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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 28, 2018 22:09:58 GMT
Is every Bible we have today an exact translation of God’s word? Simple answer is no. How can we say this? Well, since the time of Adam and Eve, Satan has been putting doubt into the hearts of man by questioning God’s very words. In the garden of Eden, Satan questioned what God commanded of Eve. Satan said to her, “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” questioning what God had commanded of Eve. Eve, knowing the commandment of God, repeats His commandment to her which God gave, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.” Satan then inserts a lie which instills doubt into Eve’s heart, “Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” This is a lesson to us to show, not only that we should not have doubt about God’s word, in that it is truth, but that Satan is out to question what God has told us and seemingly change what God has said. Satan is still doing this to this day, and he is doing it via bible versions/translations.  These are a few examples of changed words, removed words, and removed verses and parts of verses, that flat out change the meaning of what is being said in scripture. Matthew 1:25 NIV [25] But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Matthew 1:25 KJV [25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. Notice, firstborn is changed in the NIV. This would lead the reader to believe that Jesus was not Mary’s firstborn and hence not a virgin. Though, in Luke 2:7 of the NIV, it does say firstborn, but why change the testimony of Matthew to begin with? To instill doubt into the reader’s heart of course, to make them question God’s word. Matthew 18:11 NIV (Entire verse removed) Matthew 18:11 KJV [11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. It is important to read this verse in its context, though the verse is very obvious in its meaning. Why were Jesus’s very words removed from the Bible? Again, Luke 19:10 does give this testimony by Christ, but the editor seems to have something against Matthew by taking out and changing parts of his testimony, which in turn instills doubt about the legitimacy of these testimonies into the heart of the reader. Acts 8:37 NIV (Entire verse removed) Acts 8:37 KJV [37] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. This verse is about baptism which becomes obvious when read in the context of which it is written. Without this verse in the context, the Bible says there isn’t anything that could stop someone from being baptized, but with it in the context, it says you must believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in order to be baptized. Why was this verse removed? This verse is important to the doctrine of baptism, but not only baptism, but to salvation. This removal instills doubt into the heart of the reader by removing the gospel of salvation through and Christ and Christ only. These are only a few examples. Over time, more will be added into the thread to show how bible versions/translations are being changed as it has been happening since the beginning. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 28, 2018 22:22:10 GMT
I never liked NIV. Has at least 17 known verses removed and now I see it's changing verses too. Unfreaken believable facepalm
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 29, 2018 7:00:19 GMT
Is every Bible we have today an exact translation of God’s word? Simple answer is no. How can we say this? Well, since the time of Adam and Eve, Satan has been putting doubt into the hearts of man by questioning God’s very words. In the garden of Eden, Satan questioned what God commanded of Eve. Satan says to her, “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” questioning what God had commanded of Eve. Eve, knowing the commandment of God, repeats His commandment to her which God gave, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.” Satan then inserts a lie which instills doubt into Eve’s heart, “Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” This is a lesson to us to show, not only that we should not have doubt about God’s word, in that it is truth, but that Satan is out to question what God has told us and seemingly change what God has said. Satan is still doing this to this day, and he is doing it via bible versions/translations. These are a few examples of changed words, removed words, and removed verses and parts of verses, that flat out change the meaning of what is being said in scripture. Matthew 1:25 NIV [25] But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Matthew 1:25 KJV [25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. Notice, firstborn is changed in the NIV. This would lead the reader to believe that Jesus was not Mary’s firstborn and hence not a virgin. Though, in Luke 2:7 of the NIV, it does say firstborn, but why change the testimony of Matthew to begin with? To instill doubt into the reader’s heart of course, to make them question God’s word. Matthew 18:11 NIV (Entire verse removed) Matthew 18:11 KJV [11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. It is important to read this verse in its context, though the verse is very obvious in its meaning. Why were Jesus’s very words removed from the Bible? Again, Luke 19:10 does give this testimony by Christ, but the editor seems to have something against Matthew by taking out and changing parts of his testimony, which in turn instills doubt about the legitimacy of these testimonies into the heart of the reader. Acts 8:37 NIV (Entire verse removed) Acts 8:37 KJV [37] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. This verse is about baptism which becomes obvious when read in the context of which it is written. Without this verse in the context, the Bible says there isn’t anything that could stop someone from being baptized, but with it in the context, it says you must believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in order to be baptized. Why was this verse removed? This verse is important to the doctrine of baptism, but not only baptism, but to salvation. This removal instills doubt into the heart of the reader by removing the gospel of salvation through and Christ and Christ only. These are only a few examples. Over time, more will be added into the thread to show how bible versions/translations are being changed as it has been happening since the beginning. Do you believe in the Illuminati? Not the Bavarian one; the modern conspiracy theory. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 29, 2018 7:15:56 GMT
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 29, 2018 7:20:48 GMT
Well, the image he has says, "New World Order insider exposes planed (that is planned spelled wrong) Bible corruption in 1969." The New World Order is the newest iteration of the Illuminati conspiracy theory. Bonus points that it seems to be from from Chick publications. Jack Chick who owns Chick publications is a complete nut. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/ChickTracts |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 29, 2018 7:23:02 GMT
Well, the image he has says, "New World Order insider exposes planed (that is planned spelled wrong) Bible corruption in 1969." The New World Order is the newest iteration of the Illuminati conspiracy theory. Bonus points that it seems to be from from Chick publications. Jack Chick who owns Chick publications is a complete nut. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/ChickTracts A New World Order to be feared will not be based on the Bible or Christianity. |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 29, 2018 7:26:40 GMT
Well, the image he has says, "New World Order insider exposes planed (that is planned spelled wrong) Bible corruption in 1969." The New World Order is the newest iteration of the Illuminati conspiracy theory. Bonus points that it seems to be from from Chick publications. Jack Chick who owns Chick publications is a complete nut. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/ChickTracts A New World Order to be feared will not be based on the Bible or Christianity. No, its not, but there are some crazy Pastors who believe in the Illuminati conspiracy and regularly talk about it from the pulpit. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 29, 2018 7:32:22 GMT
A New World Order to be feared will not be based on the Bible or Christianity. No, its not, but there are some crazy Pastors who believe in the Illuminati conspiracy and regularly talk about it from the pulpit. Well, there are reasons for such a conspiracy, of course, but there is a lot of speculation on how this will happen. No one knows all thue so it is better not to make speculation. |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 29, 2018 7:36:05 GMT
No, its not, but there are some crazy Pastors who believe in the Illuminati conspiracy and regularly talk about it from the pulpit. Well, there are reasons for such a conspiracy, of course, but there is a lot of speculation on how this will happen. No one knows all thue so it is better not to make speculation. I don't believe it unless someone supplies some kind of proof. Anyways, none of this is to take away from what DKtrav88 says about the NIV. I'm just curious if he believes in the conspiracy theory. |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 29, 2018 8:09:33 GMT
A New World Order to be feared will not be based on the Bible or Christianity. No, its not, but there are some crazy Pastors who believe in the Illuminati conspiracy and regularly talk about it from the pulpit. The only Illuminati I’m familiar with is the Bavarian secret society. I believe there is a new world order in the works, if it isn’t already here. Is there proof? Well, that depends on what you consider proof I guess shrug No, the image is not from chick publications. How far have you delved into this subject? I don’t really want to get off topic here either, so these posts may have to be moved eventually. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 29, 2018 8:12:48 GMT
Illuminati sounds like a painting to me Shrug
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 29, 2018 8:28:50 GMT
Illuminati sounds like a painting to me Shrug Don’t google “Illuminati painting” unless you wanna see a bunch of weird satanic paintings and images facepalm |
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 29, 2018 8:46:34 GMT
Illuminati sounds like a painting to me Shrug Don’t google “Illuminati painting” unless you wanna see a bunch of weird satanic paintings and images facepalm Yeah no. I see enough of images and stuff like that. I don't need an overdose of it  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 10:49:03 GMT
Illuminati sounds like a painting to me  Don’t google “Illuminati painting” unless you wanna see a bunch of weird satanic paintings and images  let me see them, how much SATAN can defeat me. |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 29, 2018 15:27:12 GMT
Luke 11:2-4 NIV
[2] He said to them, “When you pray, say: “‘Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come.
[3] Give us each day our daily bread.
[4] Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.’”
Luke 11:2-4 KJV
[2] And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
[3] Give us day by day our daily bread.
[4] And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
According to the NIV Lord’s Prayer, our Father in heaven isn’t in heaven, His will shouldn’t be done on earth, and He shouldn’t deliver us from evil. Why is half of the Lord’s Prayer removed?
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