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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 12, 2018 3:20:07 GMT
A side by side comparison of Roman Catholic teachings and Biblical doctrine. Roman Catholic Teachings
1)The bishops, with the pope as their head, rule the universal Church.
2)God has entrusted revelation to the bishops.
3)The pope is infallible in his teaching.
4)Scripture and Tradition together are the Word of God.
5)Mary is the co-redeemer, for she participated with Christ in the painful act of redemption.
6)Mary is the co-mediator, to whom we can entrust all our cares and petitions.
7)Initial justification is by means of baptism.
8)Adults must prepare for justification through faith and good works.
9)Grace is merited by good works.
10)Salvation is attained by cooperating with grace through faith, good works, and participation in the sacraments.
11)No one can know if he will attain to eternal life.
12)The Roman Catholic Church is necessary for salvation.
13)Christ's body and blood exist wholly and entirely in every fragment of consecrated bread and wine in every Roman Catholic church around the world.
14)The sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated in the sacrifice of the Mass.
15)Each sacrifice of the Mass appeases God's wrath against sin.
16)The sacrificial work of redemption is continually carried out through the sacrifice of the Mass.
| Biblical Doctrine
1)Christ, the head of the body, rules the universal church (Colossians 1:18).
2)God has entrusted revelation to the saints (Jude 3).
3)God alone is infallible (Numbers 23:19; Acts 17:11).
4)Scripture alone is the Word of God (John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:16,17; 2 Peter 1:20,21; Mark 7:1-13).
5)Christ alone is the Redeemer, for He alone suffered and died for sin (1 Peter 1:18,19).
6)Christ Jesus is the one mediator to whom we can entrust all our cares and petitions (1 Timothy 2:5; John 14:13,14; 1 Peter 5:7).
7)Justification is by faith alone (Romans 3:28).
8)God justifies ungodly sinners who believe (Romans 4:5). Good works are the result of salvation, not the cause (Ephesians 2:8-10).
9)Grace is a free gift (Romans 11:6).
10)Salvation is attained by grace through faith apart from works (Ephesians 2:10).
11)The believer can know that he has eternal life by the Word of God and the testimony of the Holy Spirit who indwells believers (1 John 5:13; Romans 8:16).
12)There is salvation in no one but the Lord Jesus Christ, “for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).
13)The bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Christ, and He is bodily present in heaven (1 Corinthians 11:23-25; Hebrews 10:12,13).
14)The sacrifice of the cross is finished (John 19:30).
15)The once-for-all sacrifice of the cross fully appeased God's wrath against sin (Hebrews 10:12-18).
16)The sacrificial work of redemption was finished when Christ gave His life for us on the cross (Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 1:3). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 22:16:52 GMT
Aliens? Yeah I'm ok not even going into weird level of the human mind. Christ is the new Adam. It only applies to people from Adam not some weird aliens from elsewhere who are not from Adam. I divide from this belief too then ...so much for Protestantism pushing the limits of reason.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 13, 2018 22:34:26 GMT
Aliens? Yeah I'm ok not even going into weird level of the human mind. Christ is the new Adam. It only applies to people from Adam not some weird aliens from elsewhere who are not from Adam. I divide from this belief too then ...so much for Protestantism pushing the limits of reason. Sounds more like men pushing the limits of their imagination 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 13, 2018 22:36:05 GMT
Aliens? Yeah I'm ok not even going into weird level of the human mind. Christ is the new Adam. It only applies to people from Adam not some weird aliens from elsewhere who are not from Adam. I divide from this belief too then ...so much for Protestantism pushing the limits of reason. No, it's just everyone can have their own belief and stuff. I mean do you agree with a religion in India to worship cows? It's just each to his own basically.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 22:39:50 GMT
...so much for Protestantism pushing the limits of reason. Sounds more like men pushing the limits of their imagination 🤷🏼♂️ Laugh it off...I have disks and orbs in my back yard with multiple witnesses....hell my room was lit up by one. The world is not some small place you can put in a box and explain everything away by quoting obscure passages. The nature of interpreting scripture changes when place relative to other scriptures as a further degree of definition is necessary. If civilizations exist elsewhere with there own scripture and philosophy, what we understand of the scriptures must be expanded. The point, to refer back to my premises, is not specifically to discuss whether or not aliens exist, but rather how far the respective religion is willing to face advances in knowledge whether they are practical or in this case theoretical. This in itself is more dividing than taking a traditional sola scriptura approach only, considering the new boundaries of interpretation are in themselves dividing...as we can see here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 22:40:25 GMT
...so much for Protestantism pushing the limits of reason. No, it's just everyone can have their own belief and stuff. I mean do you agree with a religion in India to worship cows? It's just each to his own basically. Is that scriptural?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 13, 2018 22:43:13 GMT
No, it's just everyone can have their own belief and stuff. I mean do you agree with a religion in India to worship cows? It's just each to his own basically. Is that scriptural? Yes. That's why we have saints and sinners and division. We're free to choose our belief.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 22:48:06 GMT
Yes. That's why we have saints and sinners and division. We're free to choose our belief. Verse please.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 13, 2018 22:53:39 GMT
Yes. That's why we have saints and sinners and division. We're free to choose our belief. Verse please. Sure. We pick either left or right. Matthew 25:33 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world 41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 23:04:03 GMT
Sure. We pick either left or right. Matthew 25:33 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world 41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Those verse refer directly to God through the use of metaphor...reread them if you don't believe me.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 13, 2018 23:08:31 GMT
Sounds more like men pushing the limits of their imagination 🤷🏼♂️ Laugh it off...I have disks and orbs in my back yard with multiple witnesses....hell my room was lit up by one. The world is not some small place you can put in a box and explain everything away by quoting obscure passages. The nature of interpreting scripture changes when place relative to other scriptures as a further degree of definition is necessary. If civilizations exist elsewhere with there own scripture and philosophy, what we understand of the scriptures must be expanded. The point, to refer back to my premises, is not specifically to discuss whether or not aliens exist, but rather how far the respective religion is willing to face advances in knowledge whether they are practical or in this case theoretical. This in itself is more dividing than taking a traditional sola scriptura approach only, considering the new boundaries of interpretation are in themselves dividing...as we can see here. Interpretation comes down to whether you trust in man or in the Holy Spirit for understanding.
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Post by MEGA on Jun 13, 2018 23:09:49 GMT
(Full Armor of God)
Ephesians 6:10-18 King James Version (KJV)
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 23:18:26 GMT
Laugh it off...I have disks and orbs in my back yard with multiple witnesses....hell my room was lit up by one. The world is not some small place you can put in a box and explain everything away by quoting obscure passages. The nature of interpreting scripture changes when place relative to other scriptures as a further degree of definition is necessary. If civilizations exist elsewhere with there own scripture and philosophy, what we understand of the scriptures must be expanded. The point, to refer back to my premises, is not specifically to discuss whether or not aliens exist, but rather how far the respective religion is willing to face advances in knowledge whether they are practical or in this case theoretical. This in itself is more dividing than taking a traditional sola scriptura approach only, considering the new boundaries of interpretation are in themselves dividing...as we can see here. Interpretation comes down to whether you trust in man or in the Holy Spirit for understanding. Judge a tree by its fruits...Christian sects all say the same thing and yet are continually dividing.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 13, 2018 23:20:32 GMT
Interpretation comes down to whether you trust in man or in the Holy Spirit for understanding. Judge a tree by its fruits...Christian sects all say the same thing and yet are continually dividing. God has been dividing the light from the darkness since day one shrug
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 23:25:29 GMT
Judge a tree by its fruits...Christian sects all say the same thing and yet are continually dividing. God has been dividing the light from the darkness since day one Then it is divine will Catholicism and Orthodoxy exist as points of division within the faiths according to the reason and there legitimacy cannot be put to rational question.
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Post by MEGA on Jun 13, 2018 23:25:50 GMT
Matthew 23:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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