Will Traditional Western values ever become mainstream again

We must distinguish the values which are in effect in society (such as the Puritanical values) in various parts of Europe and in the U.S.A., and the ideal values which some men discussed and advocated, such as Plato's cardinal virtues: moderation; courage; justice {toward others: Render unto each his own [what is due to him]; don't make false accusations; don't bear false witness}; and wisdom (acquiring true knowledge; good counsel; etc.), and other virtues (such as Piety: respect for the gods and for men), and Cicero's precondition of the particular virtues: Love (love of spouse and children, and of men in general). I would add another virtue, which is typical of European Caucasoid people: The loving or the creating, and the acquiring, of Beauty. Here, too, it was Plato that spoke of the ascent of the mind through various kinds of beauty -- Sensory (or of the arts), ethical (as of the laws, which are for the sake of order, cosmicity, in society),mathematical or logical, and "ontological" [of Beauty in itself, as a Ding an Sich]. // I don't like a return to the values of any particular historical period; I like to see the promotion of the ideal values which the Western philosophers have already discussed.

I used "western" simply in the geographical sense, and I assumed that the values or virtues in question are universal (rather than ethnically restricted). I have not tried to identify the "traditional" [western] values, some of which I like, and others I hate. In view of the philosophers I mentioned, the values which they deal with can be classified as "moral values". Here I agree with Plato that virtue cannot be taught, imparted. It cannot be imposed as a law, either. So, I have no idea as to how a moral reform in a society can be attained. Anyway, there are other values besides the moral ones which should be realized, but how? How? For instance, esthetes are born, not made. As they are the patrons of the arts [valuables, for me], the production of art-works depends equally on them and on persons who have artistic talents. Brain biology (as of a race of people) determines -- by chance, not by design --what a society's values shall be. (This topic is still open for thought and discussion.)

It's not just limited to western european values, but, overall, the culture and traditions, which once ensured peace and harmony. Unfortunately, even in India, which boasts of so called culture, I can see the decline in morality of individual, and it is all because of the individuality,materialistic value which has taken precedence.

So, as @polaris has pointed out, until and unless these things will not go, there's no HOPE.

I am in favour of traditional western values which created a Newton or Einstein, Napoleon or Kemal Ataturk.


Western values which created a Mussolini, Hitler , Wilhelm II and the Dark Ages are probably better to be discarded as trash.