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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 11, 2018 22:42:26 GMT
Can such a concept exist without the gods constantly trying to kill each other for full power?
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Post by platofingly on Mar 12, 2018 8:58:55 GMT
Why not? Power can be shared and all can coexist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 15:03:44 GMT
If every gods have such parameter as 'to be unique', when it's very possible. But usually we suppose that under the notion of 'god' we understand someone to be the one and the only.
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Post by joustos on Mar 13, 2018 16:46:42 GMT
If every gods have such parameter as 'to be unique', when it's very possible. But usually we suppose that under the notion of 'god' we understand someone to be the one and the only. Every god in human history is unique in power or function relatively to humans, but you have unwittingly touched upon a fallacy that language creates. In we wish to speak of a single god, we should say, "the god" [instead of "God"], but in English this expression would be as bad as "the owner of a business" which means "any owner of a business" and does not imply that there is only one owner (in a country). Anyway, the theologically posited singularity of the divine being presupposes that It (or He) is finite, particular, for if God = Being, then God is all that ever exists -- the Infinite, but then there is no reason for using the word "god" at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 17:15:08 GMT
If every gods have such parameter as 'to be unique', when it's very possible. But usually we suppose that under the notion of 'god' we understand someone to be the one and the only. Every god in human history is unique in power or function relatively to humans, but you have unwittingly touched upon a fallacy that language creates. In we wish to speak of a single god, we should say, "the god" [instead of "God"], but in English this expression would be as bad as "the owner of a business" which means "any owner of a business" and does not imply that there is only one owner (in a country). Anyway, the theologically posited singularity of the divine being presupposes that It (or He) is finite, particular, for if God = Being, then God is all that ever exists -- the Infinite, but then there is no reason for using the word "god" at all. Thank you for your explanations. In my imagination every single 'the god' is just nothing, but a concept. So, if I understand you correctly it's not possible to imagine 'god', and every time speaking about God we're not able to think of god. The god is not relevant too, because it sounds like 'the Arktos owner', etc. By the way, in "Groundhog Day" (1993) there's an episode where Phil sitting in at the cafe is talking to Rita that he's like 'a god', not 'the god'. But probably he meant that he's the great owner instead of real god. So, what about 'a god' and 'the god'? Anyway, I didn't mean any historical gods. I've said that it's possible for many (the) gods to be together if and only if (the) gods have some unique properties that differs the one from the others. I can change it to the meaning of personal identification in 'God'. Is God the same in every next moment? |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 13, 2018 20:31:52 GMT
To me it's not possible. There's got to br one. If multiple it will be tough for them plus us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 21:26:11 GMT
To me it's not possible. There's got to br one. If multiple it will be tough for them plus us. hahahahahahaha... Tough? But they are supposed to be gods? There should be no 'toughs' for them to make some things that is hard for us. So, 'toughness' is even more serious problem to be solved. I think I can figure it our something about it, even not being a theist. I think that we do wrong, talking about God as an absolute Being. Why? Because of our human imagination. We many thing whether our imagination coincident with the Universe, i.e. all a priori necessary truths coincident with universal truths, or it is less than it. I'd prefer latter to former. So, if latter premise is truth, then God I guess is probably more than our imagination, and He can rule as Trinity or with other gods, etc. But the latter case rises another problem of too great God. Such God stays unknown for us to understand Him. Besides, being unknown He risks to look like the hypocritical Being. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 13, 2018 21:30:33 GMT
To me it's not possible. There's got to br one. If multiple it will be tough for them plus us. hahahahahahaha... Tough? But they are supposed to be gods? There should be no 'toughs' for them to make some things that is hard for us. So, 'toughness' is even more serious problem to be solved. I think I can figure it our something about it, even not being a theist. I think that we do wrong, talking about God as an absolute Being. Why? Because of our human imagination. We many thing whether our imagination coincident with the Universe, i.e. all a priori necessary truths coincident with universal truths, or it is less than it. I'd prefer latter to former. So, if latter premise is truth, then God I guess is probably more than our imagination, and He can rule as Trinity or with other gods, etc. But the latter case rises another problem of too great God. Such God stays unknown for us to understand Him. Besides, being unknown He risks to look like the hypocritical Being. I say tough because if for example I was a goddess and there were more gods and goddesses then I won't be too happy xD I mean what if fights happen? XD |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 21:34:57 GMT
hahahahahahaha... Tough? But they are supposed to be gods? There should be no 'toughs' for them to make some things that is hard for us. So, 'toughness' is even more serious problem to be solved. I think I can figure it our something about it, even not being a theist. I think that we do wrong, talking about God as an absolute Being. Why? Because of our human imagination. We many thing whether our imagination coincident with the Universe, i.e. all a priori necessary truths coincident with universal truths, or it is less than it. I'd prefer latter to former. So, if latter premise is truth, then God I guess is probably more than our imagination, and He can rule as Trinity or with other gods, etc. But the latter case rises another problem of too great God. Such God stays unknown for us to understand Him. Besides, being unknown He risks to look like the hypocritical Being. I say tough because if for example I was a goddess and there were more gods and goddesses then I won't be too happy xD I mean what if fights happen? XD But I will be happy. I like to see brothers and sisters in-Law, in-special-God-law, ie gods and goddesses around me. It would be funny and interesting. I even could kill them or skin out them - they would be stay alive anyway!! It would be like in Addams Family.   |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 13, 2018 21:47:42 GMT
I say tough because if for example I was a goddess and there were more gods and goddesses then I won't be too happy xD I mean what if fights happen? XD But I will be happy. I like to see brothers and sisters in-Law, in-special-God-law, ie gods and goddesses around me. It would be funny and interesting. I even could kill them or skin out them - they would be stay alive anyway!! It would be like in Addams Family.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 22:33:47 GMT
But I will be happy. I like to see brothers and sisters in-Law, in-special-God-law, ie gods and goddesses around me. It would be funny and interesting. I even could kill them or skin out them - they would be stay alive anyway!! It would be like in Addams Family. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> the wall here. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 13, 2018 22:42:24 GMT
To me it's not possible. There's got to br one. If multiple it will be tough for them plus us. From the point of view of Christianity and other monotheistic religions, only one can be the Creator of the world! Gods are something other than the fruit of human perception of the world! But the Gentiles have their own approach to the perception of the world, especially among modern neo-pagans! |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 13, 2018 23:11:32 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> the wall here. You're so funny with your godly family members! XD |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 0:11:22 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> the wall here. You're so funny with your godly family members! XD Aha, it's definitely us:  |
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hahahahahahaha...
