skapunkboi
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Post by skapunkboi on Feb 16, 2018 2:24:33 GMT
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 16, 2018 2:30:22 GMT
Scary....
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skapunkboi
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Post by skapunkboi on Feb 16, 2018 2:38:04 GMT
Hahahahahahaha are you really scared by this guy? What are you afraid of? He's hilarious!
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Post by Mocha on Feb 16, 2018 3:24:23 GMT
I think I've found a new subscription... xD
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bluesreligion
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Post by bluesreligion on Feb 24, 2018 17:35:12 GMT
I'm not a Satanist by identification. La Vey's religion was super silly and I'm not one for theatrics! That being said I don't think people should worship anything or anyone. I'm sickened by the idea of humans being put in the slave position. Because of how theocratic human society has been through the ages there really isn't a mythical figure against the rule of a "god" or some other king figure. I mean the (non-biblical) Lucifer just wanted to replace god, and Satan is in the old testament is really just a kind of enforcer for god. Lame. I consider myself part of whatever people don't want any of that crap. I do kind of like these guys because of some of their campaigns: thesatanictemple.com/ I've got a membership card! Here in the states they answer Christians who want to put up religious statues on public lands. When a religious group tries to do this, they invoke their own freedom of religion to put a Baphomet statue right up next to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 0:13:32 GMT
bluesreligionWith any doubt slavery is the worst. But there's no link with worshiping and slavery in religions. Science, sport, fishing, etc can be religion. Even being a citizen can reckon as being worshiper.
1. As for me, many religious people can be cruel, but there's not necessity for them. I know one guy and a girl who worships satanic. They are not bad. But as for me is strange to evaluate their behavior according to the views of them. 2. Blaming Christian and talk about funny of Baphomet statues landing somewhere make no not sense.
So, I think you are really aggressive against Christianity, am I right? Nietzsche bless you.
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bluesreligion
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Post by bluesreligion on Feb 25, 2018 3:17:16 GMT
I'm not talking about actual slavery. I'm talking about the psychological position of humans in a god-human relationship. They put this thing above themselves and then spend all this time worshiping it and becoming servants to it. That's what makes me sick!
I guess you have to see the political stuff surrounding the Baphomet statues. If one religion puts a monument to their god/philosophy on public land, then there's no reason other religions can't too. I don't think any religion should be putting up statues on public land, but many Christians believe otherwise here. Responding with a Baphomet statue calls their bluff--they really aren't about religious freedom, but the dominance of their own beliefs.
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bluesreligion
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Post by bluesreligion on Feb 25, 2018 3:24:12 GMT
It has been a long long time since I read any Nietzsche. I'm just as aggressive when it comes to rejecting beliefs that make human beings slaves though. Not just Christianity, but every religion I've taken a good look at I've ended up rejecting. Where I'm at most Christians are only half-serious about their religion, which makes it less dangerous.
Islam is a curse right now though. They believe themselves slaves to God. Disgusting. I hope people get helped out of that situation, and that the religion dies!
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 25, 2018 3:26:19 GMT
I'm not a Satanist by identification. La Vey's religion was super silly and I'm not one for theatrics! That being said I don't think people should worship anything or anyone. I'm sickened by the idea of humans being put in the slave position. Because of how theocratic human society has been through the ages there really isn't a mythical figure against the rule of a "god" or some other king figure. I mean the (non-biblical) Lucifer just wanted to replace god, and Satan is in the old testament is really just a kind of enforcer for god. Lame. I consider myself part of whatever people don't want any of that crap. I do kind of like these guys because of some of their campaigns: thesatanictemple.com/ I've got a membership card! Here in the states they answer Christians who want to put up religious statues on public lands. When a religious group tries to do this, they invoke their own freedom of religion to put a Baphomet statue right up next to them. That makes you an atheist. I can respect that. I myself am a Christian because the God of Christianity proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that he does in fact exist.
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bluesreligion
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Post by bluesreligion on Feb 25, 2018 3:33:25 GMT
Sorry Clovis I'm not sure how to respond directly to someone. I'm glad if you've got some peace in this life, but I can't understand how you'd want to be a slave to anyone, nevermind the Christian god who promises to torture most of your human fellows... forever! I'd think being convinced such a being exists would be a living nightmare.
PS. Anyone know how to make it so that emojis don't appear in your posts?2
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 14:29:03 GMT
bluesreligionIt's impossible to avoid it. Such philosophers as Hegel and Marx wrote about it lots. Religions does not concern to it, the problem is not in religion, but in slavery itself.
Surely, you are right when you're writing about sicking of being servants etc. In the Enlightenment sounded many propositions about to educate many people and to make them smarter, but where is this now? A. Macintyre told in 'After Virtue' that thinkers like Russoe, Volter, Monteskier and the rest of them were blind to understand the importance of subordination - the main principle of every society. Society can be plural, but it can't be totally individuated. It is too hard to remove slavery from humanity, that maybe easier is to destroy humanity completely.Today Israel has no constitution, they use Talmud as a codex to rule. It is modern sovereign country. What will you say about it?I'm really agree with you about slavery. My aggression is growing too, when my mind ascending by the ladder of Nietzsche.I don't doubt that you have many powers, but you're so cruel, that I even can confuse you instead of radicals Muslims. But why do we need to destroy religions? They're a part of out history? It's just like a clock that reminds me about my past. Destroying religions is the bad experience: blood for blood, an eye for an eye... such principles are religious itself. We live in legal field society, religions have to become museums, and not to be destroyed.
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bluesreligion
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Post by bluesreligion on Feb 27, 2018 6:31:27 GMT
I don't think I'm cruel... I don't think that there's any justification of destroying religion by legal means, or force, or anything like that. My belief is that it will fade into obscurity as education increases and people don't need to reach for religious ideas to get through crappy lives. So my goal is to make people's lives as good as possible so they don't need an imaginary friend to get through life.
I also don't think we need to forget the past or write religion out of the history books. Instead religion will be hopefully taken less and less seriously as the generations go on, until it ends up like the other myths and legends we enjoy. Like Thor and Odin and Loki, Set and Osiris and Isis, or the many Japanese spirits. I still enjoy all of these things, but very few or next to no one is worshiping them.
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bluesreligion
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Post by bluesreligion on Feb 27, 2018 6:48:55 GMT
I resonate with the myth of Prometheus strongly. Zeus took fire from people so that they had to worship and beg for warmth, but Prometheus gave it to them directly so they didn't have to do that anymore. I want to find a way that people can access love, hope, curiosity, health, without chaining themselves to religions. That's what I want to do, but I'm only one person.
I'm not interested in using force with anyone and I'm convinced that using force to try to end something like Islam, Judaism or Christianity is a losers game, war and conflict just breeds more despair which makes people even more clannish and religious. The only time I'd fight is if someone was actively trying to take my rights away, and there wasn't an alternative!
Also unlike my siblings I'm not trained for war. I hope I'll never have to be. I kind of like my peaceful life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 19:33:09 GMT
bluesreligionNot a tiny. You're not cruel at all. I'm sorry, if I called you something like that. Sam Harris is the one who shares the same views. I've read his 'The End of Faith'. In the chapter 'The Myth of 'Moderation' in Religion' he wrotes: It is with respect to this rather surprising cognitive scenery that we must decide what it means to be a religious "moderate" in the twenty-first century. Moderates in every faith are obliged to loosely interpret (or simply ignore) much of their canons in the interests of living in the modern world. No doubt an obscure truth of economics is at work here: societies appear to become considerably less productive whenever large numbers of people stop making widgets and begin killing their customers and creditors for heresy. The first thing to observe about the moderate's retreat from scriptural literalism is that it draws its inspiration not from scripture but from cultural developments that have rendered many of God's utterances difficult to accept as written. In America, religious moderation is further enforced by the fact that most Christians and Jews do not read the Bible in its entirety and consequently have no idea just how vigorously the God of Abraham wants heresy expungedI can agree about it with him. What do you think 'bout it?
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Etu Malku
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Post by Etu Malku on Dec 25, 2019 1:00:06 GMT
I'm not a Satanist by identification. La Vey's religion was super silly and I'm not one for theatrics! That being said I don't think people should worship anything or anyone. I'm sickened by the idea of humans being put in the slave position. Because of how theocratic human society has been through the ages there really isn't a mythical figure against the rule of a "god" or some other king figure. I mean the (non-biblical) Lucifer just wanted to replace god, and Satan is in the old testament is really just a kind of enforcer for god. Lame. I consider myself part of whatever people don't want any of that crap. I do kind of like these guys because of some of their campaigns: thesatanictemple.com/ I've got a membership card! Here in the states they answer Christians who want to put up religious statues on public lands. When a religious group tries to do this, they invoke their own freedom of religion to put a Baphomet statue right up next to them. That makes you an atheist. I can respect that. I myself am a Christian because the God of Christianity proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that he does in fact exist. How did this god prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that 'he' exists? I'm curious . . .
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