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Post by joustos on Apr 15, 2019 19:05:49 GMT
One sign of Islamic supremacy over the white and Christian world is the burning of Notre Dame in Paris. Arson is also the weapon Blacks used in Furgson (U.S.A.) and elsewhere. The enemy is already within, for it was invited and welcomed by the Pope and other traitors of the white race. "Amen" says the demented chorus.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 17, 2019 2:34:07 GMT
^Catholics are Christians (they practice a type of Christian, like Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy). Practicing idol worshipping isn't Christianity though. Like Jehovah Witnesses believe in many gods and shouldn't be called Christianity because Christianity is monotheistic. Too many relgions get put into Christianity. It sucks and needs to be changed.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 17, 2019 6:12:41 GMT
^Catholics are Christians (they practice a type of Christian, like Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy). I would have to disagree. They have adopted, much like Orthodoxy, many pagan practices and beliefs. For example, the Catholics rely on their church for doctrine rather than the Bible and explicitly state in their catechism that only through the Catholic Church can one obtain salvation(Official Roman Catholic Catechism pg. 215 #816) while the Bible specifically says, John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. And, Acts 4:10-12 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.I can go on and on showing how Catholic doctrine does not originate within the scriptures, but with men.
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Post by Etu Malku on Apr 17, 2019 10:10:29 GMT
^Catholics are Christians (they practice a type of Christian, like Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy). Practicing idol worshipping isn't Christianity though. Like Jehovah Witnesses believe in many gods and shouldn't be called Christianity because Christianity is monotheistic. Too many relgions get put into Christianity. It sucks and needs to be changed. These aren't idols?
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 17, 2019 10:28:58 GMT
No, those are icons. An idol is an actual object of worship. Here is an idol:
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Post by Nicholas on Apr 17, 2019 15:00:12 GMT
The only Christianity for the first 1500 years was not Protestant. To think that Christianity began not with Christ but with Martin Luther is stupid.
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Post by Sonny on Apr 17, 2019 19:50:43 GMT
^Catholics are Christians (they practice a type of Christian, like Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy). Practicing idol worshipping isn't Christianity though. Like Jehovah Witnesses believe in many gods and shouldn't be called Christianity because Christianity is monotheistic. Too many relgions get put into Christianity. It sucks and needs to be changed. Do they worship idols, though? They keep statues of Mary, but that's just art in my opinion. They don't believe Mary to be a God or part of the Trinity. They believe her to be sinless and that is where they are wrong.
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Post by Sonny on Apr 17, 2019 19:54:38 GMT
Practicing idol worshipping isn't Christianity though. Like Jehovah Witnesses believe in many gods and shouldn't be called Christianity because Christianity is monotheistic. Too many relgions get put into Christianity. It sucks and needs to be changed. These aren't idols?
That is art and a symbolic representation of ideas and history (of Christianity, of Christ and the Church).
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 17, 2019 20:47:29 GMT
Practicing idol worshipping isn't Christianity though. Like Jehovah Witnesses believe in many gods and shouldn't be called Christianity because Christianity is monotheistic. Too many relgions get put into Christianity. It sucks and needs to be changed. Do they worship idols, though? They keep statues of Mary, but that's just art in my opinion. They don't believe Mary to be a God or part of the Trinity. They believe her to be sinless and that is where they are wrong. That is art and a symbolic representation of ideas and history (of Christianity, of Christ and the Church). Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Exodus 20:4 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female Deuteronomy 4:16 I see likeness of male and female in their churches plus other things. God said no to this.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 17, 2019 20:48:32 GMT
Practicing idol worshipping isn't Christianity though. Like Jehovah Witnesses believe in many gods and shouldn't be called Christianity because Christianity is monotheistic. Too many relgions get put into Christianity. It sucks and needs to be changed. These aren't idols?
They are. They qualify... Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female Deuteronomy 4:16
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Post by jonbain on Apr 17, 2019 21:10:59 GMT
Mohammed's mentor was a Christian, so technically, that makes Islam an offshoot of Christianity. They accept Jesus after all. And Christianity being an off-shoot of Judaism makes us all one big dysfunctional Jewish family.
Now the real interesting part is that it seems that Judaism likely has its origins in Sanskrit, if you follow the evolution of language, with Greek and Jewish alphabets breaking off from the Sanskrit about the same time.
Dang! Now we're all Hindus! Even the pagans too! This mysticism stuff makes it all so easy.
But what about the atheists? Now that's a suspicious bunch. They could just be alien infiltrators; perhaps robots!
Namaste' Shalom, yadda yadda.
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Post by Etu Malku on Apr 17, 2019 22:27:04 GMT
No, those are icons. An idol is an actual object of worship. Here is an idol: . . . I knew someone would bring that up. Christian apologetics are very clever, I must say. Aniconism was shaped in monotheist religions by theological considerations and historical contexts. It emerged as a corollary of seeing God's position as the ultimate power holder, and the need to defend this unique status against competing external and internal forces, such as pagan idols and critical humans. Idolatry was seen as a threat to uniqueness, and one way that prophets and missionaries chose to fight it was through the prohibition of physical representations. The same solution worked against the pretension of humans to have the same power of creation as God (hence their banishment from the Heavens, the destruction of Babel, and the Second Commandment in the biblical texts). Idolatry, the Lord's Supper, and the Body of Christ www.desiringgod.org/messages/idolatry-the-lords-supper-and-the-body-of-christ
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Post by Sonny on Apr 18, 2019 4:36:14 GMT
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Exodus 20:4 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female Deuteronomy 4:16 I see likeness of male and female in their churches plus other things. God said no to this. Is wearing a cross necklace, idolatry? Those verses are from the OT. Iconography and other forms of Christian art can be traced back to as early as 2nd century. "In the Dura-Europos church, of about 230–256, which is in the best condition of the surviving very early churches, there are frescos of biblical scenes including a figure of Jesus, as well as Christ as the Good Shepherd. The building was a normal house apparently converted to use as a church.[12][13] The earliest Christian paintings in the Catacombs of Rome are from a few decades before, and these represent the largest body of examples of Christian art from the pre-Constantinian period, with hundreds of examples decorating tombs or family tomb-chambers. Many are simple symbols, but there are numerous figure paintings either showing orants or female praying figures, usually representing the deceased person, or figures or shorthand scenes from the bible or Christian history." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christian_art_and_architectureUnless you think that the early Church was in err and blaspheming against God?
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 18, 2019 5:24:11 GMT
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Exodus 20:4 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female Deuteronomy 4:16 I see likeness of male and female in their churches plus other things. God said no to this. Is wearing a cross necklace, idolatry? Those verses are from the OT. Iconography and other forms of Christian art can be traced back to as early as 2nd century. "In the Dura-Europos church, of about 230–256, which is in the best condition of the surviving very early churches, there are frescos of biblical scenes including a figure of Jesus, as well as Christ as the Good Shepherd. The building was a normal house apparently converted to use as a church.[12][13] The earliest Christian paintings in the Catacombs of Rome are from a few decades before, and these represent the largest body of examples of Christian art from the pre-Constantinian period, with hundreds of examples decorating tombs or family tomb-chambers. Many are simple symbols, but there are numerous figure paintings either showing orants or female praying figures, usually representing the deceased person, or figures or shorthand scenes from the bible or Christian history." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christian_art_and_architectureUnless you think that the early Church was in err and blaspheming against God? God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow scripture says. He doesn't like images given too much attention. I don't wear crosses.
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Post by Sonny on Apr 18, 2019 5:39:24 GMT
God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow scripture says. He doesn't like images given too much attention. I don't wear crosses. Did Jesus and the apostles teach that? How can Christian imagery and symbolism be in error or a sin, if the early Church did not find that practice to be wrong? The purpose of these symbols and art is to tell a story and to glory to God, to glorify Christ.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 18, 2019 5:55:07 GMT
God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow scripture says. He doesn't like images given too much attention. I don't wear crosses. Did Jesus and the apostles teach that? How can Christian imagery and symbolism be in error or a sin, if the early Church did not find that practice to be wrong? The purpose of these symbols and art is to tell a story and to glory to God, to glorify Christ. Jesus and the apostles didn't have graven images because it was wrong. Many churches are wrong. Revelations even riduculed many of the churches for doing wrong. There's a difference with showing dedication to an image and using it as art. Any art book is fine where you can color it and stuff. But when you set special meaning to it and show dedication it's a sin. Daniel in the bible was very careful not to show any dedication to any image and it pleased God.
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