anglo Saxon part of Scotland rather than the Gaelic highlands). This idea of Anglo Saxon Nordic superiority caused Americans especially New Englanders to discriminate against Eastern and Southern Europeans as inferior Slavic and Mediterranean races and our immigration system under Calvin Coolidge a Vermont Yankee restricted immigration to only Northwestern Europeans. The deep Puritan protestantism of the Yankees also caused them to harshly discriminate against the Irish because of their Catholicism. Eventually though Yankees lost the demographic battle in their region and found themselves outnumbered by white ethnics so they used the melting pot idea to assimilate these people into Yankee Wasp culture. They just made more Yankees. This can be seen in the Kennedy family. John F. Kennedy was an Irish Catholic but there was absolutely nothing culturally that separated him from the Yankee WASP elite. Regarding the caste system. The hard wired racial caste system was really a southern thing that originated with the institution of slavery both in the south and in Latin America. In the North there weren't a lot of blacks until the early 20th century.You mentioned that the Indian constitution was framed by someone who went to Columbia University a WASP Ivy League school. Yep, most of our Ivy League schools Harvard, Yale, Brown, UC Berkeley etc. are in places settled by New Englanders originally, the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and West coast. Yankees put a heavy emphasis on education and intellectualism and they really control the education system in the United States and probably always have. These areas are also the areas where this new Social Justice Warrior phenomenon is most prominent. The SJWs are just Puritans with a new atheistic leftist religion. Also, another fun fact about the Yankees. Their elite in Boston called themselves Brahmins as well. They even have their own (very British sounding) accent. This, this has been my own observation, that caste or FEUDAL HEREDITARY is actually a SOUTHERN THING, and is a MEDDITERNEAN PHENOMENON Yes, the plantation system that defined negro slavery started among Mediterraneans enslaving Arabs on sugar plantations during the crusades moved to Mediterranean Islands off the coast of Europe and Africa under the Portuguese, Spanish, and Italians, and then moved to the New World through Portugal and after that from Portugal by way of the Dutch who conquered Brazil to Barbados. And of course it moved from Barbados to my state of South Carolina. So there's a direct line of descent from Mediterranean peoples from the crusader states to my region the Deep South. A good book on this is by southern nationalist Michael Cushman called Our Southern Nation it's Origin and its Future which traces this in detail.
The American South used to be the North of a multinational plantation civilization the stretched from the north of Brazil through Central America and the Caribbean all the way into the old Confederate States of America and the south in many respects is closer to Latin America in its sensibilities than the rest of the United States.
while NORTHERNERS tradition has been WAR LIKE PHENOMENON. The south is actually the most warlike region of the United States. It was settled by the British Norman warrior aristocratic class in the Lower south and the Border Scots in the Upper South and leads the nation in both state sponsored and private criminal violence in the country. The south is very overrepresented in the United States military and has always produced the best generals and warriors. Whenever there's a war in the United States the south always almost unanimously supports it and sends their sons in large numbers to fight.
During the Civil War the south had better warriors but outnumbered by the Union army by a massive amount especially when you see that slaves were not allowed to fight for the Confederacy. The Union was also industrialized while the south was still agrarian so the Union had a massive technological advantage as well. Even considering these massive disadvantages the south lasted four years in the war and there were many points where south could have won the war. Most of the southern regions have some common traits: > They go to school, university The south is the less educated part of the Union and usually have less degrees that the regions settled by New Englanders.> They would slave hard and earn money, deposit money in banks, give it to family etc Yes.> Then they would join a democratic politics. The Upper South the "Greater Appalachian" section settled by the Scots Irish are probably the most pro democracy people in the United States, very anti elitist, populist, very anti government as well. The Lower South the "Deep South" and the "Tidewater" have historically been very oligarchic in politics like Latin America.> They are very religious, and follow an idol form of god, probably, in europe, it's christ who bust they worship, indian southerners have many tribals as gods. Southerners are VERY religious but there religion is protestant fundamentalism which rejects engraven images.> They form their own mythologies, by copy pasting from others. I don't what is meant by mythologies here but we have something called the Lost Cause myth which glorifies the Confederacy so there's that> They also have a tendency to be clubbed amongst NEGRITO STOCK, but will never accept that their dark skinned mothers were R##$ by NORTHERN INVADERS, otherwise, why do these southereners have some tall height? There are a lot of black people in the Lower South obviously but the whites are still pretty white because of the one drop rule. The blacks however have about a fourth white ancestry for many reasons. I guess you could say we are the Northern Invaders coming from Northern Europe originally.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 30, 2020 5:57:57 GMT
Clovis MerovingianI see that the descendants of the Templars created America. Some Templars fled to Scotland ... many years later, the Scottish Masonic Order arose which emigrated to America and so on.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 30, 2020 6:08:18 GMT
Clovis Merovingian I see that the descendants of the Templars created America. Some Templars fled to Scotland ... many years later, the Scottish Masonic Order arose which emigrated to America and so on. My grandfather was a Mason interestingly enough. As I understand it some Templars fled to Switzerland as well and the Swiss flag is an inverted Templar symbol. Yeah, when talking about the Crusader states and their influence I was talking about the plantation system in which blacks were enslaved under in the New World can trace its origins back to the Christian states in the Middle East where they enslaved Arabs to grow sugar on plantations. The "Golden Circle" plantation civilization that stretched from Northern Brazil to the American South has its origins in the Crusades in the primordial sense. But yeah there has been a lot of secret societies in the US in which the elites frequent but i'm not a conspiracy theorist and I don't know what's going on there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 7:17:53 GMT
This, this has been my own observation, that caste or FEUDAL HEREDITARY is actually a SOUTHERN THING, and is a MEDDITERNEAN PHENOMENON Yes, the plantation system that defined negro slavery started among Mediterraneans enslaving Arabs on sugar plantations during the crusades moved to Mediterranean Islands off the coast of Europe and Africa under the Portuguese, Spanish, and Italians, and then moved to the New World through Portugal and after that from Portugal by way of the Dutch who conquered Brazil to Barbados. And of course it moved from Barbados to my state of South Carolina. So there's a direct line of descent from Mediterranean peoples from the crusader states to my region the Deep South. A good book on this is by southern nationalist Michael Cushman called Our Southern Nation it's Origin and its Future which traces this in detail.
The American South used to be the North of a multinational plantation civilization the stretched from the north of Brazil through Central America and the Caribbean all the way into the old Confederate States of America and the south in many respects is closer to Latin America in its sensibilities than the rest of the United States.
while NORTHERNERS tradition has been WAR LIKE PHENOMENON. The south is actually the most warlike region of the United States. It was settled by the British Norman warrior aristocratic class in the Lower south and the Border Scots in the Upper South and leads the nation in both state sponsored and private criminal violence in the country. The south is very overrepresented in the United States military and has always produced the best generals and warriors. Whenever there's a war in the United States the south always almost unanimously supports it and sends their sons in large numbers to fight.
During the Civil War the south had better warriors but outnumbered by the Union army by a massive amount especially when you see that slaves were not allowed to fight for the Confederacy. The Union was also industrialized while the south was still agrarian so the Union had a massive technological advantage as well. Even considering these massive disadvantages the south lasted four years in the war and there were many points where south could have won the war. Most of the southern regions have some common traits: > They go to school, university The south is the less educated part of the Union and usually have less degrees that the regions settled by New Englanders.> They would slave hard and earn money, deposit money in banks, give it to family etc Yes.> Then they would join a democratic politics. The Upper South the "Greater Appalachian" section settled by the Scots Irish are probably the most pro democracy people in the United States, very anti elitist, populist, very anti government as well. The Lower South the "Deep South" and the "Tidewater" have historically been very oligarchic in politics like Latin America.> They are very religious, and follow an idol form of god, probably, in europe, it's christ who bust they worship, indian southerners have many tribals as gods. Southerners are VERY religious but there religion is protestant fundamentalism which rejects engraven images.> They form their own mythologies, by copy pasting from others. I don't what is meant by mythologies here but we have something called the Lost Cause myth which glorifies the Confederacy so there's that> They also have a tendency to be clubbed amongst NEGRITO STOCK, but will never accept that their dark skinned mothers were R##$ by NORTHERN INVADERS, otherwise, why do these southereners have some tall height? There are a lot of black people in the Lower South obviously but the whites are still pretty white because of the one drop rule. The blacks however have about a fourth white ancestry for many reasons. I guess you could say we are the Northern Invaders coming from Northern Europe originally.Those two points summarises the entire crux, that who has made USA, norman warriors who inhabited british. scottish-irish immigrants must have been called into these regions for their skills, as they are very good with machines etc, if I am not wrong. Quarter ancestry proportion will not change the races. Many castizos of latin america have native female ancestry, but on an average, they still have that medditernean tan in them. Actually, I still believe, that this caste system is not a trait of WARRIOR people, but more or less, a characteristic of sedantery people. I still don't understand why Indian republic has been formed on the basis of caste ideology
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 6:47:56 GMT
This, this has been my own observation, that caste or FEUDAL HEREDITARY is actually a SOUTHERN THING, and is a MEDDITERNEAN PHENOMENON Yes, the plantation system that defined negro slavery started among Mediterraneans enslaving Arabs on sugar plantations during the crusades moved to Mediterranean Islands off the coast of Europe and Africa under the Portuguese, Spanish, and Italians, and then moved to the New World through Portugal and after that from Portugal by way of the Dutch who conquered Brazil to Barbados. And of course it moved from Barbados to my state of South Carolina. So there's a direct line of descent from Mediterranean peoples from the crusader states to my region the Deep South. A good book on this is by southern nationalist Michael Cushman called Our Southern Nation it's Origin and its Future which traces this in detail.
The American South used to be the North of a multinational plantation civilization the stretched from the north of Brazil through Central America and the Caribbean all the way into the old Confederate States of America and the south in many respects is closer to Latin America in its sensibilities than the rest of the United States.
while NORTHERNERS tradition has been WAR LIKE PHENOMENON. The south is actually the most warlike region of the United States. It was settled by the British Norman warrior aristocratic class in the Lower south and the Border Scots in the Upper South and leads the nation in both state sponsored and private criminal violence in the country. The south is very overrepresented in the United States military and has always produced the best generals and warriors. Whenever there's a war in the United States the south always almost unanimously supports it and sends their sons in large numbers to fight.
During the Civil War the south had better warriors but outnumbered by the Union army by a massive amount especially when you see that slaves were not allowed to fight for the Confederacy. The Union was also industrialized while the south was still agrarian so the Union had a massive technological advantage as well. Even considering these massive disadvantages the south lasted four years in the war and there were many points where south could have won the war. Most of the southern regions have some common traits: > They go to school, university The south is the less educated part of the Union and usually have less degrees that the regions settled by New Englanders.> They would slave hard and earn money, deposit money in banks, give it to family etc Yes.> Then they would join a democratic politics. The Upper South the "Greater Appalachian" section settled by the Scots Irish are probably the most pro democracy people in the United States, very anti elitist, populist, very anti government as well. The Lower South the "Deep South" and the "Tidewater" have historically been very oligarchic in politics like Latin America.> They are very religious, and follow an idol form of god, probably, in europe, it's christ who bust they worship, indian southerners have many tribals as gods. Southerners are VERY religious but there religion is protestant fundamentalism which rejects engraven images.> They form their own mythologies, by copy pasting from others. I don't what is meant by mythologies here but we have something called the Lost Cause myth which glorifies the Confederacy so there's that> They also have a tendency to be clubbed amongst NEGRITO STOCK, but will never accept that their dark skinned mothers were R##$ by NORTHERN INVADERS, otherwise, why do these southereners have some tall height? There are a lot of black people in the Lower South obviously but the whites are still pretty white because of the one drop rule. The blacks however have about a fourth white ancestry for many reasons. I guess you could say we are the Northern Invaders coming from Northern Europe originally.In my case, I don't know anything how why and when my own family went with Indian caste system, however, afte a painstaking study, what I have reazlied is this, that my male ancestors were some NOMADS, they had only two reasons to fight: acquiring lands and girls, which they got, after they anihilated the present king of that particualr kingdom which they invaded, and produced many MONGRELS, which I also one of them. Rest apart, I don't know, since when this culture, caste, education citizenship, trying to have some GK etc, even came into existence. Though, one thing is sure, we always have foreign genes in us. I many not be having the genes of europeans, but, I still have the genes of those foreign males, who invaded central asia. The pic itself is self explanatory that these people were foreigners, who killed the kings, and snatched their queens, princess,daughters, sisters etc upload photos free online
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Clovis Merovingian
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Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 2, 2020 22:17:47 GMT
In my case, I don't know anything how why and when my own family went with Indian caste system, however, afte a painstaking study, what I have reazlied is this, that my male ancestors were some NOMADS, they had only two reasons to fight: acquiring lands and girls, which they got, after they anihilated the present king of that particualr kingdom which they invaded, and produced many MONGRELS, which I also one of them. Rest apart, I don't know, since when this culture, caste, education citizenship, trying to have some GK etc, even came into existence. Though, one thing is sure, we always have foreign genes in us. I many not be having the genes of europeans, but, I still have the genes of those foreign males, who invaded central asia. The pic itself is self explanatory that these people were foreigners, who killed the kings, and snatched their queens, princess,daughters, sisters etc upload photos free onlineBeing a Mongrel is a good thing. It means you have a connection to many different peoples and cultures. In the United States even among old stock Americans like me, we are all mongrels and proud of the various ancestors from which we spring. Race is really not important though; it's just phenotypic traits that affect how you look appearance wise. What matters is culture because your culture besides your individual existence and quirks plays a huge part in who you are. Good cultural values in a society are more likely to produce decent people while bad cultural values are more likely to produce barbarians or degenerates or both. Also all old world peoples as well as new world ones are mongrels. Looking at Europe a Frenchmen is descended from the Romans, the Gauls, and the Franks a Latin, Celtic, and Germanic people respectively. The Germans are not one race being descended from Celts, Germans, and Slavs each in differing proportions depending on where you go Northward, Southward, and Eastward in the country, Englishmen are descended from Celtic Britons, Anglo Saxons, and Normans, the Scots are descended from Gaels, Britons, Angles, Norse, Normans and what have you depending on the region. Even Europeans that appear to have less foreign mixing like the Scandinavians or Irish have some foreign mixture. But an Irishmen is still an Irishman because he's culturally Irish, a German because he's culturally German, as it is with any ethnic group.
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