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Post by Διαμονδ on May 10, 2018 23:22:09 GMT
Unfortunately, there is no section here - Pseudoscience - this teachings refer to the falsehood! What do you think about Scientology and its founder Ron Hubbard?The Church of Scientology is a multinational network and hierarchy of numerous ostensibly independent but interconnected corporate entities and other organizations devoted to the practice, administration and dissemination of Scientology, a new religious movement. The Church of Scientology International (CSI) is officially the Church of Scientology's parent organization, and is responsible for guiding local Scientology churches. At a local level, every church is a separate corporate entity set up as a licensed franchise and has its own board of directors and executives. The first Scientology church was incorporated in December 1953 in Camden, New Jersey by L. Ron Hubbard.Its international headquarters are located at the Gold Base, in an unincorporated area of Riverside County, California. The location at Gilman Hotsprings is private property and not accessible by the public. Scientology Missions International is under CSI and oversees Scientology missions, which are local Scientology organizations smaller than churches. The Church of Spiritual Technology (CST) is the organization which owns all the copyrights of the estate of L. Ron Hubbard.The highest authority in the Church of Scientology is the Religious Technology Center (RTC). The RTC claims to only be the "holder of Scientology and Dianetics trademarks", but is in fact the main Scientology executive organization.RTC chairman David Miscavige is widely seen as the effective head of Scientology.All Scientology management organizations are controlled exclusively by members of the Sea Org, which is a legally nonexistent paramilitary organization for the "elite, innermost dedicated core of Scientologists". David Miscavige is the highest-ranking Sea Org officer, holding the rank of captain. Although in some countries it has attained legal recognition as a religion, the movement has been the subject of a number of controversies, and has been accused by critics of being both a cult and a commercial enterprise. Ron Hubbard tormenting tomatoes!
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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2018 3:37:51 GMT
Not a fan.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 11, 2018 5:41:14 GMT
Scientology is pretty much just like freemasonry
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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2018 6:24:55 GMT
Scientology is pretty much just like freemasonry How? Now I'm horrified thinking people get buried. :(
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 11, 2018 6:54:31 GMT
Scientology is pretty much just like freemasonry How? Now I'm horrified thinking people get buried. :( Not the same as far as the oaths they take but they are similar in their beliefs and practices.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 11, 2018 6:57:39 GMT
Scientology is pretty much just like freemasonry My grandfather was a freemason. I didn't notice anything strange.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 11, 2018 6:59:00 GMT
Scientology is pretty much just like freemasonry My grandfather was a freemason. I didn't notice anything strange. Hmm, okay. I mean they’re people like you and I so they can seem strange or normal. There are plenty of strange Christians out there.. I mean even serial killers and rapists can seem pretty normal and even nice until they find the right moment to strike🤷🏼♂️ What strange things do you expect to see?
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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2018 7:19:52 GMT
Scientology is pretty much just like freemasonry My grandfather was a freemason. I didn't notice anything strange. Do you know if he took any oaths or anything? I think dktrav88 meant you won't see anything if they're sworn to secrecy or something Shrug
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 11, 2018 7:26:55 GMT
My grandfather was a freemason. I didn't notice anything strange. Do you know if he took any oaths or anything? I think dktrav88 meant you won't see anything if they're sworn to secrecy or something Shrug Yes of course, Freemasonry is straight from the occult so they are going to hide things and keep many things secret. I have a cousin who is a Freemason, I went to middle school and high school with him so I know him very well. He seems just like the same guy I always knew on the outside to be honest, but since I know him so well I noticed some changes in him, like his core beliefs and his goals both changed. Even sometimes some of the things he says are not like him. But he is pretty much the same personality.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 11, 2018 7:39:28 GMT
My grandfather was a freemason. I didn't notice anything strange. Hmm, okay. I mean they’re people like you and I so they can seem strange or normal. There are plenty of strange Christians out there.. I mean even serial killers and rapists can seem pretty normal and even nice until they find the right moment to strike🤷🏼♂️ What strange things do you expect to see? I expected to see someone who was a bad person or who believed something out of the ordinary. No, he was a pretty cool guy and a Christian (Lutheran and not confirmed born again but maybe, he died when I was like 5) If you asked him about freemasonry and what would happen behind the scenes he'd joke, "If I told you I'd have to kill you." But he was the kind of guy who told stupid jokes. Anyways, what seems to be your problem with freemasonry exactly? I've heard all kinds of conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and what not but they're all bull. Never heard them compared to scientology. Given the secrecy of the group I'd like to know how you know anything about their beliefs at all. I sure don't know anything, but had always imagined that they were like some country club or something basically just hanging out at social events. Anyways there was nothing sinister about by grandfather, he was a good man.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2018 7:48:04 GMT
My grandfather was a freemason. I didn't notice anything strange. Hmm, okay. I mean they’re people like you and I so they can seem strange or normal. There are plenty of strange Christians out there.. I mean even serial killers and rapists can seem pretty normal and even nice until they find the right moment to strike🤷🏼♂️ What strange things do you expect to see? Yeah...creepy. You're safe right? XD
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 11, 2018 7:49:21 GMT
Hmm, okay. I mean they’re people like you and I so they can seem strange or normal. There are plenty of strange Christians out there.. I mean even serial killers and rapists can seem pretty normal and even nice until they find the right moment to strike🤷🏼♂️ What strange things do you expect to see? Yeah...creepy. You're safe right? XD Which one of us?
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 11, 2018 7:53:14 GMT
Hmm, okay. I mean they’re people like you and I so they can seem strange or normal. There are plenty of strange Christians out there.. I mean even serial killers and rapists can seem pretty normal and even nice until they find the right moment to strike🤷🏼♂️ What strange things do you expect to see? I expected to see someone who was a bad person or who believed something out of the ordinary. No, he was a pretty cool guy and a Christian. If you asked him about freemasonry and what would happen behind the scenes he'd joke, "If I told you I'd have to kill you." But he was the kind of guy who told stupid jokes. Anyways, what seems to be your problem with freemasonry exactly? I've heard all kinds of conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and what not but they're all bull. Never heard them compared to scientology. Given the secrecy of the group I'd like to know how you know anything about their beliefs at all. I sure don't know anything, but had always imagined that they were like some country club or something basically just hanging out at social events. Anyways there was nothing sinister about by grandfather, he was a good man. Wait, so you asked him to tell you about freemasonry and he said he’d have to kill you if he told you anything about it.. but did he ever tell you anything about it after you asked him? There are former Freemasons who have shed the light on exactly what they do and what they believe. The Illuminati was a real thing, idk if it still exists today but it did at a point in history. It was a secret society like freemasonry lodges are secret societies. It doesn’t surprise me that he called himself a Christian as there are many “Christians” who are Freemasons, especially big name preachers like those on TBN and such. And the requirement for becoming a Freemason is that you must believe in a god and it doesn’t matter what god, just a god. But yea, he died when you were 5 so I don’t think you knew him very well. I made a thread on Freemasonry a couple days ago. I’d share it here but I don’t know how to do that through tapatalk.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 11, 2018 7:54:02 GMT
Hmm, okay. I mean they’re people like you and I so they can seem strange or normal. There are plenty of strange Christians out there.. I mean even serial killers and rapists can seem pretty normal and even nice until they find the right moment to strike🤷🏼♂️ What strange things do you expect to see? Yeah...creepy. You're safe right? XD oh cmon😆🤦🏼♂️
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Post by Elizabeth on May 11, 2018 7:55:57 GMT
Yeah...creepy. You're safe right? XD Which one of us? I was just messing with dktrav88 since he lives where I live in same city
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