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Post by gater on Aug 3, 2019 3:22:28 GMT
I was raised to believe in the traditional Christian God, but now im an atheist, so my idea of "God" has changed. Now my idea of "God" is the energy of the Sun that helped to created life on earth. We have Mother Earth - and "Father" Sun, and Man - this to me is the real trinity.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 3, 2019 3:31:19 GMT
I never heard the sun being referred to as the Father. Is this your personal view or it's from somewhere else?
God to me is a powerful being. It is only one whole being. It can have parts to it but it's a whole being. Like a pie. It can be separated into 1/4, 1/2, etc. but together it's a pie and if separated then parts of the whole pie and still a pie. Like a human can be separated. There's people with no legs and arms. They're humans still but not fully whole in one form but still fully human. Plus God must be all powerful. He can create, know everything, etc. He's the source of life, wisdom, etc.
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 3, 2019 3:40:28 GMT
The aggregate of all forces of nature.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 3, 2019 3:47:49 GMT
He's an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent being who existed before anything else existed. He created the entirety of existence and is perfect in both love and justice. He is not a distant God at all as those that he has called to be his children have a personal relationship with him. The nature of his existence is spiritual, he is a spirit every bit as real as you or me but of a different substance. He has no beginning and has no end; he is eternal and one day every human and celestial being that has ever existed will be judged by him and whether their destination is eternal paradise or the lake of fire they will all bow and confess that he is God. No one is above him and no one can escape his wrath except those who believe in his son Jesus.
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Post by gater on Aug 3, 2019 6:55:02 GMT
I never heard the sun being referred to as the Father. Is this your personal view or it's from somewhere else? God to me is a powerful being. It is only one whole being. It can have parts to it but it's a whole being. Like a pie. It can be separated into 1/4, 1/2, etc. but together it's a pie and if separated then parts of the whole pie and still a pie. Like a human can be separated. There's people with no legs and arms. They're humans still but not fully whole in one form but still fully human. Plus God must be all powerful. He can create, know everything, etc. He's the source of life, wisdom, etc. Well we all have heard the term Mother Earth - and it occurred to me a mother needs a father to create life - So yes the Sun is like the father and together they made life. - just my personal view, I do believe in Evolution.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 3, 2019 7:54:22 GMT
I never heard the sun being referred to as the Father. Is this your personal view or it's from somewhere else? God to me is a powerful being. It is only one whole being. It can have parts to it but it's a whole being. Like a pie. It can be separated into 1/4, 1/2, etc. but together it's a pie and if separated then parts of the whole pie and still a pie. Like a human can be separated. There's people with no legs and arms. They're humans still but not fully whole in one form but still fully human. Plus God must be all powerful. He can create, know everything, etc. He's the source of life, wisdom, etc. did i read one Whole. Really !!! then why keep splitting him into 3. oh wait bible must prevail on something that logically spills out of your mouth You missed the fractions part in my post. Ex. 1/3+1/3+1/3=1 and 1 piece of a cake is still a cake so if you at a piece of a cake or entire thing you still ate cake because just a piece of it doesn't make it stop being a cake
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 3, 2019 8:13:20 GMT
You missed the fractions part in my post. Ex. 1/3+1/3+1/3=1 and 1 piece of a cake is still a cake so if you at a piece of a cake or entire thing you still ate cake because just a piece of it doesn't make it stop being a cake u made God into a pie just so u could defend trinity somehow.. dont i see whats going on under the unrighteous crown of yours. ll take that crown one day and destroy it .. bu haa haa ... u haha haha It's called an example of how math and things work in real life. It's not making God a pie. Google the definition of an example. They're usually given to people who don't understand the full picture so it's broken down to peices for them. Internet crowns can't be destroyed. Things on the internet exist while the internet exist. Ex. Emails will exist as long as there is internet out there so it can be used by people to message.
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Post by Trinity Stooge on Aug 3, 2019 12:49:54 GMT
The difference between God and Man, what separates us, is the difference between supreme Being and lesser being; which is the difference between "that I am" and "what I am"; which, when all is said and done, is "what i am not". So,
That I Am is supreme Being and God. What i am is lesser being and god.
Am I, or am I not? I am.
Therefore, God.
A lesser being is more complex, and God becomes a god through a willful act of ignorance.
That I am, is Logos, and God. What i am, is Gnosis, and Adam. \ --- Image of God ===> Corrupted Man What i am not, is Agnosis and Lucifer. / --- Image of Satan That I am not, is Mythos, and Satan.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 3, 2019 12:55:49 GMT
The difference between God and Man, what separates us, is the difference between supreme Being and lesser being; which is the difference between " that I am" and " what I am"; which, when all is said and done, is "what i am not". So, That I Am is supreme Being and God. What i am is lesser being and god. Am I, or am I not? I am. Therefore, God. A lesser being is more complex, and God becomes a god through a willful act of ignorance. That I am, is Logos, and God. What i am, is Gnosis, and Adam. \ --- Image of God ===> Corrupted Man What i am not, is Agnosis and Lucifer. / --- Image of Satan That I am not, is Mythos, and Satan. I was impressed with how you worded things but got lost with what you were saying at the end. Could you explain the part below? "A lesser being is more complex, and God becomes a god through a willful act of ignorance. That I am, is Logos, and God. What i am, is Gnosis, and Adam. \ --- Image of God ===> Corrupted Man What i am not, is Agnosis and Lucifer. / --- Image of Satan That I am not, is Mythos, and Satan."
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Post by joustos on Aug 3, 2019 15:32:04 GMT
I understand that you, like many others, are an "ecclesiastical atheist", that is, a non-believer in a God upheld by some Congregation or Church, but any atheist has still to account for the idea "god" which got into human history as well as his own language. Now, regardless of any specific religion, God is always a super-human power that can overwhelm humans and other things. According to ancient Greek accounts, we have the presence of two great powers: the Earth [Khthonie or Gaia] and he rainy Sky [Ouranos or Zeus] which are responsible for what is born or generated by the Earth. Eventually, Heat or the Sun was deemed (especially by the Egyptians) necessary for generation. In the case of the ancient Egyptians, the southern branch of the Caucasians, the Nile waters, not the sky rains, were responsible for what emerges and grows. So, historically, we have two different cosmologies, both based on human experiences (not prophets or myth-makers -- who are later comers in social history and founders of religions). The attributes of any God that we find in the various religions depend on myth-making, which begins by conceiving god in the image of Man (the cause of many things; an intentional agent; etc.) The early philosophers were de facto atheists, as they spoke of the automatic (not intentional) emergence of things or Nature, but both Plato and Aristotle re-introduced some gods in Nature in order to account for some phenomena, and so do the Creationists today. Thus began the attempts to "prove" the existence of gods or of one God. Anyway, do not confuse the philosophical quests with the ecclesiastical/prophetic assertions about the nature of God, the reality of Satan [or Satana-el in the Ugaritic/Canaanite theology], etc.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Aug 3, 2019 16:17:14 GMT
Point, line and circle...anyone who knows me here is saying silently to themselves: "shut the fuck up eodnhoj". For those who are not saying it... the rest of the Phil section explains.
It is the only definition of God to maintain a simultaneous irrational and rational approach without contradiction.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 18:31:47 GMT
ineffable
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 3, 2019 19:52:50 GMT
I was raised to believe in the traditional Christian God, but now im an atheist, so my idea of "God" has changed. Now my idea of "God" is the energy of the Sun that helped to created life on earth. We have Mother Earth - and "Father" Sun, and Man - this to me is the real trinity. If you redefined God rather than stopped believing in God, why do you call yourself an atheist?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 21:16:15 GMT
I was raised to believe in the traditional Christian God, but now im an atheist, so my idea of "God" has changed. Now my idea of "God" is the energy of the Sun that helped to created life on earth. We have Mother Earth - and "Father" Sun, and Man - this to me is the real trinity. If you redefined God rather than stopped believing in God, why do you call yourself an atheist? good question
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Post by gater on Aug 4, 2019 0:31:38 GMT
I don't believe in a God that has consciousness. God to me is the infinite energy of the Universe - however to be more specific - The Sun and earth together created life on this planet. And don't we attach the term "God" to what created life?
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