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Post by Lone Wanderer on Oct 20, 2019 19:55:06 GMT
What are the most common myths and stereotypes about what Indians eat? The biggest myth, of course, is that India is a largely vegetarian country. But that's not the case at all. Past "non-serious" estimates have suggested that more than a third of Indians ate vegetarian food. If you go by three large-scale government surveys, 23%-37% of Indians are estimated to be vegetarian. By itself this is nothing remarkably revelatory. But new research by US-based anthropologist Balmurli Natrajan and India-based economist Suraj Jacob, points to a heap of evidence that even these are inflated estimations because of "cultural and political pressures". So people under-report eating meat - particularly beef - and over-report eating vegetarian food. Taking all this into account, say the researchers, only about 20% of Indians are actually vegetarian - much lower than common claims and stereotypes suggest.Hindus, who make up 80% of the Indian population, are major meat-eaters. Even only a third of the privileged, upper-caste Indians are vegetarian.The government data shows that vegetarian households have higher income and consumption - are more affluent than meat-eating households. The lower castes, Dalits (formerly known as untouchables) and tribes-people are mainly meat eaters. -- www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43581122 |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 3, 2019 8:55:03 GMT
lamburk(I tried to answer yesterday, but I had some problems with I-net connections, so I missed some good thoughts...) a. I consider that classes and individuals are both fake. To live single, or to live in masses is not a way out. Little communities like Arktos are good to live there. b. Males are always keeping it in their minds. It's a matter of instincts. But why breeding somewhere else is bad? I don't think so. Borders is what we've been claiming as it is; in reality there are no borders. Let's imagine, 4 example, that the Arktos is a land, and any marriages must be happened within exactly this community. Some time later we would be dealing with some serious troubles even in case if everything would be fine for a short period of time. My opinion in unclever decisions of those who practice breeding without any rational marriage positions. 4 example, hippie time (60-70's) was produced that " revolusion" movement where almost every follower of that hippie mentality were trying to take a part in orgies, in some weird companies, etc. The results of that are known now - AIDS and many mental disorders. So, facts are crying out of itself. c. I guess it does, while the Nature is what pushing us toward some strange things. I don't think that Nature is just a law. No. Or, at least, this law is so pretty hidden that our tries to get them in a moral sense happen almost unhappy. We don't know what Nature is trying to tell us, and we don't understand its intentions either. d. Unfortunately, they're not behaving. But we can't say that that's the way it is for any periods of time. There's no insurances it might happen today or tomorrow. We're just captured to this period of time. I think we should try to hold all that good that we can. What else can we do? There's nothing left. I hope for Nature's mercy. I believe that at least the one who doesn't lie to oneself must have a chance. (To the last comment) Britain. Yes, it seems so. But however it doesn't mean to give up. That was a test and I thought that Gandhi showed (for many races and folks) how to deal with it in a perfect way. Yes, they spread their language and culture toward many folks (not India only), but I have two opinions on that: a) We need to learn and rethink all that our destiny brought us. Taras Shevchenko, a ukrainian poet and writer, said: "Learn and read, learn from others and don't shun your own", and "Think and read / And to your neighbours' gifts pay heed / Yet do not thus neglect your own". b) Sooner or later everything goes to ruining itself. The process is really hard to be stopped, unless we know how to do it. Our knowledge is so poor, and the battle against the Nature is not easy to win. Aryans. I like this view too, 'cause it has some corresponds to mine. But it doesn't matter how far this feeling is, I'm sure that I must know how things near me are, or I should have some info about nowadays states of affairs in this World to get some encourage how to use them. I'm talking about an ability of being aware of current things. This is important for every century. Aryan culture gave many fruits we have to harvest and to accept correctly. Mercantile thinking people. Such people is a ruining machine. A soulless blind force. It's a disaster for any families or cultures. Today they don't know it, or they do not want to know it - they're trying to fill their stomachs and pockets, but it happens almost every time - if you don't do anything to be prepared - you're dead. Mercantile people are living corpses. It's just the same to hold a corpse in your refrigerator and to hold a mercantile person at your neighborhood. For me it's the same. That's why our basic instincts wishes should not barrier our real intentions.
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Post by jonbain on Nov 3, 2019 15:14:28 GMT
eugene Idea of India itself is non sensical, it's actually british who designed it. And to make matters worse, the post british polity did not anything good either. What they did was mythology, and have been making false proclamation that sanskrit is the national language, whereas, the language which became sanskrit was brought by a particular tribes of aryan society, related with central asia. This is where these people end up losing. There political system is based on false assumption, mythologies, and not on reality and facts. Similary, the aryan texts have ample references of cattle sacrifices, beef eating, and other such flesh eating activities, but the founding fathers have denounced everything. They even say non violence, where as, vedic literatures are filled with gory battles. The ruling classes were headed by mercantile minded people, and they just wanted to exploit everything, so fooled the common man here. And India has regressed a lot now in the past 60 years. Most societies are largely based on myth - but its often a crude pragmatical myth. With India's dense and large population it is just makes more logistical sense that requires them to be vegetarians. The only way this could be reversed is to impose something like China's one child policy. The world is fast reaching crisis point in terms of large population. It may have even reached tipping point into another world war over the last century - if it were not for radically improved farming methods based on deliberate selection of high-yielding seeds. Ironically this itself was sold under the myth of 'genetic modification' purely for reasons of bureaucracy and economic loop-holes in academia. |
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Post by ajay0 on Nov 4, 2019 7:40:53 GMT
It's hard to understand why Pakistani Hindus who have no idea of India or do not have any realistic chance of getting Indian citizenship keep on commenting on India as if they are born and bred Indian citizens for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 8:49:50 GMT
eugene Idea of India itself is non sensical, it's actually british who designed it. And to make matters worse, the post british polity did not anything good either. What they did was mythology, and have been making false proclamation that sanskrit is the national language, whereas, the language which became sanskrit was brought by a particular tribes of aryan society, related with central asia. This is where these people end up losing. There political system is based on false assumption, mythologies, and not on reality and facts. Similary, the aryan texts have ample references of cattle sacrifices, beef eating, and other such flesh eating activities, but the founding fathers have denounced everything. They even say non violence, where as, vedic literatures are filled with gory battles. The ruling classes were headed by mercantile minded people, and they just wanted to exploit everything, so fooled the common man here. And India has regressed a lot now in the past 60 years. With India's dense and large population it is just makes more logistical sense that requires them to be vegetarians. The only way this could be reversed is to impose something like China's one child policy. The world is fast reaching crisis point in terms of large population. It may have even reached tipping point into another world war over the last century - if it were not for radically improved farming methods based on deliberate selection of high-yielding seeds. Ironically this itself was sold under the myth of 'genetic modification' purely for reasons of bureaucracy and economic loop-holes in academia.
It's crystal clear about the history of various migrant groups such as mongol, turks, uzbeks , portugese, british.
However, there's no clarity about these Indian nationalists, who have not come up with a proper epistemology for the society called as hindus, because, that word don't exist in the texts of aryans. It was persian darius who labelled the term which mahmud of ghaznavid had outright anger on the people of subcontinent.
Now, this caste system which constitution has kept, was brought was anglo saxon hegemony, and in that, some people retained their lands and social class of brahmins. That was long time back. Many brahmins in today's time don't even resemble their three year old generation land lords now.
Over all, I would say, Indian society is defunct and defeatist. It's crawling, and with china rising, there's a major threat.
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Post by ajay0 on Nov 4, 2019 9:08:10 GMT
India's constitution was created by B.R.Ambedkar, who belonged to the lowest rungs of Indian feudal society, and yet climbed up through his own scholarship and perseverance to become India's first law minister and framed India's constitution which upholds liberty, fraternity and equality of all Indian citizens. Arya in Indian scriptures means the noble one or virtuous person. It has no reference to any racial affiliations in any Hindu or Buddhist scripture. India is the fastest growing major economy in the world at the moment, and the last two decades have seen the rise of many billionaires and millionaires in India. India is also the first country on earth to send a space probe to Mars in its first attempt called Mangalyaan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_MissionIt's space probe Chandrayaan was the first to detect widespread presence of water molecules in lunar soil. This was confirmed later on by Nasa. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrayaan-1All this shows that India has wedded its ancient civilization with modern science and technology. A large proportion of its 1.3 billion population are youthful, and this shows promise for the future. |
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Post by jonbain on Nov 4, 2019 21:34:10 GMT
Most societies are largely based on myth - but its often a crude pragmatical myth.With India's dense and large population it is just makes more logistical sense that requires them to be vegetarians. The only way this could be reversed is to impose something like China's one child policy. The world is fast reaching crisis point in terms of large population. It may have even reached tipping point into another world war over the last century - if it were not for radically improved farming methods based on deliberate selection of high-yielding seeds. Ironically this itself was sold under the myth of 'genetic modification' purely for reasons of bureaucracy and economic loop-holes in academia.
It's crystal clear about the history of various migrant groups such as mongol, turks, uzbeks , portugese, british.
However, there's no clarity about these Indian nationalists, who have not come up with a proper epistemology for the society called as hindus, because, that word don't exist in the texts of aryans. It was persian darius who labelled the term which mahmud of ghaznavid had outright anger on the people of subcontinent.
Now, this caste system which constitution has kept, was brought was anglo saxon hegemony, and in that, some people retained their lands and social class of brahmins. That was long time back. Many brahmins in today's time don't even resemble their three year old generation land lords now.
Over all, I would say, Indian society is defunct and defeatist. It's crawling, and with china rising, there's a major threat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 10:06:11 GMT
This is what has been happening here. The last time when talent was recognized in India, when Chanakya arose and collapsed a corrupt empire. And after this, greeks were driven out, because people were recognized based on their working potential, not through hereditary of castes
Ever since the rejected aryan druhuyus or dravida people have taken over, especially since the arrival of advaita philosopher, everything has gone in disarray here. They have completely anihilated entire working potential of people and this is the reason that why everyone accepts slavery happily here, because, even if you are capable to fight it out, your family members will not help you, will try to push you down.
To make matters worse, there's an aversion against working here. People think it's a disgrace to do a work, and everyone just want to get that aristocratic class positions.
The ruling classes themselves push this more, because, it ensures, that their corruption remains intact, because, how many people in India would even dissent? Those who stand up also, they just end up being loners.
Most of the people in India are nothing more than talkers, not doers. This gets reflected in every sphere of life.
And they have been proclaiming 5000 years old civilization, greatest civilization, where as population is struggling to even meet two times a food in a day. People really here an aversion towards reaching on top, because, as I have said, males have no manliness in them now. They are impotent, and most of them are liberal, feminists types.
India has no future.
The aristocrats' boarding schools and universities are the cradle of Communism, which appeals to a class of people who've been told by its fathers that it was born to rule. It has been a fraud from the beginning; discussing its insincere ideology distracts from the prosecution of its participants. The only thing that should be debated with them is the terms of their surrender. After the French Revolution, inheritarians were terrified that their unearned birth privileges would be abolished by a populist takeover, so some of them decided that the best strategy for survival would be to take over the democratic movements and betray them into a dictatorship run by their own spoiled and bossy clique. This took advantage of the remnants of slavish worship of the glitter and charisma of the young lords, the Prince Charmings, the Camelot dungheap. There is no such thing as "rich kids on our side"; such an idea is political suicide. you know what thesageofmainstreet , even my father, just because his own father happened to be an aristocrat, ended up feeding me with the SAME INDIAN CASTE GARBAGE, and to make matters WORSE, I TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY,and ended up finding a B#$#$. Isn't he also responsible for GIVING ME A FALSE KNOWLEDGE? This is the point here, why are these FALLEN DYNASTY STICKING TO A FAKE IDEOLOGY? These fathers have forgotten how their ancestors were viewed by people, and for what reasons they were considered as lords. IT was not birth, but because of WORK. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 10:15:41 GMT
Nice fantasies. 
I go by the history books.
HEIRHEADS HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXIST Histwhorey. It never teaches the democratic fact that America defeated the British in two wars solely because the guillotine-fodder aristocratic system only used a tiny percentage of the nation's military-leadership talent. Andrew Jackson, who defeated Wellington's division, would have never been allowed to become even the lowest-ranked officer in the British army. This is the most important idea of all time, yet it never makes into books the ruling class allows to be published. India was an even worse enemy of talent; that's why the British easily overran a people who outnumbered the Redcoats 10,000 to 1. Don't be a mind-slave for what lying historians tell us about intraclass conflict causing the conquest. Those academic bookworms are pseudo-intellectual slaveboys of plutocratic parasites. They'll even admit, in cases that don't threaten their Masters, that when one class achieves sole power, it starts to fight within itself. The first famous example was the absolute birth-class supremacy that was achieved when the patricians murdered the Gracchi; the civil wars won by the first two Caesars were the inevitable result. The same happened in Korea, which lost its independence for the first time in 2,000 years because of crushing a peasant revolt in the late 19th Century. Who was andrew jackson? could you please guide me on this. There was an officer named arthur wellesley, who overran the indian empire here, he too was duke of wellington. May be, because, of the ulster-scott and anglo sacndinavian bondage was far more tighter than the english speaking psuedo anglo saxons |
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Mar 7, 2020 18:52:36 GMT
Socialite Socialism
The aristocrats' boarding schools and universities are the cradle of Communism, which appeals to a class of people who've been told by its fathers that it was born to rule. It has been a fraud from the beginning; discussing its insincere ideology distracts from the prosecution of its participants. The only thing that should be debated with them is the terms of their surrender. After the French Revolution, inheritarians were terrified that their unearned birth privileges would be abolished by a populist takeover, so some of them decided that the best strategy for survival would be to take over the democratic movements and betray them into a dictatorship run by their own spoiled and bossy clique. This took advantage of the remnants of slavish worship of the glitter and charisma of the young lords, the Prince Charmings, the Camelot dungheap. There is no such thing as "rich kids on our side"; such an idea is political suicide. you know what thesageofmainstreet , even my father, just because his own father happened to be an aristocrat, ended up feeding me with the SAME INDIAN CASTE GARBAGE, and to make matters WORSE, I TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY,and ended up finding a B#$#$. Isn't he also responsible for GIVING ME A FALSE KNOWLEDGE? This is the point here, why are these FALLEN DYNASTY STICKING TO A FAKE IDEOLOGY? These fathers have forgotten how their ancestors were viewed by people, and for what reasons they were considered as lords. IT was not birth, but because of WORK. If the founding father of the family fortune earned it, his own generation is where it should stop. He did not earn the right to influence the competition in the next generation. It is as overreaching as giving the founder of a business the right to have sex on demand with his employees. No one with any pride should enter a competition that has the sons of previous winners set up halfway to the finish line. If he is ever to become a man, he must break the legs of the heirs and make them crawl the rest of the way. Just to rub it in, because only the proud have the right to do that, he should kick dirt in their pampered faces as he races past them. It would only take 1% to get the 1%'s hereditary privilege eliminated. They are cowardly, weak, and stupid. The fact that nobody sees what we can and must do is proof of totalitarian brainwashing. |
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Mar 7, 2020 19:01:58 GMT
HEIRHEADS HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXIST Histwhorey. It never teaches the democratic fact that America defeated the British in two wars solely because the guillotine-fodder aristocratic system only used a tiny percentage of the nation's military-leadership talent. Andrew Jackson, who defeated Wellington's division, would have never been allowed to become even the lowest-ranked officer in the British army. This is the most important idea of all time, yet it never makes into books the ruling class allows to be published. homo rerectusIndia was an even worse enemy of talent; that's why the British easily overran a people who outnumbered the Redcoats 10,000 to 1. Don't be a mind-slave for what lying historians tell us about intraclass conflict causing the conquest. Those academic bookworms are pseudo-intellectual slaveboys of plutocratic parasites. They'll even admit, in cases that don't threaten their Masters, that when one class achieves sole power, it starts to fight within itself. The first famous example was the absolute birth-class supremacy that was achieved when the patricians murdered the Gracchi; the civil wars won by the first two Caesars were the inevitable result. The same happened in Korea, which lost its independence for the first time in 2,000 years because of crushing a peasant revolt in the late 19th Century. Who was andrew jackson? could you please guide me on this. There was an officer named arthur wellesley, who overran the indian empire here, he too was duke of wellington. SOME GENOS NEED TO BE CIDED Andrew Jackson justifiably owned slaves from an inferior race and violently evicted indigenous tribes, also from an inferior race. These races are actually unwelcome leftovers from the species homo erectus. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 12:02:41 GMT
OP did not mention the real stuff
these hindoooos drink PISS
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