Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 17, 2018 23:12:37 GMT
Sub Saharan African countries are some of the most underdeveloped, crime ridden, corrupt, and poverty ridden countries in the world. What do you think can be done to fix this? My opinion is that the African countries including the Sahara should unite under one United States of Africa and become a free market on the level of Hong Kong. Capitalism has proven to bring prosperity. As for governance they should adopt Switzerland's form of government.
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Post by Mocha on Feb 17, 2018 23:21:39 GMT
>should unite under one United States of Africa
Would have an easier time uniting Europe, to be honest
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Post by DKTrav88 on Feb 18, 2018 9:34:45 GMT
>should unite under one United States of Africa Would have an easier time uniting Europe, to be honest I think Muammar Gaddafi tried this
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Post by Διαμονδ on Feb 18, 2018 22:23:04 GMT
The idea is good, but who will be their sponsor? Capitalism in Africa? On what grounds?
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Post by Mocha on Feb 18, 2018 22:48:35 GMT
Considering that Linguistically and Religiously (and Culturally in general) Africa is about on par with Eurasia in terms of diversity, I doubt you'll be able to come up with a situation involving their unification.
At best you'll have groupings akin to colonized africa, with a few francophone groupings and anglophone groupings.
Also bear in mind a lot of these countries are not 'perfect' democracies; many are corrupt, and many aren't even democracies. They aren't going to want to relinquish power to another authority anytime soon.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Feb 18, 2018 22:57:16 GMT
Even South Africa In the era of post-apartheid is not an ideal place.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 20, 2018 0:28:45 GMT
Oh yeah, my idea for a united Africa is of course a pipe dream. I based it on some African nationalist's idea for his continent after the Europeans were to pull out (this was during the continent's time as a bunch of colonies.) Basically what the African countries need to do is adopt western values. Botswana is doing this and they are starting to prosper for an African country from what I've heard.
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Post by Pigy on Mar 13, 2018 7:19:36 GMT
There is no quick fix for any problem and coming from sub-Saharan Africa it is clear to see this. Knowing that I come from one of the more developed countries on the continent makes me even more concerned because there is one of the worst HIV/AIDS and TB epidemics here despite the country's prosperity. There is also a lot of resentment and hate for any "others"; not just between black and white. The xenophobia and tribalism throughout the continent is really bad and fixing that would be the first massive step to solving the problems. You cannot just implement systems that work elsewhere because traditions and attitudes are stubborn. People need to see the value in working and altruism and lifting each other out of the dirt. These kind of issues take many years to fix but when having discussions of this scale it is better to hone in on one problem and attempt to find a working solution for that before blanketing the situation and proposing a "cure-all".
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 13, 2018 7:24:22 GMT
There is no quick fix for any problem and coming from sub-Saharan Africa it is clear to see this. Knowing that I come from one of the more developed countries on the continent makes me even more concerned because there is one of the worst HIV/AIDS and TB epidemics here despite the country's prosperity. There is also a lot of resentment and hate for any "others"; not just between black and white. The xenophobia and tribalism throughout the continent is really bad and fixing that would be the first massive step to solving the problems. You cannot just implement systems that work elsewhere because traditions and attitudes are stubborn. People need to see the value in working and altruism and lifting each other out of the dirt. These kind of issues take many years to fix but when having discussions of this scale it is better to hone in on one problem and attempt to find a working solution for that before blanketing the situation and proposing a "cure-all". That's so sad. Has it always been like that there all your life? Would you wish to live elsewhere?
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Post by Pigy on Mar 13, 2018 7:35:28 GMT
I absolutely adore my country. It has its MASSIVE problems but there is so much goodness here for now. It hasn't always been good (especially with what happened in apartheid times) and there is still much wrong but things like nature, culture and variety are rich here. At the moment as a white person things are getting hostile but things will change hopefully for the better. There is a sense of "being" here and never want to give that up. This place makes you tough and makes you appreciate what you have and what you don't. But I suppose life is completely different for those who aren't part of the middle class here, where a full day's wage will earn you about the equivalent of US$10.5.
I would like to at least get a chance to travel to see what things are like elsewhere but I think I will always want to return to South Africa.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 16, 2018 19:11:17 GMT
I absolutely adore my country. It has its MASSIVE problems but there is so much goodness here for now. It hasn't always been good (especially with what happened in apartheid times) and there is still much wrong but things like nature, culture and variety are rich here. At the moment as a white person things are getting hostile but things will change hopefully for the better. There is a sense of "being" here and never want to give that up. This place makes you tough and makes you appreciate what you have and what you don't. But I suppose life is completely different for those who aren't part of the middle class here, where a full day's wage will earn you about the equivalent of US$10.5. I would like to at least get a chance to travel to see what things are like elsewhere but I think I will always want to return to South Africa. Are you an Afrikaner or... I forgot what they called the English descended white people?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 16, 2018 22:54:08 GMT
I absolutely adore my country. It has its MASSIVE problems but there is so much goodness here for now. It hasn't always been good (especially with what happened in apartheid times) and there is still much wrong but things like nature, culture and variety are rich here. At the moment as a white person things are getting hostile but things will change hopefully for the better. There is a sense of "being" here and never want to give that up. This place makes you tough and makes you appreciate what you have and what you don't. But I suppose life is completely different for those who aren't part of the middle class here, where a full day's wage will earn you about the equivalent of US$10.5. I would like to at least get a chance to travel to see what things are like elsewhere but I think I will always want to return to South Africa. Are you an Afrikaner or... I forgot what they called the English descended white people? Afrikaners fought against the British! Their leader at that time was Pretorius Andries! Today one of his descendants is the owner of the infamous TA forum!
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 17, 2018 1:35:35 GMT
Are you an Afrikaner or... I forgot what they called the English descended white people? Afrikaners fought against the British! Their leader at that time was Pretorius Andries! Today one of his descendants is the owner of the infamous TA forum! Oh yeah I know that but there are South Africans of English descent and I think they're called something different from the predominately Dutch descended Afrikaners.
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Post by fschmidt on Mar 17, 2018 4:37:57 GMT
Black Africa has genetic issues. They need strong religions that support monogamy and a few centuries of war for selection pressure to improve their genetics.
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Post by Pigy on Mar 17, 2018 8:48:26 GMT
Black Africa has genetic issues. They need strong religions that support monogamy and a few centuries of war for selection pressure to improve their genetics. When people talk about a rape culture in the USA I shake my head at the thought because they have no idea what a rape culture actually is. In Africa there actually is a culture of acceptable rape. Things are ugly here, but this is an interesting point you make about the religion playing a role (especially seeing as strong religions often teach discipline and respect); not so much about war.
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