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Post by fortharris on Dec 27, 2023 7:42:07 GMT
A bastard is a person of illegitimate birth. A bastard is something that God detests very much and he expresses this in the book of Deuteronomy.
"A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:2
And please, Christ did not come to erase the law. Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
He said this because he knew people would arise who would seize an opportunity to do away with the law through sophisticated sophistries.
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Post by jonbain on Dec 27, 2023 13:28:46 GMT
A bastard is a person of illegitimate birth. A bastard is something that God detests very much and he expresses this in the book of Deuteronomy. "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:2 And please, Christ did not come to erase the law. Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." He said this because he knew people would arise who would seize an opportunity to do away with the law through sophisticated sophistries.
Keyword: Cleric.
Historically the priests would keep track of the number of people and the amount of food that they ate was recorded and predicted according to seasonal astronomy.
This was Copernicus' job, which was why he had to predict the length of the year most perfectly or else the seasonal markers gradually shift, then crops are sewn at the wrong time of year causing famine, disease, war and death. He had to account for each peasant-farmer and each loaf of bread. To avoid starvation.
So people who have children out of wedlock cannot be accounted for, as they typically over-populate, have children too young, which results in them eating the next harvest's seed, leading to famine, disease, war and death.
So in order that children are born to mature adults who can tabulate the amount required to raise children, we were given the concept of marriage so that fathers would be loyal to their children, whom they would know personally as their wives would be faithful to them.
Its not so much a personal vendetta against the 'bastards', so much as it is a pragmatical tool to facilitate a stable, viable society with foresight against the fickle limits of the seasons and the cruel nature of the physical world and all its mores, whores and wars.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 28, 2023 6:41:49 GMT
Yes, people need to make sure such are not born. Meaning people must marry first and then have kids and then stay as a family. Or don't enter into this at all.
But the 10 commandments carried over from old testament to new testament. We dont do animal sacrifices oe other junk because it cant do a thing to save us. So a bastard can enter into heaven if he is saved but none should even exist in the first place. But there a not very smart people around so...
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Post by lamburk on Dec 29, 2023 3:28:12 GMT
A bastard is a person of illegitimate birth. A bastard is something that God detests very much and he expresses this in the book of Deuteronomy. "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:2 And please, Christ did not come to erase the law. Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." He said this because he knew people would arise who would seize an opportunity to do away with the law through sophisticated sophistries.
Keyword: Cleric.
Historically the priests would keep track of the number of people and the amount of food that they ate was recorded and predicted according to seasonal astronomy.
This was Copernicus' job, which was why he had to predict the length of the year most perfectly or else the seasonal markers gradually shift, then crops are sewn at the wrong time of year causing famine, disease, war and death. He had to account for each peasant-farmer and each loaf of bread. To avoid starvation.
So people who have children out of wedlock cannot be accounted for, as they typically over-populate, have children too young, which results in them eating the next harvest's seed, leading to famine, disease, war and death.
So in order that children are born to mature adults who can tabulate the amount required to raise children, we were given the concept of marriage so that fathers would be loyal to their children, whom they would know personally as their wives would be faithful to them.
Its not so much a personal vendetta against the 'bastards', so much as it is a pragmatical tool to facilitate a stable, viable society with foresight against the fickle limits of the seasons and the cruel nature of the physical world and all its mores, whores and wars.
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Those lines clearly depicts that some outsiders had imposed on farmers, and raped their girls. And these imposers called these rape products bastards. It makes sense. Why should illegitimate descendants of outsiders be even given food to eat?
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Post by jonbain on Dec 31, 2023 6:26:32 GMT
Keyword: Cleric.
Historically the priests would keep track of the number of people and the amount of food that they ate was recorded and predicted according to seasonal astronomy.
This was Copernicus' job, which was why he had to predict the length of the year most perfectly or else the seasonal markers gradually shift, then crops are sewn at the wrong time of year causing famine, disease, war and death. He had to account for each peasant-farmer and each loaf of bread. To avoid starvation.
So people who have children out of wedlock cannot be accounted for, as they typically over-populate, have children too young, which results in them eating the next harvest's seed, leading to famine, disease, war and death.
So in order that children are born to mature adults who can tabulate the amount required to raise children, we were given the concept of marriage so that fathers would be loyal to their children, whom they would know personally as their wives would be faithful to them.
Its not so much a personal vendetta against the 'bastards', so much as it is a pragmatical tool to facilitate a stable, viable society with foresight against the fickle limits of the seasons and the cruel nature of the physical world and all its mores, whores and wars.
;-j
Those lines clearly depicts that some outsiders had imposed on farmers, and raped their girls. And these imposers called these rape products bastards. It makes sense. Why should illegitimate descendants of outsiders be even given food to eat? Its not always that easy to tell who is who. Yet, how easy it has been for the bastards to simply label themselves legit, and slander the others for their own benefit.
And the bastards are often motivated to try harder which means they can often become highly skilled out of sheer necessity.
Whilst the entitled are molly-coddled, protected, and thus become weak. The poor get arrested for theft, then placed into workhouses where they suffer for a bit, but are able to learn skills and work their way up.
Slaves become the masters, then they enslave the world in their image. This is the world we live in. The yoke of slavery tightening every year. The population exploding...
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Post by lamburk on Dec 31, 2023 9:13:40 GMT
Those lines clearly depicts that some outsiders had imposed on farmers, and raped their girls. And these imposers called these rape products bastards. It makes sense. Why should illegitimate descendants of outsiders be even given food to eat? Its not always that easy to tell who is who. Yet, how easy it has been for the bastards to simply label themselves legit, and slander the others for their own benefit.
And the bastards are often motivated to try harder which means they can often become highly skilled out of sheer necessity.
Whilst the entitled are molly-coddled, protected, and thus become weak. The poor get arrested for theft, then placed into workhouses where they suffer for a bit, but are able to learn skills and work their way up.
Slaves become the masters, then they enslave the world in their image. This is the world we live in. The yoke of slavery tightening every year. The population exploding...
I am not surprised, as majority of these bastards are illegitimate descendants of Indo European people. This is the norm anyways, people would hate their fathers, because they would have raped their mothers. That's what make them ashamed.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jan 1, 2024 7:16:25 GMT
A bastard is a person of illegitimate birth. A bastard is something that God detests very much and he expresses this in the book of Deuteronomy. "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:2 And please, Christ did not come to erase the law. Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." He said this because he knew people would arise who would seize an opportunity to do away with the law through sophisticated sophistries.
Keyword: Cleric.
Historically the priests would keep track of the number of people and the amount of food that they ate was recorded and predicted according to seasonal astronomy.
This was Copernicus' job, which was why he had to predict the length of the year most perfectly or else the seasonal markers gradually shift, then crops are sewn at the wrong time of year causing famine, disease, war and death. He had to account for each peasant-farmer and each loaf of bread. To avoid starvation.
So people who have children out of wedlock cannot be accounted for, as they typically over-populate, have children too young, which results in them eating the next harvest's seed, leading to famine, disease, war and death.
So in order that children are born to mature adults who can tabulate the amount required to raise children, we were given the concept of marriage so that fathers would be loyal to their children, whom they would know personally as their wives would be faithful to them.
Its not so much a personal vendetta against the 'bastards', so much as it is a pragmatical tool to facilitate a stable, viable society with foresight against the fickle limits of the seasons and the cruel nature of the physical world and all its mores, whores and wars.
;-j
Where did you hear this? Or did you come up with it on your own? Children born out of wedlock tend to come from religious families more so than non-religious because the religious families tend to not properly educate The Adolescents on the birds and the bees and proper precautionary measures to take and teenagers will be teenagers and so what Society tends to find is that teenage pregnancies and out of wedlock pregnancies tend to come from religious families as opposed to non-religious. And marriage is something that hasn't been around as long as people procreating has been and so our concept of wedlock is something that has evolved out of other Traditions keep in mind at one point there weren't priests or judges to give people a piece of paper saying it was okay to have sex like we do today which is mainly for tax reasons.
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Post by jonbain on Jan 1, 2024 7:34:23 GMT
Keyword: Cleric.
Historically the priests would keep track of the number of people and the amount of food that they ate was recorded and predicted according to seasonal astronomy.
This was Copernicus' job, which was why he had to predict the length of the year most perfectly or else the seasonal markers gradually shift, then crops are sewn at the wrong time of year causing famine, disease, war and death. He had to account for each peasant-farmer and each loaf of bread. To avoid starvation.
So people who have children out of wedlock cannot be accounted for, as they typically over-populate, have children too young, which results in them eating the next harvest's seed, leading to famine, disease, war and death.
So in order that children are born to mature adults who can tabulate the amount required to raise children, we were given the concept of marriage so that fathers would be loyal to their children, whom they would know personally as their wives would be faithful to them.
Its not so much a personal vendetta against the 'bastards', so much as it is a pragmatical tool to facilitate a stable, viable society with foresight against the fickle limits of the seasons and the cruel nature of the physical world and all its mores, whores and wars.
;-j
Where did you hear this? Or did you come up with it on your own? Children born out of wedlock tend to come from religious families more so than non-religious because the religious families tend to not properly educate The Adolescents on the birds and the bees and proper precautionary measures to take and teenagers will be teenagers and so what Society tends to find is that teenage pregnancies and out of wedlock pregnancies tend to come from religious families as opposed to non-religious. And marriage is something that hasn't been around as long as people procreating has been and so our concept of wedlock is something that has evolved out of other Traditions keep in mind at one point there weren't priests or judges to give people a piece of paper saying it was okay to have sex like we do today which is mainly for tax reasons.
It is neither a copy-paste nor a contrivance, but an observation and most vitally, a thorough reading of the Bible viewed through the phenomenological lenses of both developmental psychology and philosophy of ethics.
As I hold honors degrees in both psychology and philosophy it is the consequence of the bastardized secular education that used fake religion as quickly as it used fake science to justify its fascist dictates. There is no piece of paper saying its ok to have sex today. That is your straw-man you can destroy at your will.
In the religious past it was like that, though whereas today the worst excesses are caused by over-population, specifically in places like China, which are virtually untouched by Christianity.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jan 1, 2024 15:51:20 GMT
The OP I think mixes up laws of ritual purity with laws governing human morality. The latter are there to prevent immorality, the former to illustrate how human the Israelites were, how frail and mortal they were as compared to the absolute Holiness of God Almighty. People with skin rashes, or who had just had some kind of or disease-originating discharge, or who touched a dead body, or who had a deformity could not enter into the presence of God in the Temple unless they ritually cleansed themselves, and if they couldn't fix it that way, they didn't enter. None of these things were considered immoral in it of itself, even the discharge could have happened between the person and their wife, but in the Old Covenant, there were rules of Holiness and cleanliness meant to teach man's natural uncleanliness and their fundamental separation from God. Being a bastard was and is not immoral, but there's no fixing it. What's done is done. Luckily, Jesus ended the aforementioned separation with the sacrifice that satisfied every requirement but forth by the Mosaic law, and bastards now enter the church and the Holy Spirit, the presence of God lives inside of them now too. Now, they are God's Temple, such is the New Covenant.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jan 2, 2024 4:35:50 GMT
Where did you hear this? Or did you come up with it on your own? Children born out of wedlock tend to come from religious families more so than non-religious because the religious families tend to not properly educate The Adolescents on the birds and the bees and proper precautionary measures to take and teenagers will be teenagers and so what Society tends to find is that teenage pregnancies and out of wedlock pregnancies tend to come from religious families as opposed to non-religious. And marriage is something that hasn't been around as long as people procreating has been and so our concept of wedlock is something that has evolved out of other Traditions keep in mind at one point there weren't priests or judges to give people a piece of paper saying it was okay to have sex like we do today which is mainly for tax reasons.
It is neither a copy-paste nor a contrivance, but an observation and most vitally, a thorough reading of the Bible viewed through the phenomenological lenses of both developmental psychology and philosophy of ethics.
As I hold honors degrees in both psychology and philosophy it is the consequence of the bastardized secular education that used fake religion as quickly as it used fake science to justify its fascist dictates. There is no piece of paper saying its ok to have sex today. That is your straw-man you can destroy at your will.
In the religious past it was like that, though whereas today the worst excesses are caused by over-population, specifically in places like China, which are virtually untouched by Christianity.
China's overpopulation has nothing to do with their lack of Christianity. And you do realize that marriage is a fairly new thing right? I mean they're haven't always been priests pastors and judges just randomly scattered amongst the planet since the beginning of time to give people a certificate saying they're married.
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Post by jonbain on Jan 2, 2024 9:22:50 GMT
It is neither a copy-paste nor a contrivance, but an observation and most vitally, a thorough reading of the Bible viewed through the phenomenological lenses of both developmental psychology and philosophy of ethics.
As I hold honors degrees in both psychology and philosophy it is the consequence of the bastardized secular education that used fake religion as quickly as it used fake science to justify its fascist dictates. There is no piece of paper saying its ok to have sex today. That is your straw-man you can destroy at your will.
In the religious past it was like that, though whereas today the worst excesses are caused by over-population, specifically in places like China, which are virtually untouched by Christianity.
China's overpopulation has nothing to do with their lack of Christianity. And you do realize that marriage is a fairly new thing right? I mean they're haven't always been priests pastors and judges just randomly scattered amongst the planet since the beginning of time to give people a certificate saying they're married. China's over-population has everything to do with outright censorship of Christianity. And their fear of everything religious. That is why half the internet is CCP trolls trying to stir up animosity all over the world. Divide and conquer is their tactic.
I don't know why you have decided that marriage is 'new'. Nor what frame of reference you are using.
Marriage certainly predates Jesus by quite some time, and the 'certificate' is not the definition of marriage except in the minds of the money-grubbers.
A quick search says its at least 3000 years since wedding rings have been used.
I suppose in the time-frame of Archaeology that is a short time. But then our history vanishes into mist about 3000 years ago....
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jan 2, 2024 14:17:52 GMT
It is neither a copy-paste nor a contrivance, but an observation and most vitally, a thorough reading of the Bible viewed through the phenomenological lenses of both developmental psychology and philosophy of ethics.
As I hold honors degrees in both psychology and philosophy it is the consequence of the bastardized secular education that used fake religion as quickly as it used fake science to justify its fascist dictates. There is no piece of paper saying its ok to have sex today. That is your straw-man you can destroy at your will.
In the religious past it was like that, though whereas today the worst excesses are caused by over-population, specifically in places like China, which are virtually untouched by Christianity.
China's overpopulation has nothing to do with their lack of Christianity. And you do realize that marriage is a fairly new thing right? I mean they're haven't always been priests pastors and judges just randomly scattered amongst the planet since the beginning of time to give people a certificate saying they're married.Yes, there has. There were priests and judges in Ancient Sumer, which was our first recorded civilization like six thousand years ago, and there were priest equivalents and law adjudicators in hunter gatherer tribes before that. There was marriage as well, the idea that a male and female, or a male and multiple females, were sworn to each other as a family and no one else. This was all over the world and universal whether you looked in classical Greece and Rome, China, the Ancient Near East, the Americas before Columbus, or Sub-Saharan Africa.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jan 3, 2024 3:20:15 GMT
China's overpopulation has nothing to do with their lack of Christianity. And you do realize that marriage is a fairly new thing right? I mean they're haven't always been priests pastors and judges just randomly scattered amongst the planet since the beginning of time to give people a certificate saying they're married.Yes, there has. There were priests and judges in Ancient Sumer, which was our first recorded civilization like six thousand years ago, and there were priest equivalents and law adjudicators in hunter gatherer tribes before that. There was marriage as well, the idea that a male and female, or a male and multiple females, were sworn to each other as a family and no one else. This was all over the world and universal whether you looked in classical Greece and Rome, China, the Ancient Near East, the Americas before Columbus, or Sub-Saharan Africa. So the topic is about basterds and the concept of the basterd is presumed to be a legacy of medieval Christian Europe, with its emphasis on compliance with Catholic marriage law and so the concept of marriage thst im referring to is the one that we all know and use today but even if we just look at all examples of marrage the oldest evidence we have of marriage as Vague as it might be in relation to what we call marriage today would be in Samaria which is a blink in the history of this planet and a semi-fast blink in the history of mankind so as I originally stated there haven't always been people to take a magic stick and Bop others on the head and say I dubbed thy married you may now do the shebangbang and not get in trouble
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jan 3, 2024 3:24:21 GMT
China's overpopulation has nothing to do with their lack of Christianity. And you do realize that marriage is a fairly new thing right? I mean they're haven't always been priests pastors and judges just randomly scattered amongst the planet since the beginning of time to give people a certificate saying they're married. China's over-population has everything to do with outright censorship of Christianity. And their fear of everything religious. That is why half the internet is CCP trolls trying to stir up animosity all over the world. Divide and conquer is their tactic.
I don't know why you have decided that marriage is 'new'. Nor what frame of reference you are using.
Marriage certainly predates Jesus by quite some time, and the 'certificate' is not the definition of marriage except in the minds of the money-grubbers.
A quick search says its at least 3000 years since wedding rings have been used.
I suppose in the time-frame of Archaeology that is a short time. But then our history vanishes into mist about 3000 years ago....
China's large quantity of people is due to agriculture and by definition they're technically not overpopulated they just have highly dense cities. But it's an agricultural thing not a religious thing.
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Post by jonbain on Jan 3, 2024 19:50:06 GMT
China's over-population has everything to do with outright censorship of Christianity. And their fear of everything religious. That is why half the internet is CCP trolls trying to stir up animosity all over the world. Divide and conquer is their tactic.
I don't know why you have decided that marriage is 'new'. Nor what frame of reference you are using.
Marriage certainly predates Jesus by quite some time, and the 'certificate' is not the definition of marriage except in the minds of the money-grubbers.
A quick search says its at least 3000 years since wedding rings have been used.
I suppose in the time-frame of Archaeology that is a short time. But then our history vanishes into mist about 3000 years ago....
China's large quantity of people is due to agriculture and by definition they're technically not overpopulated they just have highly dense cities. But it's an agricultural thing not a religious thing. China's rice production on its own causes a massive protein shortage, which is only circumnavigated by over-fishing by as much as 700%.
Had they farmed protein in balance with rice, they would have
required a much smaller population.
This is actually the story of Cane and Able.
But instead of reading the book, china poison the world's food supply with toxic fake food like soya, because it is cheap to produce. For example, they replaced sunflower oil with soya in tinned tuna without significant warning, for example. This is purely to use the healthier sunflower oil as biofuel!
These sorts of endless cheapening of all such products is typical of the global chinaconomy, and causes all sorts of vitamin deficiencies which then get covered up by other quackery - which then also gives them reason to impose global communism via their proxies at the WHO.
And yes, fundamental honesty is the epitome of all successful religions; whereas materialist dogma, well that just always ends up in dog-eat-dog 'communism' = warfare.
Then these wars, the religious always win too, much to the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the overpopulators.
And as for what constitutes genuine religion, I suggest you study this movie closely:
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