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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 11, 2018 21:50:12 GMT
Unfortunately, a lot of the users here have gotten a little paranoid, thinks I like talking to neo-Protestants((not to be confused with other Protestants)here at religious conversations. That's not so...my position has always been to prove that the opponent only thinks he's doing the Scriptures when in reality, as many people have noticed here, he only believes what's good for him! But my opponent, constantly rejects the facts without even reading them (very quickly did so, I noticed) which means that he is unfortunately not ready for dialogue here and takes a provocative position..He distracted me from the more necessary things here. Unfortunately, the Elizabeth protects it .. that makes religious conversations here useless for any user. This is a step down for the life of the forum!
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 12, 2018 20:03:40 GMT
@eodnhoj7 I think you have done this on 4 points to use the Bible to prove the importance of prayer to saints and Mary and more.. but your opponent is constantly reading these biblical truths and doesn't seem to understand what this is the answer is to his questions.He 1 point ..for such a disciple would not be transferred to the next class..just my subjective opinion! Arktos is not really a place to convert but to discuss different views so please remember that and debating is fine as long as members aren't insulted. But the issue is only you and eodnhoj7 see it in the bible and others see a "don't do it or else you go to hell." So, I don't think you will convert those thinking they'll go to hell to suddenly start praying to anyone else but God. It'll be like telling them to pray to Satan or at least it would be like that for me.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 12, 2018 21:15:04 GMT
@eodnhoj7 I think you have done this on 4 points to use the Bible to prove the importance of prayer to saints and Mary and more.. but your opponent is constantly reading these biblical truths and doesn't seem to understand what this is the answer is to his questions.He 1 point ..for such a disciple would not be transferred to the next class..just my subjective opinion! Arktos is not really a place to convert but to discuss different views so please remember that and debating is fine as long as members aren't insulted. But the issue is only you and eodnhoj7 see it in the bible and others see a "don't do it or else you go to hell." So, I don't think you will convert those thinking they'll go to hell to suddenly start praying to anyone else but God. It'll be like telling them to pray to Satan or at least it would be like that for me. Perfectly...then tell your friends that their opinions are only their opinions and their view of the situation... I always said that!
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 12, 2018 21:20:13 GMT
Arktos is not really a place to convert but to discuss different views so please remember that and debating is fine as long as members aren't insulted. But the issue is only you and eodnhoj7 see it in the bible and others see a "don't do it or else you go to hell." So, I don't think you will convert those thinking they'll go to hell to suddenly start praying to anyone else but God. It'll be like telling them to pray to Satan or at least it would be like that for me. Perfectly...then tell your friends that their opinions are only their opinions and their view of the situation... Shrug Oh he knows he's the only one using the bible to make his points and that you have other sources of opinion, don't worry. This is why you all disagree. Now just don't insult. That's the next step.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 12, 2018 21:23:00 GMT
Perfectly...then tell your friends that their opinions are only their opinions and their view of the situation... Oh he knows he's the only one using the bible to make his points and that you have other sources of opinion, don't worry. This is why you all disagree. Now just don't insult. That's the next step. Very bad uses(that is, how it turns out)...the subjective view is not an insult...
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 12, 2018 21:24:53 GMT
Diamond the dispute was dealt with already. Not sure why this is still being discussed Sigh
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 12, 2018 21:28:25 GMT
Diamond the dispute was dealt with already. why this is still being discussed just subjective results..nothing else. Shrug
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 12, 2018 21:30:06 GMT
...Although in reality the dispute now will not be because of your limitations - only a one-sided game...it's not fair in people's eyes!
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 12, 2018 21:38:48 GMT
...Although in reality the dispute now will not be because of your limitations - only a one-sided game... it's not fair in people's eyes!No religious thread has been one sided yet. I have no idea where you get this information.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 12, 2018 21:40:28 GMT
...Although in reality the dispute now will not be because of your limitations - only a one-sided game... it's not fair in people's eyes!No religious thread has been one sided yet. I have no idea where you get this information. What kind of information?
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Post by MEGA on Jun 13, 2018 0:41:39 GMT
His sheep hear His voice and they follow
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Post by MEGA on Jun 13, 2018 1:15:04 GMT
Also religion bring's death, where as Christ Brings Life!
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Post by MEGA on Jun 13, 2018 1:20:44 GMT
Unfortunately, the Elizabeth protects it .. that makes religious conversations here useless for any user. This is a step down for the life of the forum! She is Divinely guided
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 14:45:22 GMT
Arguments, intellectually speaking only, are a form of struggle and strife from which further truths are clarified, eradicated, and synthesized...in these respects they are not just inevitable but inherent within aspects of the human condition considering all of us, my self included, do not know the entire truth.
The issue of argument, and its necessity, finds fault when it judges the people and not the truth in itself. It would be more moral to argue a truth than to place judgement on who is and who is not going to heaven or hell.
My personal issue with theology is when saying "x" people are going to hell/heaven, rather than saying "x" action "leads" to heaven or hell. This is the problem I have, as a student of philosophy, when we rather divert our attention on judging people rather than judging truth.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 22, 2018 15:30:50 GMT
@eodnhoj7 The big problem here with the religious discuss..dk suffers defeat in the controversy and tries to arrange a provocation here to ban his opponent. As in the famous saying about a bad dancer )) xD
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 22, 2018 15:44:47 GMT
The conflict of interpretation is typical for many currents in Christianity. But when we see an entirely new approach to Scripture (supposedly Peter is a false apostle), then there is an strong association with Witnesses and Adventists.
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