Wolves At My Door
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Post by Wolves At My Door on Feb 11, 2018 8:29:37 GMT
Greetings, I was wondering whether arktos have got anyone who majored or are currently studying Philosophy at an academic level, because I was wondering how you were introduced to the discipline, literature wise.
I am trying to figure out some great reads for beginners as an introductory to philosophy.
Any recommendations are most welcome!
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 11, 2018 9:40:51 GMT
I think these guys possibly @unknown unknown and maybe Polaris
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 11:01:44 GMT
Will Durant his book on philosophy, it covers all the top philosophers and what they contributed at. Then probably u will direct ur self accordingly. Each have there own specific contribution rather than all jumping on metaphysics. Its a tough ask to read there books but upon finishing ure perception isnt the same
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 17:11:56 GMT
..Oh... When I hear it - 'academic philosophy' - I always try to stay calm, 'cause of my graduation.
Ok, I know some books, that I think, are good introduction to philosophy. So, here's my list:
Totally beginners: T. Nagel 'What Does It All Mean?'; J. Teichman, C. Evans 'Philosophy: A Guide for Beginners'.
Beginners: Aristotle 'Metaphysics', Plato 'Republic', Desсartes 'Discourse on method...'. Russel's 'A History of Western Philosophy', A. Ayer 'Language, Truth and Logic'.
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Post by Polaris on Feb 26, 2018 10:52:30 GMT
..Oh... When I hear it - 'academic philosophy' - I always try to stay calm, 'cause of my graduation. Ok, I know some books, that I think, are good introduction to philosophy. So, here's my list: Totally beginners: T. Nagel 'What Does It All Mean?'; J. Teichman, C. Evans 'Philosophy: A Guide for Beginners'. Beginners: Aristotle 'Metaphysics', Plato 'Republic', Desсartes 'Discourse on method...'. Russel's 'A History of Western Philosophy', A. Ayer 'Language, Truth and Logic'. What does it all mean, Eugene?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 18:26:09 GMT
PolarisWell, I wanted to propose some books for beginners. That's all.
Perhaps, I confused something?
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Post by Polaris on Feb 26, 2018 19:24:16 GMT
Polaris Well, I wanted to propose some books for beginners. That's all.
Perhaps, I confused something? You did not confuse anything . Every thing is crystal clear. I am just asking a vague philosophical question
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 20:07:26 GMT
PolarisGotcha me!
Now I understand.
What does it all mean... That's the question...
I think it means that 'all' is needed to be analyzed more precisely.
I'll try to explain why. I guess, if something exists, it means something else exists too, because there's no way for just one thing to exist. Something must uphold existence of one thing, therefore something else exists too. Ok, there are two things exist, but these things as one thing can exist without another thing that opposite them as the second to the oneness of two things... (well, I hope my words are not enough absurd, 'cause this is the right place to loose any reasonable words...) So, we have a set of things, but it's not necessary to be a set. We can say very reasonable that two things exist, but what make them affirm their existence? I mean how exactly they represent their existence toward another? Aristotle accused many his predecessors that they didn't care about the method (or a way, or a path?) of development the universe (?). Something must 'move' these things. Where is the place and what exactly moves things?
Nevertheless of what we will get in the end of such (or different) reasoning, we have to understand that is the work of analysis. That's why analysis outruns every metaphysics.
Meaning, I guess, relates to something ultimate, something 'in the end', something eschatological (?). If it is true, we can understand meaning right after or precisely before 'the end'. If 'the end' is nothing but a myth, and we live in eternity, then, I think, there's no meaning at all, or meaning is just in our actions, movements... A good example of last thought is in Camus' "Myth of Sysyphus".
Thank you for your questions!
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Post by Polaris on Feb 26, 2018 20:19:29 GMT
Polaris Gotcha me!
Now I understand.
What does it all mean... That's the question...
I think it means that 'all' is needed to be analyzed more precisely.
I'll try to explain why. I guess, if something exists, it means something else exists too, because there's no way for just one thing to exist. Something must uphold existence of one thing, therefore something else exists too. Ok, there are two things exist, but these things as one thing can exist without another thing that opposite them as the second to the oneness of two things... (well, I hope my words are not enough absurd, 'cause this is the right place to loose any reasonable words...) So, we have a set of things, but it's not necessary to be a set. We can say very reasonable that two things exist, but what make them affirm their existence? I mean how exactly they represent their existence toward another? Aristotle accused many his predecessors that they didn't care about the method (or a way, or a path?) of development the universe (?). Something must 'move' these things. Where is the place and what exactly moves things?
Nevertheless of what we will get in the end of such (or different) reasoning, we have to understand that is the work of analysis. That's why analysis outruns every metaphysics.
Meaning, I guess, relates to something ultimate, something 'in the end', something eschatological (?). If it is true, we can understand meaning right after or precisely before 'the end'. If 'the end' is nothing but a myth, and we live in eternity, then, I think, there's no meaning at all, or meaning is just in our actions, movements... A good example of last thought is in Camus' "Myth of Sysyphus".
Thank you for your questions! could there be light without darkness ? if things express their existence then they have to stand as different from something else that must equally exist.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 20:33:08 GMT
PolarisNo, I've told just about it (maybe, I as always said something very messy). But, 'light' or 'darkness' are complex forms. On the one hand, 'one' to 'one' can't be if 'one' is the exactly the same 'one' as the previous 'one. So, every next 'one' thing is another thing; On the other, 'one' to 'one' - there are two different things even if they equal to each other. 'One' and 'equalness' - that is the one. I mean 'differencies' or 'equalness' is the solid argument for their existence. So, the question is - what makes thing to exist? a) Another thing; b) Differences, equalness...; a) - materialism; b) - idealism; Both, recognizes that there's no way to exist for absolutely identical things. In this case, it would be totally pointless. I don't even know what of these modes right, but as for me, there's something at the end, or the whole eternity...
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Post by Gavius on Feb 28, 2018 12:28:16 GMT
I had been considering Philosophy before I chose two majors in History. Sometimes I still wonder, but I fully believe it's something you definitely don't need academia for to be involved (more power to you though if you do study it!). For beginners definitely hit up the big names in Ancient Greece. A few for great starting points were already mentioned above (Aristotle and Plato).
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