Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jan 30, 2020 4:20:49 GMT
The civilization known as the "West" usually refers to Western Europe and some of her colonies, specifically the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. I think this classification is kind of dumb and a relic of the Cold War which was split between a capitalist west and a communist east that included most of Eastern Europe with the rest being the third world to the West's "first world" and the east's "second world." Under such a concept Latin America would not be part of the West.
By the "West" here I basically just mean European civilization which for me would include all of Europe including Russia as well as the colonies and ethnic groups where European culture is dominant. Under this definition would you include Latin Americans as a part of the West? I do as the only reason they seem to be excluded is because they're poor and have a bunch of people that aren't white. I see no contradiction in this as Europeans have been poor for most of their history and culture doesn't not map well to race.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 30, 2020 9:00:53 GMT
Yes
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 30, 2020 14:02:00 GMT
That is pretty dumb. On the map we have all of Europe on the east so not sure where it is split in two making western Europe part of the west. North America and South America are on the west based on the map though.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 31, 2020 19:54:41 GMT
This is not clever for certain, while the usage of the terms still might have some profits during some peculiar conversations. As today's fashion is not on the "West" side, if one is hunted to be ashamed and accused - one is more likely to be called "a west minded man" or "a west culture man" in case one has some links with "the west".
Briefly, "west" is pejorative. Latin Amerika is not west, unless the majorities of Chilly, Brazil and Argentina become counter-leftists and anti-marxists. They don't; they aren't west.
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,689
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 27, 2020 2:33:33 GMT
That is pretty dumb. On the map we have all of Europe on the east so not sure where it is split in two making western Europe part of the west. North America and South America are on the west based on the map though. The term "Western Civilization" is a cultural term rather than a directional term and harkens back to the cold war where Eastern Europe was under the communist iron curtain and at odds with western Europe and the United States. It also harkens back to the split between the Western Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox church in the middle ages which was an east west split in Europe. However I don't see any reason to split Eastern Europe from Western Europe or its colonies as a broad cultural grouping. They are all European and share broad Indo European, Christian, Roman influenced (the Byzantine Romans influenced the east), and ancestral ties. I should have titled this thread as "do you consider Latin America as part of European civilization?" but the term western civilization is in common parlance. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 27, 2020 3:54:33 GMT
That is pretty dumb. On the map we have all of Europe on the east so not sure where it is split in two making western Europe part of the west. North America and South America are on the west based on the map though. The term "Western Civilization" is a cultural term rather than a directional term and harkens back to the cold war where Eastern Europe was under the communist iron curtain and at odds with western Europe and the United States. It also harkens back to the split between the Western Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox church in the middle ages which was an east west split in Europe. However I don't see any reason to split Eastern Europe from Western Europe or its colonies as a broad cultural grouping. They are all European and share broad Indo European, Christian, Roman influenced (the Byzantine Romans influenced the east), and ancestral ties. I should have titled this thread as "do you consider Latin America as part of European civilization?" but the term western civilization is in common parlance. Yeah...see....i don't know any of that history stuff and all. I just use the globe and see what's on the west side. But I agree with you on Europe. It shouldn't be split. I see no great benefit or anything from the split. |
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