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Post by fschmidt on Jan 7, 2019 19:52:22 GMT
www.mikraite.org/Is-the-Old-Testament-obsolete-tp1953.htmlI don't mean that the Old Testament is obsolete because its ideas no longer apply. I mean that the Old Testament is obsolete because we are now living in an idiocracy where almost no one has the intelligence to understand it. Judaism and modern Christianity have no idea what the Old Testament is about. But Jesus and Muhammad clearly understood it. I think even Christians during the Enlightenment (1600s and 1700s) had a fair understanding of the Old Testament. But we seem to be living in the most stupid time in history. This may be partly because of the dysgenic effect of modern culture. But also because of the brain damage caused by excessive use of electronics by children. Whatever the reason, the drop in intelligence that I have seen in my lifetime has been unbelievable, and this may well render the Old Testament obsolete. Religions can be categorized by whether they work for smart or stupid people. Islam, Judaism, and traditional Christianity work for both. Modern Christianity and modern Western culture only work for stupid people. The Old Testament, by itself, only works for smart people which is why it never produced a popular religion. But as a part of the traditional Christian Bible, the Old Testament was undoubtedly appreciated by smart traditional Christians. Today there is no one left to appreciate the Old Testament. I think it is time for me to accept this fact.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 15, 2019 5:18:40 GMT
No you are saying evil is love in truth! You know I am the one that has been judged and Chosen. I am that one that deals directly with Devils. I am the one that God Taught these things to while devils tried to deceive me back beating great odds and adversity from the Devils like you can not even imagine. I am trying to help you save yourself. You think you are saved by that whore of Babylon called the Holy Ghost. Who did in fact ask me to be her Groom! You honestly think you know better than the one revealing these evil things as you try to reason the truth away and make it something that is not holy holy just so you wont have to admit your wrong. But you will not get out of it! You're not convincing anybody... Well you could not possibly be more wrong. except that I am not convincing you fools. That part is pure truth. I have warned both of you. I have given every tool you need to beat that mark of the beast you love so much. When God tells you. You will know how foolish you both have been. I hope I get to be there when he tells you. I want to be there smiling. Laughing on the inside with a heart full of I told you so! So it sinks in real good and you never make a mistake like this again. You fight for Devils and think them God! Than dare to call me the fool! I don't like you never have! This is why you are a blind fool. A priest spreading the mark of the beast holy! Than lie about what I reveal to you in your heart to yourself. Which is fine that is a inner disease. But you spread it outward and have no idea how big of a sin you do in it. Bigger than most because you been told and given every tool God gave me to beat it!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 15, 2019 5:23:04 GMT
You're not convincing anybody... Well you could not possibly be more wrong. except that I am not convincing you fools. That part is pure truth. I have warned both of you. I have given every tool you need to beat that mark of the beast you love so much. When God tells you. You will know how foolish you both have been. I hope i get to be there when he tells you. I want to be these smiling Laughing on the inside with a heart full of i told you so! So it sinks in real good and you never make a mistake like this again. You fight for Devils and think them God!
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Post by prophettom on Jan 15, 2019 17:50:05 GMT
Well you could not possibly be more wrong. except that I am not convincing you fools. That part is pure truth. I have warned both of you. I have given every tool you need to beat that mark of the beast you love so much. When God tells you. You will know how foolish you both have been. I hope i get to be there when he tells you. I want to be these smiling Laughing on the inside with a heart full of i told you so! So it sinks in real good and you never make a mistake like this again. You fight for Devils and think them God! <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 12px; top: 270px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90593901" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 115px; top: 270px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_39536730" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 12px; top: 300px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_68999819" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 115px; top: 300px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_9341659" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> Mathew 7:5 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
This is the thing you have forced me too! even though he has empowered evil in the dainty things he said this one applies to you! And the beam you see in mine is the true light of what must change to have true peace. For how can one have peace if they only speak the laws of false peace Given by Satan as holy? Than say they are to be practiced. In the same thought say they shall come of peace! You are the hypocrite! there is no nice way to tell you!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 16, 2019 0:36:54 GMT
<iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 12px; top: 270px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90593901" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 115px; top: 270px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_39536730" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 12px; top: 300px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_68999819" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 3.14px; height: 1.64px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 115px; top: 300px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_9341659" scrolling="no" width="3.1400000000000006" height="1.6400000000000006"></iframe> Mathew 7:5 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. This is the thing you have forced me too! even though he has empowered evil in the dainty things he said this one applies to you! And the beam you see in mine is the true light of what must change to have true peace. For how can one have peace if they only speak the laws of false peace Given by Satan as holy? Than say they are to be practiced. In the same thought say they shall come of peace! You are the hypocrite! there is no nice way to tell you!
It seems it is very difficult for you to have a decent discussion with other people without calling them names or accusing them of something. Nothing beneficial is coming from discussions with you. According to the Bible, the only thing of Satan here is what you're proposing. It is some sort of antichrist doctrine, uses absolutely no exegetical analysis of scripture, and completely disregards the consistency of all things within scripture. It is a very odd eisegetical interpretation of scripture that would otherwise deceive those who are haven't set their faith on a solid foundation.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 16, 2019 2:11:25 GMT
Mathew 7:5 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. This is the thing you have forced me too! even though he has empowered evil in the dainty things he said this one applies to you! And the beam you see in mine is the true light of what must change to have true peace. For how can one have peace if they only speak the laws of false peace Given by Satan as holy? Than say they are to be practiced. In the same thought say they shall come of peace! You are the hypocrite! there is no nice way to tell you!
It seems it is very difficult for you to have a decent discussion with other people without calling them names or accusing them of something. Nothing beneficial is coming from discussions with you. According to the Bible, the only thing of Satan here is what you're proposing. It is some sort of antichrist doctrine, uses absolutely no exegetical analysis of scripture, and completely disregards the consistency of all things within scripture. It is a very odd eisegetical interpretation of scripture that would otherwise deceive those who are haven't set their faith on a solid foundation. The Anti Christ must be. For with out him these things are never revealed. There is no room in my heart or my prophecy to help you empower these OBVIOUS LIES! It is flat out common sense. It is of God. What you do is the exact same thing that he had against eve for thinking these misdirection's of truth taught with sweet words. When you learn how pure of a truth this is you will be ashamed of yourself. That is the devils goal in this. It is when Adam says he too believes these things as true and just he was cast out with them. In truth they may well have been the offspring of those fallen. So they had long lives of near a thousand years. And in time they figured out how to make them have shorter lives yet. For you will not live that long and never see the deceit it is. Therefor it was tainted blood with tainted lessons. Making them evil at heart and not know it. Just like you! There is no way to be nice when you are Gods chosen and know for a fact why these things must be taught against and never tolerate the argument that would empower them as holy. Every argument you give me is hypocrisies of the real truth. Than you want to blame me as hateful for having no tolerance to listen to those lies and stating the facts of what your arguments really is. Your fear owns your heart. because you know i am right and fear hell. But this is about the death of those lies. They can no longer be tolerated in the days to come. So I do not tolerate them now. I will never confirm what is not holy as holy yo please you or anyone else! God is coming. he will let you know how foolish you are being. Were you expect reward you will find scorn. For you are of the religion that is known as the great tribulation. You think me to guide you to it when I give you what you need to free yourself from it. The truth is Satan and his kind could not be prouder of you. That is a bad thing for you empower the beast best when you speak of these things be holy! YOU WILL NOT GET OUT OF THIS! WHAT I HAVE TOLD YOU IS THE ONLY TRUTH THERE IS TO TELL ABOUT THAT! So despite i do not like you for your ignorance on these matters I tell you anyway. Because your kind are counted in the numbers of the fallen. Fear binds your heart to the lessons of false peace as holy! There is no way to tell someone with out them being offended so i just bluntly tell you why you are the fool of a fearful heart! That cast that beast as holy in the minds of others with that doubled edge sword of a tongue. Say one thing that is indeed holy than try to endorse the evil things given with it as holy too! We can ill afford niceties to your kind as long as you want to cherish the Blasphemies you speak against God thinking you worship his real truth! Which I alone have given you! Because this Anti Christ must be to reveal the truth of these injustices thought holy they made you fear it often! You fear the truth for your fear of hell and death! than want to empower death and hell as the most holy way to get and keep peace. You only speak babble. You don.t get it both. For to think hell and death are the ultimate answer to obtain peace is in fact to worship the pale horse and rider as the most holy. You honestly argue that you want a end to those things but empower them always in such laws. Sine when has it ever been just to have a double standard in any law? That means with your answers there will always be hell and death! For they do travel the stars with no death at all! I have seen the proof of that too! In real life and not a vision!
I walk with them and i warn you that you best wise up or scorn will be all you know for this! These lies must die! The men that want to empower them must be dealt with harshly so they finally understand why this is a fallen world! I walk with them! YOU READ A BOOK!
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Post by prophettom on Jan 16, 2019 2:25:45 GMT
Intolerance for the lies you keep as holy is the only way out! So these discussions are very purposeful even if you do not like that I must tell you why you are wrong. For the seed of truth is planted in them, It will be easier for you to know them as truth when you meet God because of it. It is your foolishness that makes you think them of no gain for you! Besides this is not a discussion this is the unwavering teaching of the real truth. You deceive yourself to think it is a discussion at all. This is God working through his messenger to tell you. No tolerance for those lies is where this all was always going to! Your arguments are the arguments of those who did not understand why what you think is holy is the forbidden fruit! It is not a discussion its a lesson ace! Sure wish you would wise up so I could show you the kindness you seek. But this world is as it is because of what you do. You are the disease and I am the cure sent to you!
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Post by PISTON1246 on Jan 16, 2019 21:33:28 GMT
FSCHMIDT I NO LONGER HAVE A NEW TESTAMENT WITH ME AS I GAVE IT AWAY. I PREFER TO READ AN ACTUAL BOOK AS I DO NOT SPEND MUCH TIME AND EVERY DAY ON THE COMPUTER OR WITH A PHONE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH MOST WEBSITES.
I WAS GIVEN BACK A QURAN I GAVE TO SOMEONE BEFORE AND I STARTED READING IT AGAIN. IN SURAH 2 IT SAYS THAT THE TORAH AND GOSPEL COME FROM ISLAMIC MONOTHEISM.
JESUS IS NOT A FOREIGN GOD AND IS A PROPHET AND I THINK THE LAST SURAH I READ THAT MENTIONS JESUS IS SURAH 3 SO I WILL REFER TO HIM BY NAME NOW.
WHICH VERSION OR VERSIONS OF THE QURAN HAVE YOU READ?
I REMEMBER READING OF THE PSALMS AND PROVERBS AND SOLOMON IN THERE IN A DIFFERENT VERSION FROM THE QURAN I HAVE NOW.
I GUESS THAT BELIEVING IN THE TORAH MAKES ME MUSLIM STILL.
NO MORE BEER AS ALCOHOL IS PROHIBITED IN THE QURAN AND NO MORE GAMBLING FOR ME.
ACCORDING TO THE QURAN EVERY HUMAN WILL DIE SOME DAY AND THEY WILL BE RESURRECTED TO BE JUDGED BY ALLAH AS TO WHETHER THEY WILL BE GOING TO PARADISE OR HELL. IF YOU DIE AS A NON BELIVER IN ISLAM YOU WILL GO TO HELL.
I REMEMBER READING THAT THE DAY OF THE HEREAFTER IS KNOWN ONLY TO ALLAH. SO I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE TO REMAIN A BELIEVER AND NOT BE TAKEN TO DEATH BY SURPRISE AND MEET ALLAH.
YOU MUST BE A BELIEVER AND HAVE A SCALE HEAVY WITH GOOD DEEDS. GOOD DEEDS DONE WITHOUT FAITH IN ISLAM WILL MAKE MY DEEDS USELESS AND OF NO VALUE TO ALLAH.
THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT IS NOT CONFIRMED BY THE QURAN BUT DEFINITELY THE TORAH WHICH I STILL HAVE IN MY POSSESSION TODAY.
I BELIEVE YOU ASKED BEFORE IF YOU SHOULD BE A MUSLIM AND I SAY THE ANSWER IS YES. FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT.
CHRISTIANITY IS THE BELIEF THAT GOD HAS A SON. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU WILL FIND GOD BEING QUOTED IN THE BIBLE SAYING HE HAS A SON. THE BELIEF THAT GOD HAS A SON HAS NO BASIS IN SCRIPTURE. THE QURAN SATES THAT ALLAH OR GOD HAS NO SON AND NO PARTNER.
THERE IS NONE WORTHY OF WORSHIP OTHER THAN ALLAH OR GOD IN ENGLISH.
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Post by prophettom on Jan 16, 2019 21:59:23 GMT
FSCHMIDT I NO LONGER HAVE A NEW TESTAMENT WITH ME AS I GAVE IT AWAY. I PREFER TO READ AN ACTUAL BOOK AS I DO NOT SPEND MUCH TIME AND EVERY DAY ON THE COMPUTER OR WITH A PHONE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH MOST WEBSITES. I WAS GIVEN BACK A QURAN I GAVE TO SOMEONE BEFORE AND I STARTED READING IT AGAIN. IN SURAH 2 IT SAYS THAT THE TORAH AND GOSPEL COME FROM ISLAMIC MONOTHEISM. JESUS IS NOT A FOREIGN GOD AND IS A PROPHET AND I THINK THE LAST SURAH I READ THAT MENTIONS JESUS IS SURAH 3 SO I WILL REFER TO HIM BY NAME NOW. WHICH VERSION OR VERSIONS OF THE QURAN HAVE YOU READ? I REMEMBER READING OF THE PSALMS AND PROVERBS AND SOLOMON IN THERE IN A DIFFERENT VERSION FROM THE QURAN I HAVE NOW. I GUESS THAT BELIEVING IN THE TORAH MAKES ME MUSLIM STILL. NO MORE BEER AS ALCOHOL IS PROHIBITED IN THE QURAN AND NO MORE GAMBLING FOR ME. ACCORDING TO THE QURAN EVERY HUMAN WILL DIE SOME DAY AND THEY WILL BE RESURRECTED TO BE JUDGED BY ALLAH AS TO WHETHER THEY WILL BE GOING TO PARADISE OR HELL. IF YOU DIE AS A NON BELIVER IN ISLAM YOU WILL GO TO HELL. I REMEMBER READING THAT THE DAY OF THE HEREAFTER IS KNOWN ONLY TO ALLAH. SO I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE TO REMAIN A BELIEVER AND NOT BE TAKEN TO DEATH BY SURPRISE AND MEET ALLAH. YOU MUST BE A BELIEVER AND HAVE A SCALE HEAVY WITH GOOD DEEDS. GOOD DEEDS DONE WITHOUT FAITH IN ISLAM WILL MAKE MY DEEDS USELESS AND OF NO VALUE TO ALLAH. THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT IS NOT CONFIRMED BY THE QURAN BUT DEFINITELY THE TORAH WHICH I STILL HAVE IN MY POSSESSION TODAY. I BELIEVE YOU ASKED BEFORE IF YOU SHOULD BE A MUSLIM AND I SAY THE ANSWER IS YES. FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT. CHRISTIANITY IS THE BELIEF THAT GOD HAS A SON. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU WILL FIND GOD BEING QUOTED IN THE BIBLE SAYING HE HAS A SON. THE BELIEF THAT GOD HAS A SON HAS NO BASIS IN SCRIPTURE. THE QURAN SATES THAT ALLAH OR GOD HAS NO SON AND NO PARTNER. THERE IS NONE WORTHY OF WORSHIP OTHER THAN ALLAH OR GOD IN ENGLISH. God indeed has many sons. Allah is one. For he is not the first and last whatsoever. He is in big trouble with God for he is a Deceiver that was left to dwell with man to learn a lesson. Cast for heaven with all the comforts there of into a stone age for the hate they harbor against God for not allowing them the evil they wish to follow there. The law of Allah is indeed evil and keeps you divided from the truth and each other. This Idea that you must beleive or you go to hell is a Devils creation. To think hell and death in the law of God in a place were no pain and death shall be found as the most holy law of God is proof of the lies told ion that law for a start. JOIN NONE OF THEM! God is real! So are devils and ALL RELIGIONS ARE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! YOU TAKE THEM IN HAND AND READ THEM TO THE MEMORY OF YOUR HEAD AND TO THINK THEM HOLY IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST! THEY ALL HAVE THIS IN COMMON! SO IF YOU REJECT ONE YOU CAN BE MARKED WITH ANOTHER! THE PLAGUE HAS BEEN SO GREAT THAT IT IS IN ALL LAW OF THIS EARTH TOO! YOU BETTER WAKE UP AND READ THE POST I HAVE GIVEN IN THE CHRISTIAN FORUM AGAINST ALL RELIGION!
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Post by PISTON1246 on Mar 21, 2019 22:33:08 GMT
FSCHMIDT DO YOU REMEMBER EVER READING IN THE BOOK OF MATTHEW OR ANY OF THE OTHER GOSPELS THAT JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM SAID WE CAN EAT ALL FOODS?
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Post by fschmidt on Mar 21, 2019 22:56:15 GMT
FSCHMIDT DO YOU REMEMBER EVER READING IN THE BOOK OF MATTHEW OR ANY OF THE OTHER GOSPELS THAT JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM SAID WE CAN EAT ALL FOODS? Matthew 15:11
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Post by PISTON1246 on Mar 22, 2019 22:18:59 GMT
WHAT I GET OUT OF THAT VERSE IS THAT JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM IS SAYING THAT THE FOODS THAT GOD ALLAH SAID IN CHAPTER 11 OF LEVITCUS WERE UNCLEAN AND LEAD YOU TO UNCLEANESS ARE NOW PERMITTED TO BE EATEN AND THEY WILL NOT MAKE YOU UNCLEAN OR DEFILED.
I HAVE READ THAT THERE ARE MORE GOSPELS THAN THE 4 THAT ARE IN THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE.
I READ IN THE FIRST QURAN THAT I HAD THAT JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM AS TO ANSWER FOR HIS CLAIM THAT ALLAH HAS A SON.
I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE PROPHETS PEACE BE UPON THEM WERE MEN AND THAT LIKE ANY OTHER MAN THAT HAS PASSED AWAY AND IS NO LONGER ANYWHERE TO BE FOUND ON EARTH IS IN THE SAME PLACE WAITING TO BE RESURRECTED AND JUDGED BY ALLAH ON THE DAY OF RECOMPENSE.
WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE DAY OF RESURRECTION TO GET INTO PARADISE AND WE ONLY GET THERE IF AND WHEN ALLAH APPROVES OF US. WE HUMANS WILL ALL EXPERIENCE DEATH LIKE THE QURAN SAYS AND OUR GOAL IS TO BE ON GOOD TERMS WITH ALLAH WHEN WE DIE.
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Post by fschmidt on Mar 22, 2019 22:28:41 GMT
I READ IN THE FIRST QURAN THAT I HAD THAT JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM AS TO ANSWER FOR HIS CLAIM THAT ALLAH HAS A SON. Where? I don't think the Quran says this. I don't believe that Jesus claimed this. I think the New Testament is just wrong.
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Post by PISTON1246 on Mar 22, 2019 22:34:54 GMT
I READ IN THE FIRST QURAN THAT I HAD THAT JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM AS TO ANSWER FOR HIS CLAIM THAT ALLAH HAS A SON. Where? I don't think the Quran says this. I don't believe that Jesus claimed this. I think the New Testament is just wrong. I THINK YOU WILL FIND IT IN SURAT OR SURAH 3. I AM NOT SURE AS I DO NOT HAVE MY FIRST QURAN TO COMPARE WITH MY CURRENT ONE BUT I THINK SOME QURANS SAY SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS AND MAY HAVE ENTIRE VERSES MISSING. I HOPE THIS IS NOT THE CASE BUT I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE SOME PEOPLE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PRODUCING QURANS THAT ARE NOT PURE AND HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED. I REMEMBER IT SAID IN READING MULTIPLE QURANS THAT SOME MOSQUES ARE NOT PIOUS AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIMS ARE INTENT ON MISLEADING OTHERS WHO ARE IN THE FAITH AND SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE ALREADY PUT OUT TAINTED QURANS. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND LET US NOT BE MISLEAD BY THOSE WHO WORK FOR IBLEES OR SATAN WHO IS A VOWED ENEMY TO ALL HUMANS INCLUDING THOSE WHO SIDE WITH HIM.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Mar 23, 2019 3:46:10 GMT
I’m an Agnostic-Atheist but I like to read the Old Testament. There is wisdom I have found in the writings.
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Post by fschmidt on Mar 23, 2019 3:57:34 GMT
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