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Post by Lone Wanderer on Aug 29, 2019 18:52:44 GMT
Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. BeliefsThomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists these four common beliefs: • The assertion of the unreality of God for our age, including the understandings of God which have been a part of traditional Christian theology. • The insistence upon coming to grips with contemporary culture as a necessary feature of responsible theological work. • Varying degrees and forms of alienation from the church as it is now constituted. • Recognition of the centrality of the person of Jesus in theological reflection. God's existenceAccording to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading". -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Christian
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 1, 2019 6:09:56 GMT
Never heard of it but I'm still confused by it. So do these people believe in God or no? All I'm reading is that the person is both religious and an atheist and I'm having trouble seeing how that fits. It's like saying, I'm a vegetarian carnivore." Just...confused....
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Sept 1, 2019 6:34:00 GMT
Never heard of it but I'm still confused by it. So do these people believe in God or no? All I'm reading is that the person is both religious and an atheist and I'm having trouble seeing how that fits. It's like saying, I'm a vegetarian carnivore." Just...confused.... They just follow humanitarian/humanist aspects of Jesus' stuff.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 1, 2019 6:54:16 GMT
Never heard of it but I'm still confused by it. So do these people believe in God or no? All I'm reading is that the person is both religious and an atheist and I'm having trouble seeing how that fits. It's like saying, I'm a vegetarian carnivore." Just...confused.... They just follow humanitarian/humanist aspects of Jesus' stuff. Hmm...but they don't want to use a different name other than Christian? Because Christianity is a religion. Maybe "Christly Atheism". Just to me a different name is more suitable because I automatically think religion when the word "Christian" appears.
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Sept 1, 2019 7:04:52 GMT
They just follow humanitarian/humanist aspects of Jesus' stuff. Hmm...but they don't want to use a different name other than Christian? Because Christianity is a religion. Maybe "Christly Atheism". Just to me a different name is more suitable because I automatically think religion when the word "Christian" appears. They already have some alternative names: There is no definitive meaning of Jesuism and hence no clear ideology. Various groups use the terms Jesuism, Jesusism and Jesuanism. These include disenchanted Christians who are critical of institutional religion or Pauline Christianity, people who identify themselves as disciples of Jesus rather than Christians, Christian atheists who accept Jesus' teachings but do not believe in God, and atheists who are critical of all religion including Jesuism. Adherents may be termed Jesuists, Jesusists or Jesuans.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesuism
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 1, 2019 7:14:04 GMT
Stupid bunch of idiots. They have no future, nor past. With the same reason I can start copying wolves, 'cause their ethics seem not worse.
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Sept 1, 2019 8:05:53 GMT
Stupid bunch of idiots. They have no future, nor past. With the same reason I can start copying wolves, 'cause their ethics seem not worse.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 1, 2019 10:48:37 GMT
Stupid bunch of idiots. They have no future, nor past. With the same reason I can start copying wolves, 'cause their ethics seem not worse. If She-hippopotamus could laugh she would hide his mouth too
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Post by joustos on Sept 1, 2019 16:13:17 GMT
Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. BeliefsThomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists these four common beliefs: • The assertion of the unreality of God for our age, including the understandings of God which have been a part of traditional Christian theology. • The insistence upon coming to grips with contemporary culture as a necessary feature of responsible theological work. • Varying degrees and forms of alienation from the church as it is now constituted. • Recognition of the centrality of the person of Jesus in theological reflection. God's existenceAccording to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading". -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ChristianIt is quite possible for some people to follow a teacher/preacher of morality, a philosophical ethics, a home-made policy of social justice, and the like, without reference to a theology, but the idea of a "Christian Atheism" (invented on the tracks of "Jewish Atheism") is a contradiction in terms, as Elizabeth has pointed out). If one is a "Jesuist" (not to say "Jesuit"), he must believe in what Jesus believed, such as: He had a heavenly father (Eloi, Eloi,....); he taught how to pray to the heavenly father (God); etc. He wasa theist, and so must be any Jesuist! Of course, some atheists have extracted a "Christian" ethics from the Scriptures so as to give the appearance of being religious … without a God. Deceptions!
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 1, 2019 19:53:31 GMT
Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. BeliefsThomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists these four common beliefs: • The assertion of the unreality of God for our age, including the understandings of God which have been a part of traditional Christian theology. • The insistence upon coming to grips with contemporary culture as a necessary feature of responsible theological work. • Varying degrees and forms of alienation from the church as it is now constituted. • Recognition of the centrality of the person of Jesus in theological reflection. God's existenceAccording to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading". -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ChristianSo is man the be all and end all of knowledge then? Christ, a man, already admitted to being God....
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Sept 2, 2019 5:19:38 GMT
Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. BeliefsThomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists these four common beliefs: • The assertion of the unreality of God for our age, including the understandings of God which have been a part of traditional Christian theology. • The insistence upon coming to grips with contemporary culture as a necessary feature of responsible theological work. • Varying degrees and forms of alienation from the church as it is now constituted. • Recognition of the centrality of the person of Jesus in theological reflection. God's existenceAccording to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading". -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ChristianSo is man the be all and end all of knowledge then? Christ, a man, already admitted to being God.... I don't know but this "Christian Atheism" is something similar to other religion-related movements in the history of religions and ideologies; e.g. why Protestantism happened. As you mentioned in another thread (McIslam), I predict similar trends/approaches/movements would happen among the Muslims in the future. Muslims and Islamic communities who want to keep Allah and good aspects of Islam but trying to remove/change Sharia laws and harsh aspects of their religion. -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Modernism
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Post by gater on Sept 2, 2019 18:41:19 GMT
Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. BeliefsThomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists these four common beliefs: • The assertion of the unreality of God for our age, including the understandings of God which have been a part of traditional Christian theology. • The insistence upon coming to grips with contemporary culture as a necessary feature of responsible theological work. • Varying degrees and forms of alienation from the church as it is now constituted. • Recognition of the centrality of the person of Jesus in theological reflection. God's existenceAccording to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading". -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ChristianWhen people ask I tell them im an atheist with Christian principles. Although I don't believe in a traditional God, I believe in evolution, I feel theres a lot of good principles in the Bible.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 2, 2019 20:24:12 GMT
So is man the be all and end all of knowledge then? Christ, a man, already admitted to being God.... I don't know but this "Christian Atheism" is something similar to other religion-related movements in the history of religions and ideologies; e.g. why Protestantism happened. As you mentioned in another thread (McIslam), I predict similar trends/approaches/movements would happen among the Muslims in the future. Muslims and Islamic communities who want to keep Allah and good aspects of Islam but trying to remove/change Sharia laws and harsh aspects of their religion. -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_ModernismStill necessitates an underlying faith. Religions as just forms based around connects self evident truths (revelations) which are assumed. To really understand the nature of religion, God, or reality we are stuck dealing with the ugly truth of assumptions. I mean less face it people's beliefs, even those of the atheist, are grounded in assuming some experience within a cpgiven context of time and space that is fundamentally spontaneous in nature. People of religion, and atheists for that matter as well, fail to keep in mind this assumptive process. But yes, even if Islam takes over....and it mostly likely will because of birth rates and its inherent order, they will still have to keep in mind corporatization. Their kids have iPhones too....
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Sept 3, 2019 6:40:52 GMT
Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. BeliefsThomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists these four common beliefs: • The assertion of the unreality of God for our age, including the understandings of God which have been a part of traditional Christian theology. • The insistence upon coming to grips with contemporary culture as a necessary feature of responsible theological work. • Varying degrees and forms of alienation from the church as it is now constituted. • Recognition of the centrality of the person of Jesus in theological reflection. God's existenceAccording to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading". -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ChristianWhen people ask I tell them im an atheist with Christian principles. Although I don't believe in a traditional God, I believe in evolution, I feel theres a lot of good principles in the Bible. Cultural Christian => en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Christian
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Post by gater on Sept 4, 2019 2:03:30 GMT
Thanks - for years I kept my true beliefs to myself because im from such a Christian background. Id never heard the term but its nice to know theres others out there and that theres a name for us
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