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Post by greatestiam on Sept 8, 2019 14:15:04 GMT
What do you think of the mainstream religions that are homophobic and misogynous?
I think they are stuck in the past and refuse to grow their moral sense to a higher level as they continue to discriminate and denigrate against gays and women without a just cause.
Should secular law do something against the religions that preach and teach poor morals and laws that are the opposite of the better secular law we live by?
We seem to be coming down on Islam and demanding they reform, but we seem to be ignoring Christianity’s efforts to make the world a worse place with homophobia and second class women.
Thoughts?
Regards DL
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 11, 2019 3:41:48 GMT
My stance is simple...homosexuality is a deviation from natural and divine law by its inherent form alone. To argue that certain animals exhibit homosexual behavior, thus it is moral, is a flawed statement as it does not take into account environmental pollution are artificially created conditions which affect the organisms being observed.
Homosexuality Is an intrinsic evil...it is sterile and desolate in nature.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 11, 2019 3:54:08 GMT
What do you think of the mainstream religions that are homophobic and misogynous? I think they are stuck in the past and refuse to grow their moral sense to a higher level as they continue to discriminate and denigrate against gays and women without a just cause. Should secular law do something against the religions that preach and teach poor morals and laws that are the opposite of the better secular law we live by? We seem to be coming down on Islam and demanding they reform, but we seem to be ignoring Christianity’s efforts to make the world a worse place with homophobia and second class women. Thoughts? Regards DL Homosexuality, prevalent in Greek culture, correlated with women being viewed as 2nd class. This was prior to Christianity. At a practical level: Homosexuality is a f*** you to women...so save the "holier than thou" self righteousness.
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 11, 2019 10:06:58 GMT
One's subjective universe is not assumed, if anything one's objective universe is assumed (by ignoramuses), the subjective universe may be thought of as one's personal perspective on the objective universe, together with any self‑created phenomena one wishes to add to it. So essentially we have the following: The subjective state assumed becomes self referential and objective to the observer however is always still assumed in an subjective manner. The subjective state, as assuming, is alway constant as intrinsically empty. This Emptiness Is No Different than Point A And Point B one a line still being a simple empty point. 1. Objective Universe (OU): Things are as they "are." Time, space, matter, energy, etc. And The Subjective State As Intrinsically Empty Self Referential Loop (As We Loop Values and Memories To Maintain't Identity) Is An Objective Constant.2. Subjective Universe (SU): Our unique personal perspective and experience of the OU. What we interpret and perceive it as. But this Perspective, However Subjective, Always Requires A Point Of Assumption, Inherently Empty, A Continuum Of Progression Of Assumed Contexts, and A Cycling Through Repitition Of These Contexts With These ConText Ranging From Memories, Symbols, Archetypes, Etc. As A Looping Existing Through The Observer.To help you understand this in a layman's, dumbed-down, way . . . In the 'exclusive' objective universe, a house is simply a geometrically‑coordinated, gravitationally‑braced and weatherproof arrangement of certain kinds of molecules. From The Premise Of Physics You Have Not Given A Full Statement As The Atoms Which form these phenomenon are fundamentally 99.9999... percent empty spheres...they are forms grounded in spatial axioms with protons, electrons, neutrons correspond to positive, negative and neutral particle/fields. which underlying all phenomenon as particulate/general in how we measure and classify them. The Same Particle Field Dualism Is How We Classify Reality As Particulate/General...Thus Is Recurssive And CyclIcal At Different Dimensions..."As Above So Below".As various individuals design, decorate, occupy, or view the house, however, it is imbued with characteristics assigned to it by them. It now exists in their several subjective universes, and it may continue to exist there even after the 'objective' house has been demolished. And Those Characteristics Are Merely Variations Of The Same Thing. A House Of X Dimensions Vs A House Of Y Dimensions Are Both Variations Of The Same Linear Space Used To Mold Them.You are boring me to tears with your inane posturing and this desire to be Right. I Wouldnt Call It A Desire, As That Is A Projection On Your Part, But Rather An Acknoledgement Of An Intrinsic Divine Order That Exists Through us but is beyond us. You have been nothing but incorrect in all your ASSumptions regarding what I and my Beliefs/Order are about. You Are A Vampire And A Predator...Your Organization Even States this Bluntly On Its Facebook Page...Assuming It Is Your Organization...You Redefined Words As You See Fit Failing to Realized They Cycle Back And Form Its Own Judgement.You attempt to put words in my mouth in order for you to somehow 'come out on top' of whatever petulant battle you have imagined. So You Are A Victim...Is That What You Are Implying?You get the award for saying a whole lotta nothing! And another award for Debate 101 techniques used carelessly. I have news for you, Man is the apex predator on this planet. This makes you a predator. As for being a Vampire, we use the archaic spelling 'Vampyre' to distinguish between the undead corpse of fiction that lusts for blood and the Spiritual Archetype which is a synthesis between the rising of primordial archetypal structures and the willful direction of "darker" psychic forces.
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 11, 2019 10:16:10 GMT
My stance is simple...homosexuality is a deviation from natural and divine law by its inherent form alone. Funny that you and I both agree on the 'natural' laws being opposed to homosexual behavior (I do not agree with the divine nonsense), yet you have launched a campaign against practically every word I post!Homosexuality Is an intrinsic evil...it is sterile and desolate in nature. Homosexuality is not an Evil. Impeding the Will of another is an Evil. While homoesexuality may not evolve or sustain a species, if it is the Will of a conscious, sentient being, then So Be It.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 11, 2019 19:20:18 GMT
You get the award for saying a whole lotta nothing! And another award for Debate 101 techniques used carelessly. I have news for you, Man is the apex predator on this planet. This makes you a predator. As for being a Vampire, we use the archaic spelling 'Vampyre' to distinguish between the undead corpse of fiction that lusts for blood and the Spiritual Archetype which is a synthesis between the rising of primordial archetypal structures and the willful direction of "darker" psychic forces.
An apex is merely the underlying bond that unites being. If I say the apex is Divinity and from this the logical string: Divinity ---> Being ---> Man ---> Animal ---> Cell ---> Matter what I am observing is that Divinity, as the Apex, progresses to a continual variation where it is always an underlying cause and exists in a fractal state.
Man is not a predator, Man is not not a predator, man is a median or means through which reality is "stewarded".
Man is a spiritual being through this nature of mediator, and as such to prey on spirituality necessitates an preying on man who exists through a spiritual nature. You can differentiate all you want, but your logic is subject to a binding loop.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 11, 2019 19:23:56 GMT
My stance is simple...homosexuality is a deviation from natural and divine law by its inherent form alone. Funny that you and I both agree on the 'natural' laws being opposed to homosexual behavior (I do not agree with the divine nonsense), yet you have launched a campaign against practically every word I post!There is no "campaign"...just a predation on predators...this to you is natural but you fail to distinguish that man as an "apex" predator (from your point of view) must prey on predators...the circle of predators....don't wine...I am just following your philosophy to its natural conclusion...you as a predator are prey to me. Don't impede my will...for it yours is "weaker" you have none to begin with, no contradiction.Homosexuality Is an intrinsic evil...it is sterile and desolate in nature. Homosexuality is not an Evil. Impeding the Will of another is an Evil. While homoesexuality may not evolve or sustain a species, if it is the Will of a conscious, sentient being, then So Be It. And what is this "will" but an undefined assumption of "self hood" that is intrinsically empty?
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 11, 2019 20:37:53 GMT
Incorrect. Jesus even stopped a killing Himself. As OT states adulterers must be killed. But Jesus saw the adultresses ready to be stoned and stopped it. Plus no where in the 10 commandments from OT/NT does it state to kill. If anything it says do not kill so yes Moses gave the law to not kill so we must uphold it Jesus said You must be kidding . . . 1 Chronicles 21 -God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people
Deuteronomy 3 -God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. -He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
Joshua 6 -He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” -In (Judges 21) He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead
2 Kings 10:18-27 God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
Judges 21:10-24 God has an entire town killed and the virgins repeatedly raped, and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
Numbers 31:7-18 "They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men . . . Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 "As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you."
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house . . . After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife."
Add Cato to That: ISLAM MUST BE DESTROYEDAfter 9/11, our weak-kneed-giant doormat country should have used those texts to confirm that there are subhumans in this world who must be exterminated so that no traces of their foul culture remain. And take every drop of Islam's oil.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 11, 2019 20:47:15 GMT
Actually if they are extensions of your mind, how you view reality...they are how you observe. Are they extensions of our mind? Neuroscience believes they may be carried over from DNA and symbolically represent evolved thoughtforms. How we interpret them depends on our subjectivity, after all we assign meaning to things. The Fourth Spatial Dimension Where is the mind? Since it is not material, but it affects matter, it must exist at the interface between this 3D universe and the universe from which it erupted at the "Big Bang."
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 12, 2019 3:46:51 GMT
Are they extensions of our mind? Neuroscience believes they may be carried over from DNA and symbolically represent evolved thoughtforms. How we interpret them depends on our subjectivity, after all we assign meaning to things. The Fourth Spatial Dimension Where is the mind? Since it is not material, but it affects matter, it must exist at the interface between this 3D universe and the universe from which it erupted at the "Big Bang." The mind sits right next to Thoughts . . . find them, !
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 12, 2019 3:47:57 GMT
You must be kidding . . . 1 Chronicles 21 -God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people
Deuteronomy 3 -God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. -He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
Joshua 6 -He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” -In (Judges 21) He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead
2 Kings 10:18-27 God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
Judges 21:10-24 God has an entire town killed and the virgins repeatedly raped, and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
Numbers 31:7-18 "They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men . . . Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 "As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you."
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house . . . After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife."
Add Cato to That: ISLAM MUST BE DESTROYEDAfter 9/11, our weak-kneed-giant doormat country should have used those texts to confirm that there are subhumans in this world who must be exterminated so that no traces of their foul culture remain. And take every drop of Islam's oil. Is it Islam or is it Extremist Islam? There is a difference.
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 12, 2019 3:52:38 GMT
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 12, 2019 3:55:37 GMT
You get the award for saying a whole lotta nothing! And another award for Debate 101 techniques used carelessly. I have news for you, Man is the apex predator on this planet. This makes you a predator. As for being a Vampire, we use the archaic spelling 'Vampyre' to distinguish between the undead corpse of fiction that lusts for blood and the Spiritual Archetype which is a synthesis between the rising of primordial archetypal structures and the willful direction of "darker" psychic forces.
An apex is merely the underlying bond that unites being. If I say the apex is Divinity and from this the logical string: Divinity ---> Being ---> Man ---> Animal ---> Cell ---> Matter what I am observing is that Divinity, as the Apex, progresses to a continual variation where it is always an underlying cause and exists in a fractal state.
Man is not a predator, Man is not not a predator, man is a median or means through which reality is "stewarded".
Man is a spiritual being through this nature of mediator, and as such to prey on spirituality necessitates an preying on man who exists through a spiritual nature. You can differentiate all you want, but your logic is subject to a binding loop.
At this juncture, I conclude you are nothing more than a troll with absolutely nothing to say or offer, except long-winded, pseudo-intellectual, nonsense of which there is little to no value. Please avoid discussing with me and I shall do the same with you.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 12, 2019 19:31:18 GMT
An apex is merely the underlying bond that unites being. If I say the apex is Divinity and from this the logical string: Divinity ---> Being ---> Man ---> Animal ---> Cell ---> Matter what I am observing is that Divinity, as the Apex, progresses to a continual variation where it is always an underlying cause and exists in a fractal state.
Man is not a predator, Man is not not a predator, man is a median or means through which reality is "stewarded".
Man is a spiritual being through this nature of mediator, and as such to prey on spirituality necessitates an preying on man who exists through a spiritual nature. You can differentiate all you want, but your logic is subject to a binding loop.
At this juncture, I conclude you are nothing more than a troll with absolutely nothing to say or offer, except long-winded, pseudo-intellectual, nonsense of which there is little to no value. Please avoid discussing with me and I shall do the same with you. No, I don't think so...watching you squirm and talk about your pursuit for self mastery is much to interesting of a contradiction to ignore....
So are you the predator or the prey?
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Post by greatestiam on Sept 12, 2019 22:47:54 GMT
My stance is simple...homosexuality is a deviation from natural and divine law by its inherent form alone. To argue that certain animals exhibit homosexual behavior, thus it is moral, is a flawed statement as it does not take into account environmental pollution are artificially created conditions which affect the organisms being observed. Homosexuality Is an intrinsic evil...it is sterile and desolate in nature. That would make Christianity evil. I agree.
christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/whensamesexmarriagewasachristianrite.html
Regards DL
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Post by Etu Malku on Sept 13, 2019 3:27:23 GMT
At this juncture, I conclude you are nothing more than a troll with absolutely nothing to say or offer, except long-winded, pseudo-intellectual, nonsense of which there is little to no value. Please avoid discussing with me and I shall do the same with you. No, I don't think so...watching you squirm and talk about your pursuit for self mastery is much to interesting of a contradiction to ignore....
So are you the predator or the prey?
Who admins this site? As I search the posts of xxxxxxxxx, I find nothing but the same trolling BS, endless arguments, a plethora of nonsensical, psuedo intelligent babble and wave after wave of stressed out, frustrated members discussions. Drop this Loser . . .
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