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Post by Polaris on Feb 12, 2018 21:53:08 GMT
Which is more natural, to have people grouped into a hierarchy of social classes or to have them as equals.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 8:46:02 GMT
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Post by bluesreligion on Mar 2, 2018 12:20:18 GMT
I'm all for universal education and to find out all the potential people have. It is better for society in general because if we decide not to give education to someone because of their gender or parents we could have both a frustrated and unhappy person and we will miss out on that person's abilities. I'm not sure about natural vs unnatural... It seems like it is easy for people to discriminate and form themselves into clans, probably because that helped society in the past or maybe earlier in our evolutionary histories. It was also natural for human beings not to read or have artificial light: we've turned that on its head, and to our benefit!
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Post by Bomie on Mar 2, 2018 12:29:28 GMT
There's always a hierarchy in human interactions. People are intrinsically better than others in certain areas and true egalataranism can never be achieved. Class divides are a natural thing that occurs due to division and limitation of resources and the creation of civilisation causing goods to be more widely distributed. The only true way to have equality is to have no one produce anything or for everyone to produce the same thing and ban all discussion of betterment, otherwise divides will occur on whom people interact with and what good produced is more valuable. Wait for the singularity.
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Post by Sarmatian on Mar 5, 2018 8:05:41 GMT
Which is more natural, to have people grouped into a hierarchy of social classes or to have them as equals.
Hierarchies existed in living organisms before there were trees on Earth. Ever heard of lobsters story?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 8:10:34 GMT
There's always a hierarchy in human interactions. People are intrinsically better than others in certain areas and true egalataranism can never be achieved. Class divides are a natural thing that occurs due to division and limitation of resources and the creation of civilisation causing goods to be more widely distributed. The only true way to have equality is to have no one produce anything or for everyone to produce the same thing and ban all discussion of betterment, otherwise divides will occur on whom people interact with and what good produced is more valuable. Wait for the singularity. And this division is because of ancestry. This is how the racial classification used to happen. It was never meant for RENFREW or elite dominance, but division of labour as people inherit skills.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 8:11:58 GMT
Sorry, there is no such thing as egalitarianism. There will always be overlords, there will always be martial races, there will always be merchants and produces, and there will be people who will be plebians. This is natural order of society.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 22:08:41 GMT
Sorry, there is no such thing as egalitarianism. There will always be overlords, there will always be martial races, there will always be merchants and produces, and there will be people who will be plebians. This is natural order of society. I hope we will win every overlord!.. What signs must such overlord have? What makes him a lord or a leader? We're all the same. Yes, we have differences, but these differences have no stable signs. Evolution has made us like what we are now. Lords are just as idols. We can idol everyone, there's no problem to idol someone. But why do we idol them?.. None can answer why should we idol someone, but everyone can say that he has not sent himself into his life. None chose a body, or an epoch, or a family to be born there... So, there's no reason to lord someone or something.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 1:50:28 GMT
Sorry, there is no such thing as egalitarianism. There will always be overlords, there will always be martial races, there will always be merchants and produces, and there will be people who will be plebians. This is natural order of society. I hope we will win every overlord!.. What signs must such overlord have? What makes him a lord or a leader? meaWe're all the same. Yes, we have differences, but these differences have no stable signs. Evolution has made us like what we are now. Lords are just as idols. We can idol everyone, there's no problem to idol someone. But why do we idol them?.. None can answer why should we idol someone, but everyone can say that he has not sent himself into his life. None chose a body, or an epoch, or a family to be born there... So, there's no reason to lord someone or something. By overlord, I mean, those people, who create harmony in the society and unite everyone
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 6, 2018 5:26:09 GMT
Hierarchy is more natural. In every society, even tribal ones there is a hierarchy. As for what is more moral; I think a meritocracy or hierarchy based on merit is the most moral with a paternalistic attitude toward those at the bottom of the latter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 5:51:47 GMT
And sometimes, there is need to HAMMER those, who try to break the HARMONY. Only the ENLIGHTENED SOULS can do this, they know what is real religion, real knowledge, and how to keep harmony in society. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parashurama
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 9:30:23 GMT
lamburk You are right!.. I'm sorry for my misuse of the word. Yes, of course... What a mistake I've done!.. It's just another mistake in my faultiness life... Sure, I can't be disagree with you since we're all studying by (under) teachers, lecturers, parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, cousins, lovers, haters, etc. And the ones of them taught us to be more strong, more sexy, more devilish and more funny for many cases in our today and after-yesterday life. Also, they give us perfect examples of light and yellow, gaps and grasp, water and watermelons, etc. But - there's something very important I think - we were just sperms, worms, leeches, and we have finally reached the womb, killing our potential brothers, sisters, cousins, uncles and presidents. We reached the womb, we did it! We are winners! And we don't have... we never have to forget about it! How many killings we did! Lots of!! We're tyrants, we're dictators!! Yes, we were sitting in the womb an dictates those all 'bulb-stomach' women which bear us in the wombs of theirs. The humanity itself is the winner! We killed soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many species, so many animals, birds, reptiles, dinosaurs, dragons, women, slaves, slavs and animal of soviets, that we should be proud of it!! Yes, we are winners, we are killers! Inside all of us is a living little, foxy, cunning killer. And I think that every next leader must be killed, despite of his wishes (all our wishes concern sex and nothing more; maybe some blood and wishing to die), and replies. ... ...Well, my speech was horrible, terrible, disgusting and dreadful... just as myself... Sorry, for these words. I want not to believe in these words, but it seems it's true, it is the truth. Ok, what do you think about englutting of any leader? Like cannibals which we were long time ago?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 6, 2018 9:50:49 GMT
Man is not a perfect being, he is too dependent on the realities of this world so it would be correct if the humans being was equal in status!
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