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Post by noski on Feb 28, 2018 16:21:18 GMT
I’ll be using the label “atheist” loosely here which may be interchangeable with other labels, but from what I understand, the term has largely been used to mark someone as godless or without religion. It has made such individuals into those who are lacking what we in some sense already have. I don’t know of any indigenous culture that was devoid of religion or gods. Yet, Christians, Muslims and others throughout history have marked these people as such. They transformed them into something they are not: pagans, atheists, heathens, objects of spiritual conquest. Today, we still have individuals of this evangelical psychology who seek to identify others in this way. However, there are also individuals who have gone ahead and done the work for them by labeling themselves as atheists. But does this merely perpetuate the evangelical objectification and bad faith in making ourselves into something that lacks which a human being does not lack?
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 28, 2018 22:45:35 GMT
Humans can lack a lot of things other than a God. The most common 3 are food, shelter, and clothes. It would be cool if humans never lacked anything actually. But in terms of atheists, some atheists doo believe there's no such thing as God. My cousin and her husband, for example, would sit with you and call you delusional for believing in a God. Makes me  at them though. They have all these mental issues.... |
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Post by noski on Feb 28, 2018 23:25:47 GMT
Humans can lack a lot of things other than a God. The most common 3 are food, shelter, and clothes. It would be cool if humans never lacked anything actually. But in terms of atheists, some atheists doo believe there's no such thing as God. My cousin and her husband, for example, would sit with you and call you delusional for believing in a God. Makes me at them though. They have all these mental issues.... Humans can lack a lot of things, but not their religiosity or religious heritage. Someone may not believe in a god, but this does not mean they are lacking a god or a religion. This is merely the way some Christians and others throughout history have dehumanized people by making them into someone who is devoid of God or a religion in need of filling with a foreign religion and gods, which is not even the religion of those who do the proselytizing. The problem today is that there are people who embrace this dehumanization that was originally imposed on them from the outside. It’s not a problem of believing or not believing in a God. It’s a problem of making oneself into a being that is devoid of religion and gods. They see themselves through the eyes of the Christians who dehumanize the other. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 22:28:41 GMT
I don't think atheists are so bad, but we must differ cruelty onto theism and theism adepts. Atheism can be labeled as the name of anti-religion campaign, but it will be just a name, nothing more.
An atheist is who denies high deities, abstract notions and supernatural, but believe in humanity. There's no alternatives for atheists to escape from humanity, because denying humanity is to praise for someone else. Lack of believing in humanity can make a per5on to be 1nd1v1dual1st, or socialist (in not political dimension). Anyway, the person would believe at least in one man.
An atheist who crashes humanity does against himself. Such atheists either bear just a name, or they're confused and cross their own paths Each time we would have not real atheists.
Huge role of morality, as we can see already, bases on humanity. If atheists are humanists, then if humanity is a important p4rt of mor4lity, then at least some of atheists are moral.
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Post by Sever on Jun 6, 2018 1:37:46 GMT
It looks like you resurrected this thread, but I guess I'll ask anyway. What is meant by dehumanizing here? Are you saying that rejecting god removes a part of one's humanity? Is it something to do with a rejection of culture?
Also, what god or religion do I have if I recognize no god or religion?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 6, 2018 2:24:23 GMT
It looks like you resurrected this thread, but I guess I'll ask anyway. What is meant by dehumanizing here? Are you saying that rejecting god removes a part of one's humanity? Is it something to do with a rejection of culture? Also, what god or religion do I have if I recognize no god or religion? Any thread can be resurrected if someone feels like adding more to it  And if you allow me to answer your question here then I'd say rejecting God doesn't actually remove our humanity. Humans naturatully do not seek God or want God. They don't want to obey anyone else and live for themselves. Maybe it's pride, I don't know. But we seek to please ourselves naturally and reject being under someone else's authority. Shrug |
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Post by Sever on Jun 6, 2018 2:47:50 GMT
Any thread can be resurrected if someone feels like adding more to it And if you allow me to answer your question here then I'd say rejecting God doesn't actually remove our humanity. Humans naturatully do not seek God or want God. They don't want to obey anyone else and live for themselves. Maybe it's pride, I don't know. But we seek to please ourselves naturally and reject being under someone else's authority.  Sometimes people get upset over necroing. I've never minded it myself. I didn't really have a problem with god being in charge. I still don't, really, I'm more of the mindset that getting to know an infinitely intelligent and powerful being would necessarily be mind-blowing and fulfilling. It was only when I had a problem with rules against things that made no sense to me that I began to get the sense that people were putting words in a fictional god's mouth to enforce their own awful ideas that I began to reject it. Alas, it seems talking to what made reality is not possible as it's not sentient. Also, I'm not sure you actually answered my question. Perhaps you don't think atheism is dehumanizing at all? Or it's some consequence of atheism that is ultimately dehumanizing? |
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 6, 2018 3:24:34 GMT
Any thread can be resurrected if someone feels like adding more to it And if you allow me to answer your question here then I'd say rejecting God doesn't actually remove our humanity. Humans naturatully do not seek God or want God. They don't want to obey anyone else and live for themselves. Maybe it's pride, I don't know. But we seek to please ourselves naturally and reject being under someone else's authority. Sometimes people get upset over necroing. I've never minded it myself. I didn't really have a problem with god being in charge. I still don't, really, I'm more of the mindset that getting to know an infinitely intelligent and powerful being would necessarily be mind-blowing and fulfilling. It was only when I had a problem with rules against things that made no sense to me that I began to get the sense that people were putting words in a fictional god's mouth to enforce their own awful ideas that I began to reject it. Alas, it seems talking to what made reality is not possible as it's not sentient. Also, I'm not sure you actually answered my question. Perhaps you don't think atheism is dehumanizing at all? Or it's some consequence of atheism that is ultimately dehumanizing? No was saying it's not dehumanizing but actually what humanity is expected to be. People are not in the desire to want to search for God and so on. Whether or not the consequences of atheism is good or bad is a different story... |
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at them though. They have all these mental issues....
