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Post by Elizabeth on May 15, 2018 8:46:26 GMT
Yeah. There should be a church or gathering of the atheists as well to discuss their atheism and share their common interests.
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Post by fashtag on May 15, 2018 12:46:07 GMT
Yeah. There should be a church or gathering of the atheists as well to discuss their atheism and share their common interests. I assure you that no one would want to be there, least of all the atheists. Getting together to discuss the absence of belief in something is a pretty amusing idea though,  . |
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Post by Elizabeth on May 16, 2018 9:22:23 GMT
Technically, most scientists gather to discuss that they don't believe in God but science. So I suppose their meetings could be like an atheist church. Shrug
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Post by freestrongside88 on May 16, 2018 9:42:49 GMT
The only people who still deny creative design are those with a dog in the race, its so astronomically impossible. There are 11 organs in the human body, necessarily one of these systems are at least contingent on 272,727,272 base pairs, there are 5.53 x 10^33 (533 with 31 zeroes behind it) possible permutations of these base pairs, that is 1.28 x 10^6 (128 with 16 zeroes after it), times the supposed age in seconds of the universe. That means that to just get one of the 11 organ systems there would need to be a genetic mutation an average of 1.52 x 10 ^177 times PER SECOND. Simple math shows natrual evolution to be less likely than gods existence.
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Post by joustos on May 16, 2018 14:52:02 GMT
The only people who still deny creative design are those with a dog in the race, its so astronomically impossible. There are 11 organs in the human body, necessarily one of these systems are at least contingent on 272,727,272 base pairs, there are 5.53 x 10^33 (533 with 31 zeroes behind it) possible permutations of these base pairs, that is 1.28 x 10^6 (128 with 16 zeroes after it), times the supposed age in seconds of the universe. That means that to just get one of the 11 organ systems there would need to be a genetic mutation an average of 1.52 x 10 ^177 times PER SECOND. Simple math shows natrual evolution to be less likely than gods existence. Since you have re-opened an old issue in this thread I have a couple of pertinent questions. You mention the "age in seconds of the universe". This presupposes that the universe is finite in time, that it had a beginning. This is absurd. The universe, which is constantly changing, has no beginning and cannot have an end. The scientists themselves admit this in their own words: There is a conservation of matter or of energy, without additions or diminutions in the course of time. (Nobody knows what changes or mutations can take place in infinite time.) If there is a creative designer, then it is a particular being that adds other beings to itself: it is a finite being that had a beginning and can have an end. What realized such a God? Another God?--and so on to infinity. (The very idea of a creative designer is clearly based on an analogy with human artists or craftsmen!) |
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Post by freestrongside88 on May 16, 2018 19:20:08 GMT
The only people who still deny creative design are those with a dog in the race, its so astronomically impossible. There are 11 organs in the human body, necessarily one of these systems are at least contingent on 272,727,272 base pairs, there are 5.53 x 10^33 (533 with 31 zeroes behind it) possible permutations of these base pairs, that is 1.28 x 10^6 (128 with 16 zeroes after it), times the supposed age in seconds of the universe. That means that to just get one of the 11 organ systems there would need to be a genetic mutation an average of 1.52 x 10 ^177 times PER SECOND. Simple math shows natrual evolution to be less likely than gods existence. Since you have re-opened an old issue in this thread I have a couple of pertinent questions. You mention the "age in seconds of the universe". This presupposes that the universe is finite in time, that it had a beginning. This is absurd. The universe, which is constantly changing, has no beginning and cannot have an end. The scientists themselves admit this in their own words: There is a conservation of matter or of energy, without additions or diminutions in the course of time. (Nobody knows what changes or mutations can take place in infinite time.) If there is a creative designer, then it is a particular being that adds other beings to itself: it is a finite being that had a beginning and can have an end. What realized such a God? Another God?--and so on to infinity. (The very idea of a creative designer is clearly based on an analogy with human artists or craftsmen!) Thus the necessary time I took to type the word, "supposed" |
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