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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 4, 2018 4:30:34 GMT
I think he's hilarious. People get ready to make planets in 6 days just by talking, walk on water without using anything, part the sea with nothing, etc. When can science do this is my question?  |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Sept 4, 2018 4:55:41 GMT
Science can’t explain away the miracles of the Bible  yea he’s a comedian😝 |
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Post by Tom Lawton on Sept 6, 2018 12:06:38 GMT
It's not as if science tries to explain the miracles of the bible. The bible has little to no involvement with scientific research (unless you count answers in Genesis as scientific research). Science doesn't try to explain miracles, because neither does Christianity.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 6, 2018 18:14:16 GMT
It's not as if science tries to explain the miracles of the bible. The bible has little to no involvement with scientific research (unless you count answers in Genesis as scientific research). Science doesn't try to explain miracles, because neither does Christianity. Miracles can't be explained though that's why we just call them miracles. Even doctors had many miracles happen to patients and they can't explain those miracles. Shrug |
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Post by Tom Lawton on Sept 6, 2018 20:49:25 GMT
It's not as if science tries to explain the miracles of the bible. The bible has little to no involvement with scientific research (unless you count answers in Genesis as scientific research). Science doesn't try to explain miracles, because neither does Christianity. Miracles can't be explained though that's why we just call them miracles. Even doctors had many miracles happen to patients and they can't explain those miracles.  I think it also depends on the context. In medicine, I'd say that a 'miracle' likely does have an explanation, but due to time constraints doctors simply move on to other patients, they don't need to do anything more for the miraculous patient, so they just leave it. If the miraculous patients went to a laboratory for research it could most likely be explained, but if it's not a major disease or condition there's not much point in studying the recovery anyway. If there are any cases where people have miraculously recovered from incredibly deadly diseases and conditions that you know of, I'd genuinely like to read about them. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 6, 2018 21:06:40 GMT
Miracles can't be explained though that's why we just call them miracles. Even doctors had many miracles happen to patients and they can't explain those miracles. I think it also depends on the context. In medicine, I'd say that a 'miracle' likely does have an explanation, but due to time constraints doctors simply move on to other patients, they don't need to do anything more for the miraculous patient, so they just leave it. If the miraculous patients went to a laboratory for research it could most likely be explained, but if it's not a major disease or condition there's not much point in studying the recovery anyway. If there are any cases where people have miraculously recovered from incredibly deadly diseases and conditions that you know of, I'd genuinely like to read about them. Yes there are several cases. There's even a movie about one where a little girl had a disease that had no cure and she got miraculously cured. I'll find it and link it to you  |
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 7, 2018 1:51:24 GMT
Miracles can't be explained though that's why we just call them miracles. Even doctors had many miracles happen to patients and they can't explain those miracles. I think it also depends on the context. In medicine, I'd say that a 'miracle' likely does have an explanation, but due to time constraints doctors simply move on to other patients, they don't need to do anything more for the miraculous patient, so they just leave it. If the miraculous patients went to a laboratory for research it could most likely be explained, but if it's not a major disease or condition there's not much point in studying the recovery anyway. If there are any cases where people have miraculously recovered from incredibly deadly diseases and conditions that you know of, I'd genuinely like to read about them. Here's one miracle about a little girl that was cured miraculously from a disease there's no cure from. Her story became into a movie even. I thought the movie was pretty interesting and was so sad because family went broke trying to help their girl with different doctors to be told the doctors couldn't do anything for them. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3502738/Mommy-just-want-die-little-girl-story-told-Miracles-Heaven-just-wanted-suffering-end-days-later-miraculously-cured-Jesus-fell-hollow-tree.html |
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 7, 2018 6:03:35 GMT
How does nature do miracles? Well, any things which comes after another things would be considered as causal reason. We see one phenomena comes after some certain actions, and we call it the law if it's a necessary regular event. So, you can hold all the natural science as magic without declaring any wrong statements. But the nature is not God, God isn't under control of rituals. Or in another words, we can't control God. The nature has no miracles as long as we think that anything that happens in the nature is under some kind of regularly. Regulations or the laws move the nature. But if nature can do magic or miracles then why doesn't it do it with proof? Like for example have a person turn into a different sex at puberty or the sun raining instead of giving light/heat or why not cloud drop seeds instead of rain always? |
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Post by system on Sept 24, 2018 8:10:43 GMT
I believe in god and in miracles  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 1:57:54 GMT
It's not as if science tries to explain the miracles of the bible. The bible has little to no involvement with scientific research (unless you count answers in Genesis as scientific research). Science doesn't try to explain miracles, because neither does Christianity. Miracles can't be explained though that's why we just call them miracles. Even doctors had many miracles happen to patients and they can't explain those miracles. What you are talking about is cases where no medical explanation for a recovery could be found. That doesn't mean there is no underlying explanation, only that the body can sometimes spontaneously assist in its own healing without medical intervention. (We know that the body is sometimes capable of this because of the placebo effect). That means we have a gap in our knowledge. Of course where there is a gap, theists have a habit of inserting their god and talking about miracles.
Cancer patients have been known to go into remission without any apparent cause. That doesn't mean there was divine intervention, only that there are some things beyond current medical knowledge (as there have always been and probably will always be no matter how much we advance). What has never happened is an amputee growing a new limb. Countless Christians must have prayed for such a miracle but it has never happened in the history of the world. I wonder why? Does God discriminate between cancer patients and amputees? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 2:04:57 GMT
I think he's hilarious. People get ready to make planets in 6 days just by talking, walk on water without using anything, part the sea with nothing, etc. When can science do this is my question? Science doesn't do. Science explains what is observed in nature.
The things you have listed are not observations. They are just tall stories which defy the laws of nature. Therefore they have nothing to do with science. |
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yea he’s a comedian😝
