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Post by ajay0 on Mar 3, 2019 7:11:14 GMT
Hello all,
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light.... In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light.In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light). “God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity. In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.” So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions. Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.
Thanking in advance.
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Post by Maggy on Mar 4, 2019 3:12:13 GMT
I ignore mysticism in general. That makes me a bit curious about how you reached that conclusion.
Mysticism, whether Jewish, Christian, or Islamic, usually includes something like the perennial philosophy. Since that registers as atheistic to you, you would reject mystical religion as true religion.
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Post by karl on Mar 4, 2019 3:25:03 GMT
I ignore mysticism in general. That makes me a bit curious about how you reached that conclusion.
Mysticism, whether Jewish, Christian, or Islamic, usually includes something like the perennial philosophy. Since that registers as atheistic to you, you would reject mystical religion as true religion.
Hmm... I think I would feel rather foolish if I engaged you in a discussion on a topic you seem to know much more about than myself.
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Post by Maggy on Mar 4, 2019 3:39:32 GMT
Hmm... I think I would feel rather foolish if I engaged you in a discussion on a topic you seem to know much more about than myself.
I'm just fascinated by the culture, so I read a lot of history. I'm definitely not an expert.
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Post by Nicholas on Mar 4, 2019 3:52:27 GMT
This may complicate or simplify, but there are many gods and some gods are more divine than others. However the more sublime & divine a god becomes the less personal human-like qualities are there. Therefore a god that expects obedience and gets angry if one does not obey, is less divine than a calm & peaceful one.
Throughout ancient cultures polytheism was pretty much the standard. So people could worship whichever one they preferred, although each nation or territory had a supreme god. In India these gods were called Shining Ones (devas in Sanskrit).
Another way to look at a personal god is psychologically. Deep with the mind or heart is our own reflection from the Divine. Not as glorious as the One Source, but it is our own personal deity. Yet since so few of us pray or meditate deeply or regularly, we are oblivious to our god within. So much so, that we conceptualize it as 'outside' of us. And in a way that is true, because that unknown obscure part of our mind or soul is truly 'separate' or 'outside' our normal awareness.
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Post by karl on Mar 4, 2019 4:19:24 GMT
This may complicate or simplify, but there are many gods and some gods are more divine than others. However the more sublime & divine a god becomes the less personal human-like qualities are there. Therefore a god that expects obedience and gets angry if one does not obey, is less divine than a calm & peaceful one. Throughout ancient cultures polytheism was pretty much the standard. So people could worship whichever one they preferred, although each nation or territory had a supreme god. In India these gods were called Shining Ones (devas in Sanskrit). Another way to look at a personal god is psychologically. Deep with the mind or heart is our own reflection from the Divine. Not as glorious as the One Source, but it is our own personal deity. Yet since so few of us pray or meditate deeply or regularly, we are oblivious to our god within. So much so, that we conceptualize it as 'outside' of us. And in a way that is true, because that unknown obscure part of our mind or soul is truly 'separate' or 'outside' our normal awareness.
Since I believe in neither revelations, nor in communicating directly with any deity, a connection with God would have to be through one's own subconsciousness. So what you refer to as psychological, might very well originate from what you refer to as the One source.
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Post by PISTON1246 on Mar 6, 2019 20:21:27 GMT
Light is something created by God according to Genesis chapter 1.
"God said let there be light and there was light."
God existed before there was any light.
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Post by vicky on Mar 7, 2019 17:11:05 GMT
All religions teach one basic discipline - the removal of the blemish of egoism from the mind, and of running after trivial joys. Every religion teaches man to fill his being with the Glory of God, and evict the pettiness of conceit. It trains him in methods of detachment and discrimination, so that he may aim high and attain liberation. Believe that all hearts are motivated by the one God; that all faiths glorify Him alone; that all names in all languages and all forms man can conceive denote the one Supreme Being; His adoration is best done by means of love. Cultivate that Eka-bhava (attitude of Oneness), between men of all creeds, all countries and all continents. That is the message of love, He brings. That is the message He wishes you to take to heart. www.sathyasai.org/logo/logo.htm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 17:42:44 GMT
Hi! Manichaeism and Akhenaton's sun cult both come to mind. I think most ancient societies held the sun as a divinity, but their conception of divinity might have been different from ours. There wasn't a clear distinction (if any at all) between science and religion. Are you thinking it was the sun that started many religions? Without sun there wouldn't be any life, kinda legit
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 7, 2019 17:54:32 GMT
Are you thinking it was the sun that started many religions? Without sun there wouldn't be any life, kinda legit Well, if these religions believe in a divine being/God then it wouldn't necessarily mean it's the sun that gives life but God. Since God made the sun and the people to keep them alive so it would point back to God as the starting point of religions and everything. Or you think differently?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 21:09:45 GMT
Without sun there wouldn't be any life, kinda legit Well, if these religions believe in a divine being/God then it wouldn't necessarily mean it's the sun that gives life but God. Since God made the sun and the people to keep them alive so it would point back to God as the starting point of religions and everything. Or you think differently? The role of a creator is too limited to describe God. Everything that animates is God. u me sun are all essence of God. Given the function and significance the sun holds and since u mentioned creator is God. People in the stone ages did analyze without sun there wouldn't be any life, hence historically speaking that's how it got originated. Later humanity discovered new revelations and there were far more significant things than the Sun. Basically I am strictly speaking from the pov of its interpretation and how God got the name of light. The names of God's are more like features that are observable
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 7, 2019 21:15:18 GMT
Well, if these religions believe in a divine being/God then it wouldn't necessarily mean it's the sun that gives life but God. Since God made the sun and the people to keep them alive so it would point back to God as the starting point of religions and everything. Or you think differently? The role of a creator is too limited to describe God. Everything that animates is God. u me sun are all essence of God. Given the function and significance the sun holds and since u mentioned creator is God. People in the stone ages did analyze without sun there wouldn't be any life, hence historically speaking that's how it got originated. Later humanity discovered new revelations and there were far more significant things than the Sun. Basically I am strictly speaking from the pov of its interpretation and how God got the name of light. The names of God's are more like features that are observable Other galaxies have a sun too but no life. So can the sun really be contributed to life?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 21:21:58 GMT
The role of a creator is too limited to describe God. Everything that animates is God. u me sun are all essence of God. Given the function and significance the sun holds and since u mentioned creator is God. People in the stone ages did analyze without sun there wouldn't be any life, hence historically speaking that's how it got originated. Later humanity discovered new revelations and there were far more significant things than the Sun. Basically I am strictly speaking from the pov of its interpretation and how God got the name of light. The names of God's are more like features that are observable Other galaxies have a sun too but no life. So can the sun really be contributed to life? That's what I said, as they were limited on earth hence formed their conclusions. They were not flying around other galaxies. There are microbes if not humans on other planets. The planet itself is conscious and moving, its a big ball of life itself.
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Post by ajay0 on Oct 3, 2019 7:12:25 GMT
Hello all, I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light.... In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light.In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light). “God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity. In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.” So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions. Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.
Thanking in advance. Nice findings! I only knew the Christianity one. Did you manage to find out why all of them have this correlation?
Yes, it is possible that the essence of God is self-luminous in nature.
The holy scripture of Guru Granth Sahib in the monotheistic religion of Sikhism states thus...
His light is in everything, He Himself is the Light.(13-5, DnwsrI, m 1 ).
There are also many references to light in the Bahai religious scriptures as well...
"This is the Day whereon naught can be seen except the splendors of the Light that shineth from the face of Thy Lord, the Gracious, the Most Bountiful."
(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 29)
"The Prophets of God are the Mediators of God. All the Prophets and Messengers have come from One Holy Spirit and bear the Message of God, fitted to the age in which they appear. The One Light is in them and they are One with each other."
(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 24)
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