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Post by greatestiam on Sept 9, 2019 17:15:56 GMT
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Post by greatestiam on Jan 9, 2020 1:42:35 GMT
Have you not seen all the graven images in your church? Regards DL Have you not seen the graven images on the ark of the covenant and the tapestries of the tabernacle of testimony? I thought they were still seeking the lost ark, but no argument that idols have mostly always been a part of Christianity and Judaism. All religions basically. Moses cursed the golden calf but offered just another rock with words to idolize and hold as an ideal. Regards DL |
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Post by KGrim on Jan 9, 2020 1:56:03 GMT
greatestiam , Your logic goes as follows: All idols are images therefore all images are idols. But not all idols are images and not all images are idols. I don't think you can wrap your mind around that. Or rather you don't want to wrap your mind around that because you would lose a pretext to criticize my religion.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 10, 2020 12:20:28 GMT
I must admire this question is tough for me. This is a case, as I seem it, of "are morals the same for the long time?", "do we have objective moralities?", and so on. By experience of mine, people usually stick to their physical, mammal reflexes, instincts. Often it's seen how people are giving up; while, there can happen if someone starts playing role of the hero. Last ones seem to be little spooky, and seem psychos. Such universal rule as the golden one, yeah, it shows mostly; but, cultural cliches, common pieces of actions for a certain group of people press them down, and make them be formatted. I mean that it's also not rare to see a person who follows the rules of his parents, surround, tribe, friends. These particular cases I mentioned previously as "specific morality". The immature will always take guidance from his peers. This is good. The mature will take his own guidance, should it be superior to the peers guidance, to the point of even breaking a law. Some law, as you well know from religious laws as well as some secular laws, are garbage and should never have been suggested. Religious laws are exceptionally vile and that is why no religion is advocating for theistic law of the land. Christians are immoral but not completely stupid as they reject most of their own god's laws. Regards DL Honestly, I don't believe in any superiority. Yes, I signed that I am Christian, but it doesn't mean there's no uncertainties within my head left. How to define who's superior? Because of one's behaviour? - No, there's no good, reliable criteria. Because of one's speeches? - Nah. Because of one's deeds? - Hmm... I don't think that miracles are trust and possible. Humean objections to believe in miracles isn't less powerful to refuse it. I'd like to accept it. Besides, I don't think anyone is a saint. Humanity is rather shows how terrifying it was all these years: killing animals, burning plants, murdering each other... So, are there any superior between us? - As you rightly said - No. Is there, maybe, aliens from the outer space? - I don't believe it, because the tales about UFO have been created by people. How do you know that there was an evil demiurg who built this world? And isn't it possible that about our views of our neighbours (about anyone else's views) there is not biases? And how do we know we're not being systematically deceived by the demiurg all the time? Maybe the demiurg wants us to get into quarreling. |
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Post by greatestiam on Jan 21, 2020 17:30:54 GMT
greatestiam , Your logic goes as follows: All idols are images therefore all images are idols. But not all idols are images and not all images are idols. I don't think you can wrap your mind around that. Or rather you don't want to wrap your mind around that because you would lose a pretext to criticize my religion. I do not use such discussion on the meaning of words to criticize Christianity much. That is small fry as compared to the huge amount of immorality in your worship of a genocidal and infanticidal god that you and other immoral thinkers can somehow see as good. I want to save your soul from Satan, your god. Regards DL |
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Post by greatestiam on Jan 21, 2020 17:44:39 GMT
The immature will always take guidance from his peers. This is good. The mature will take his own guidance, should it be superior to the peers guidance, to the point of even breaking a law. Some law, as you well know from religious laws as well as some secular laws, are garbage and should never have been suggested. Religious laws are exceptionally vile and that is why no religion is advocating for theistic law of the land. Christians are immoral but not completely stupid as they reject most of their own god's laws. Regards DL Honestly, I don't believe in any superiority. Yes, I signed that I am Christian, but it doesn't mean there's no uncertainties within my head left. How to define who's superior? Because of one's behaviour? - No, there's no good, reliable criteria. Because of one's speeches? - Nah. Because of one's deeds? - Hmm... I don't think that miracles are trust and possible. Humean objections to believe in miracles isn't less powerful to refuse it. I'd like to accept it. Besides, I don't think anyone is a saint. Humanity is rather shows how terrifying it was all these years: killing animals, burning plants, murdering each other... So, are there any superior between us? - As you rightly said - No. Is there, maybe, aliens from the outer space? - I don't believe it, because the tales about UFO have been created by people. How do you know that there was an evil demiurg who built this world? And isn't it possible that about our views of our neighbours (about anyone else's views) there is not biases? And how do we know we're not being systematically deceived by the demiurg all the time? Maybe the demiurg wants us to get into quarreling. Let me reply with pure expert information from experts and scholars to show how and what I think on Jesus and the literal reading of myths that has caused, perhaps moral people, to idol worship an immoral prick of a god like Yahweh. bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2The demiurge, like Yahweh, is all fiction. God, as Jesus said, is within you and is you. Just not the imaginary supernatural fictitious one. Regards DL |
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Post by KGrim on Jan 21, 2020 21:09:42 GMT
greatestiam , Your logic goes as follows: All idols are images therefore all images are idols. But not all idols are images and not all images are idols. I don't think you can wrap your mind around that. Or rather you don't want to wrap your mind around that because you would lose a pretext to criticize my religion. I do not use such discussion on the meaning of words to criticize Christianity much. That is small fry as compared to the huge amount of immorality in your worship of a genocidal and infanticidal god that you and other immoral thinkers can somehow see as good. I want to save your soul from Satan, your god. Regards DL My God is not Satan. He is moral and just and has every right to take away the life that he created. You are self righteous and arrogant. I will not talk to you anymore. |
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Post by greatestiam on Jan 29, 2020 22:09:42 GMT
You are self righteous and arrogant and have the morals of your god Satan.
Who else would use genocide?
Not your god as that would be quite evil. Right?
Regards
DL
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