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Post by Διαμονδ on Oct 9, 2019 13:07:20 GMT
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 9, 2019 15:56:15 GMT
Desperation makes people act strangely. If straight behaviour is hopeless, than something unusual is supposed to believe as something as might come in handy.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 10, 2019 4:35:24 GMT
Actually it may not be strange. Strangeness is to say it is foreign, to say it is foreign is to say it is seperate, but if we all come the same source we must have similarities as well.
A spirit is just a continuing set of emotions or set of emotions. Spirit of anger. Spirit of War (Anger, Greed, Fear, Etc.).
Positive emotions reflect a connection (ex: happiness from seeing beauty as symmetry, or connecting with a loved one (someone who is interwoven within our identity), or fulfilling some desire.)
Negative emotions reflect a disconnection (ex: sadness/depression from seeing chaos as an absence of order, or loss of loved one, or the inability to fulfill some desire.)
This continuum of emotions in turn forms our perspectives and how we interact with the world as these emotions being irrational are strictly the continuum through which we measure reality through the intellect. If I have positive emotions I reason one way (may be more giving, work harder, etc.). If I have negative emotions I may reason another way (less giving, work less, etc.)
Emotions go up and down. We get a high feeling when happy. A low feeling when sad. We project towards the heavens in one respect and down to the center of the earth in another. Emotions thus alternate between extremes in a rhythmic up/down if one is balanced...this is a frequency. This as spatial is a platonic archetype.
Now if one continues in any one of these extremes and is unable to maintain a balance they are "possessed". This possession is an absence of free will.
If a person is happy go lucky all the time they are possessed by a good spirit. If destructive and evil spirit. Both of these are generalizations.
So if a person is possessed by a continual "joy" they will feel pain and that spirit will be interrupted. If they they do not feel pain, possess an interior spirit of evil, that spirit is not interrupted as that is its primary degree of awareness (ie "seperation" which is what pain fundamentally is).
Now ideally both these good and evil spirits should be joined so that one can feel pain and joy at the same time show an inherent balance and detachment (thus virtue as the awareness of illusion for what it is...passing phenomenon).
So a person may be joyful in the face of pain and accept it, for what it is while an evil person may not feel pain at all or cease to accept it for what it is as transient.
These "spirits", while expressed anthropomorphically (with this being a half truth) due to the mythos, are fundamentally at the level of logos or "symbol" spatial archetypes.
Happiness as transcendence is an awareness of what is "up" or beyond this dimension of reality. Sadness as descendence is an awareness of what is "down" is strictly an "entrapment" in this dimension or another lesser dimension.
Again both of these dimensions are extremes and must be balanced to gain a full acceptance of both. This balance point is "point 0" so to speak or the underlying emptiness of reality that is ever present. This 0 dimension is the GoD dimension of the Hindus, a full state of awareness in zen buddhism, the emptiness of spirit in Christianity, etc.
Practically speaking it is acknowledging we assume reality and thus assuming and be assumed by reality. This is considering all assumptions are intrinsically empty.
Thus a spirit of awareness, that sets the grounds for both extremes, is akin to the platonic archetype of a "point".
The projection of this awareness (assumption) away from itself results in a polarity. To progress away from "the source" is negative emotion, to progress back towards it is positive emotion. To embrace both is to observes awareness (void) as an intrinsic median.
So these "spirits" have there roots in platonic spatial archetypes, but are anthropomorphic as well as embodiments of awareness.
A spirit is just a linear projection in one direction, with his projection in one direction being subject to ups and downs as the good spirit and bad spirit have ups and downs. Thus a spirit is a frequency and as such a continuum thus irrational.
So to drive out "evil spirits" by lashings is strictly to cause a change in the continuum of emotions (ie "if I am angry and this spirit is broken by the application of pain, the spirit is exorcised")
They view the world as a series of spirits as they are personally connected at the subjective level to the world around them. In the west we see these same phenomenon as "laws of physics". They view it through the mythos. We view it through the logos (logic).
But this logos is grounded in the mythos (and vice versa) thus we still see the world as spirits considering only conscious entities can observe laws...to say physics follows laws is to say it is conscious and or to project ourselves onto it.
The world is formed by the stories we tell as a way to mold the darkness into light. The ancients told ghost stories. We call our ghost stories "theories" with a root of "theos" in theories thus reflecting intuitively a certain degree of divinity in our minds to the theory. Physics is the medieval catholic church of our times, the scientists its priests.
So to sum it up, both there subjective stance and western "objectivity" are dualisms of the same thing.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Oct 10, 2019 5:00:07 GMT
, India has way worse things happen than this.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Oct 10, 2019 11:07:56 GMT
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 10, 2019 14:18:51 GMT
Physical harm like that doesn't cure anything. It can just leave scars, cuts, pain, etc. Time to use common sense. It's really declining nowadays like with people saying men can have periods and babies to name a few. It's gonna spiral out of control.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 10, 2019 17:09:19 GMT
Physical harm like that doesn't cure anything. It can just leave scars, cuts, pain, etc. Time to use common sense. It's really declining nowadays like with people saying men can have periods and babies to name a few. It's gonna spiral out of control. Children used to be spanked for bad behavior in the west...and now they are not. Look at the chaos.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 10, 2019 18:24:37 GMT
Physical harm like that doesn't cure anything. It can just leave scars, cuts, pain, etc. Time to use common sense. It's really declining nowadays like with people saying men can have periods and babies to name a few. It's gonna spiral out of control. Children used to be spanked for bad behavior in the west...and now they are not. Look at the chaos. This isn't a form of spanking for a bad habit though. This is just abuse. But correcting a childs behavior by spanking before they grow up a shameful nobody is definitively needed.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 10, 2019 18:27:23 GMT
This isn't a form of spanking for a bad habit though. This is just abuse. But correcting a childs behavior by spanking before they grow up a shameful nobody is definitively needed. I am not sure about this case, it is a form of group cohesion and expression of authority by a higher power (village, community, etc.) I dont think these girls will be permanently traumatized. What we do in the west to young women, exploiting them, is much worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 10:07:29 GMT
I am not a hindu
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Post by ajay0 on Oct 12, 2019 5:58:28 GMT
It is some sort of primitive or tribal exorcism ritual, it seems. It usually happens in rural or tribal areas in India. Christian and muslim priests in India are also known to use such tactics in exorcisms and so on.
People believe that negative spirits or ghosts occupy living bodies and so on. This kind of belief is also there in the west considering the horror films in this regard.
I remember reading Yogananda stating that it is weak minds that attract such malevolent spirits and that mental strength and courage is the best armour against them.
I personally have never seen such stuff directly.
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