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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 31, 2022 12:29:28 GMT
To lose weight a person must to move, run, and do exercises To move, to run, and to do exercises a person has to get energy To get energy a person has to eat If a person eats one gets more fat and gets more weight So, to get thiner a person must eat, but it only makes it be more fat This is why it's impossible to lose weight and get thinner
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 2, 2022 7:42:26 GMT
I don't think you understand that the word "impossible" actually means in English?
This is literally my field of expertise (like no joke this is how I put food on the table is teaching people how to put food on the table to get in shape)
And In my professional opinion (and I'm not sure if your being serious or if your just being sarcastic and keeping it simple and blunt for comedy sake?) but you sir are very much wrong in your views on the synergistic relationship between energy-food - exercise and weight loss
But the good news is that now you at least know that it is infact very much possible to lose body fat
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 2, 2022 7:45:57 GMT
And please don't take my criticism with a heavy heart infact most of the clients that I talk to every day of the week have almost the exact same beliefs about food and weight loss as you so your not alone your on the majority side of this so it's a very common view.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 2, 2022 9:22:27 GMT
And please don't take my criticism with a heavy heart infact most of the clients that I talk to every day of the week have almost the exact same beliefs about food and weight loss as you so your not alone your on the majority side of this so it's a very common view. Maye-el, do you have a bit ouf humour? Really? Or it's another attempt to 'teach' someone? For people it uses to be hard to have a sense of humour in their life for some reason, but it's not incorrect; even in my situation during the war a little smile can help. Anyway, this is one of basic things people need in their life. So, you're better be less critical for your clients. It might be that your client are really hard ones, and it's not easy to deal with them, but not all the people are you clients, agree?
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Post by jonbain on Jun 2, 2022 17:44:46 GMT
To lose weight a person must to move, run, and do exercises To move, to run, and to do exercises a person has to get energy To get energy a person has to eat If a person eats one gets more fat and gets more weight So, to get thiner a person must eat, but it only makes it be more fat This is why it's impossible to lose weight and get thinner
Exercise will stop you putting on weight. But once you are overweight, exercise has little or no effect on weight loss.
A few years back I went from 100kg to 83kg in 4 months with the only exercise a short swim in the sea and a 2km walk every few days.
Basically all you got to do is cut out all carbohydrates. So, no sugar, no bread, no pasta, no rice, no orange vegetables, no sweet fruit.
Just eat meat and green vegetables. At the time I was smoking tobacco, which satisfied the craving.
Then I decided to stop tobacco, and scoffed my face full of ice-cream
and put it all back on again.
I started this year at 100kg, and now I am 92kg. And i only smoke the occasional cigarette.
Its the psychological need for something nice and sweet that is the difficult part for me.
There are numerous diets with clever sounding names that are pretty much
the same thing. The catch-word now is 'keto', but its also called the
paleolithic diet, or the Aitkens diet.
Small differences, but pretty much the same thing.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 2, 2022 18:03:59 GMT
To lose weight a person must to move, run, and do exercises To move, to run, and to do exercises a person has to get energy To get energy a person has to eat If a person eats one gets more fat and gets more weight So, to get thiner a person must eat, but it only makes it be more fat This is why it's impossible to lose weight and get thinner
Exercise will stop you putting on weight. But once you are overweight, exercise has little or no effect on weight loss.
A few years back I went from 100kg to 83kg in 4 months with the only exercise a short swim in the sea and a 2km walk every few days.
Basically all you got to do is cut out all carbohydrates. So, no sugar, no bread, no pasta, no rice, no orange vegetables, no sweet fruit.
Just eat meat and green vegetables. At the time I was smoking tobacco, which satisfied the craving.
Then I decided to stop tobacco, and scoffed my face full of ice-cream
and put it all back on again.
I started this year at 100kg, and now I am 92kg. And i only smoke the occasional cigarette.
Its the psychological need for something nice and sweet that is the difficult part for me.
There are numerous diets with clever sounding names that are pretty much
the same thing. The catch-word now is 'keto', but its also called the
paleolithic diet, or the Aitkens diet.
Small differences, but pretty much the same thing.
Oh, it's a very nice example! I'm glad you're being good! This wasn't a serious made by me. I was joking. It was nothing, but an example of sophistry xxxxxxxxx has been showing constantly. Such examples are hiding a logical fallacy among the premises. You're right about the exercises. Me - 65 kg, and I walk almost everyday not less, than 12 km, and what's next? Nothing, still the same weight. Still the same. No matter how long I walk, no matter how fast I travel, no matter which kg I have in my bad - the result is the same. I think I will lose my weight if there were some special drugs. I know that Chemistry is magic, and pop stars pay crazy money to look better. They are not doing plastic, but take special pills. Ordinary people are not allowed to those pills... And I think I know why: it reminds me a legend of China emperors... Have you ever heard of it? - They say that according to the legend China emperors killed his people (surroundings, or the ordinary citizens) only for wearing dress with the same color as the emperor. Or only certain types of colours were allowed to where. Now it's 2022... but we still live like thousands of years ago: today some drugs or pills are impossible to have, so a certain number of women can have more cool pills to look more exciting and sexy, while the other number - is not. We're stuck. The evolution has been stopped :(
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Post by jonbain on Jun 3, 2022 13:41:33 GMT
Eugene 2.0the idea of certain colors being limited to nobles was fairly widel - egypt, britain, and europe typically red and purple --------------- special drugs? nah those do exist, but they are fake they harvest stem-cells from abortions which is why they are so adamant they want to keep aborting but the entire paradigm of biology is almost entirely a scam except for nutrition - which is only about half of it that are scams
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 3, 2022 15:26:45 GMT
Eugene 2.0 the idea of certain colors being limited to nobles was fairly widel - egypt, britain, and europe typically red and purple --------------- special drugs? nah those do exist, but they are fake they harvest stem-cells from abortions which is why they are so adamant they want to keep aborting but the entire paradigm of biology is almost entirely a scam except for nutrition - which is only about half of it that are scams If such pills are illusionary, what about the truth serum or else? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serumWhat about the corona? Actually, the pills are just the element in the set of such ingridients as the truth serum, and so on.
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Post by jonbain on Jun 4, 2022 12:35:01 GMT
Eugene 2.0Corona was always just the technical term for the common cold. Now its that, plus the most pervasive psy-ops the world has ever seen. Its an attempt to find an alternative to ww3, a way of reducing population pressure without the devastation of full scale global war. As for truth serum, again its based on the fallacy that the mind is simply a product of the physical body. Now hallucinogens may play a role, in some cases, in helping people find such truth - but only if their inner intent is to seek truth. The big revelation for me under the effects of LSD, was that even though before taking it, i believed that it would possibly help me see truth on a paranormal, psychic level ; it was THAT belief which was the fundamental reason that it helped me see the truth. The main effect of the LSD was a 'placebo' effect. Now there are various degrees of placebo effect, and even realizing that something is a placebo effect, does not immediately nullify the effect. But if one is embedded in a materialist paradigm of belief, then one has already bought into the idea that one REQUIRES some physical component to see beyond the material world. Almost nobody is entirely materialist / spiritual in their cosmology. So its almost never a case of absolutes. The intrinsic aspect of truth is wholly mental.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 4, 2022 15:45:22 GMT
Eugene 2.0 Corona was always just the technical term for the common cold. Now its that, plus the most pervasive psy-ops the world has ever seen. Its an attempt to find an alternative to ww3, a way of reducing population pressure without the devastation of full scale global war. As for truth serum, again its based on the fallacy that the mind is simply a product of the physical body. Now hallucinogens may play a role, in some cases, in helping people find such truth - but only if their inner intent is to seek truth. The big revelation for me under the effects of LSD, was that even though before taking it, i believed that it would possibly help me see truth on a paranormal, psychic level ; it was THAT belief which was the fundamental reason that it helped me see the truth. The main effect of the LSD was a 'placebo' effect. Now there are various degrees of placebo effect, and even realizing that something is a placebo effect, does not immediately nullify the effect. But if one is embedded in a materialist paradigm of belief, then one has already bought into the idea that one REQUIRES some physical component to see beyond the material world. Almost nobody is entirely materialist / spiritual in their cosmology. So its almost never a case of absolutes. The intrinsic aspect of truth is wholly mental. I agree 'placebo' works. Somewhere. But if it works everywhere it would be terrible. I do not put away food (i.e. anything that can be eaten by a human), and drugs/medicine. For me it is the same. The true is, one type of food (i.e. something that can be eaten, drunk) helps to cure a relevant type of abnormality or instability of health, and another one - to another. So, it 'placebo' works everywhere, then we would no need in special kind of food, we just could eat everything. But I guess if a someone swallows occasionaly a rattle snake (let's imagine it's not impossible), his destiny won't be ver well. 'Food' (again: anything that can be eaten) work as well as physics: electrons, protons, neutrons lure into our body, mix with our blood and other liquids and then the chemistry occur. The proportion of e., p., n. give different atoms, atoms with atoms - molecules, molecules with molecules - upper-structures, and so on... finally the product warm and heat us from the inside, it fills our veins and push our hearts, it expands our lungs, drives our livery... anyway, it's quite the same as to repair a car with all those elements as a battery, tires, gas, oil, polish, etc. Even the process of washing our skin is as a car washing. And if a car doesn't wash for a long time, its elements go rusty and darker. Finally, the car can't move a bit. The same is a human. A hobo who doesn't wash himself risks catch some problems with insects, microbes, etc. And no matter how hard that hobo tries to imagine a shower he cannot wash himself that way. Well, I guess this how things go.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 6, 2022 3:09:00 GMT
And please don't take my criticism with a heavy heart infact most of the clients that I talk to every day of the week have almost the exact same beliefs about food and weight loss as you so your not alone your on the majority side of this so it's a very common view. Maye-el, do you have a bit ouf humour? Really? Or it's another attempt to 'teach' someone? For people it uses to be hard to have a sense of humour in their life for some reason, but it's not incorrect; even in my situation during the war a little smile can help. Anyway, this is one of basic things people need in their life. So, you're better be less critical for your clients. It might be that your client are really hard ones, and it's not easy to deal with them, but not all the people are you clients, agree? Well I'm told that I have a great since of humor and I'm very sarcastic naturally But I'm much more critical of my clients then I am of anyone here on this forum believe it of not, When a person hires a coach to get them in shape surprisingly the nicer and more "understanding" and you could say the more "friend like" that a trainer can't be/becomes with the client the worse the clients results become and the less likely that the client will continue to hire them And the more boss/drill sergeant/ tuff love/ cold step dad like that a trainer is, then the better the clients results are and the less turnover that trainer will have This is because are bodies look the way they do because of are lifestyle and so to change the look of are body we have to change are lifestyle and that's very uncomfortable for anyone to do And people are very sensitive about their weight and get offended easily because we all naturally take things personally and something like how are body looks is something tied in to so many other things emotionally in are lives and are identity because of how it makes us physically feel day in and day out and when we see are self in the mirror we think back to the point where we think we looked the best in are life and remind are self that we lost that and it's gone and why did we let are self go like we did and how we will probably never get back to that peek shape in are life again and so then we get depressed and so on and so forth, trust me I understand , my body has been problematic since birth I've been on a roller coaster of healthy and unhealthy I've been over weight and underweight but because of the problems my body has had it has aloud me to learn how to work with so many different kinds of people that 90% of strength coaches would never work with usually a trainer will pick a specific type of client and stay in that avenue however I will have clients preparing for a bodybuilding competition and that same day I'll work with post PT 75yr old clients making sure that they know how to keep the function of whatever body part just had surgery done on it , I work from home end of the spectrum to the other and also diet which is so important to a healthy body you can't have one without the other. but I get the impression that your trying to tell me to not tell you that your wrong and just let you think that your right? or at least that's what it seems like your implying but please correct me if I'm misunderstanding what you said?.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 6, 2022 3:19:17 GMT
Exercise will stop you putting on weight. But once you are overweight, exercise has little or no effect on weight loss.
A few years back I went from 100kg to 83kg in 4 months with the only exercise a short swim in the sea and a 2km walk every few days.
Basically all you got to do is cut out all carbohydrates. So, no sugar, no bread, no pasta, no rice, no orange vegetables, no sweet fruit.
Just eat meat and green vegetables. At the time I was smoking tobacco, which satisfied the craving.
Then I decided to stop tobacco, and scoffed my face full of ice-cream
and put it all back on again.
I started this year at 100kg, and now I am 92kg. And i only smoke the occasional cigarette.
Its the psychological need for something nice and sweet that is the difficult part for me.
There are numerous diets with clever sounding names that are pretty much
the same thing. The catch-word now is 'keto', but its also called the
paleolithic diet, or the Aitkens diet.
Small differences, but pretty much the same thing.
Oh, it's a very nice example! I'm glad you're being good! This wasn't a serious made by me. I was joking. It was nothing, but an example of sophistry xxxxxxxxx has been showing constantly. Such examples are hiding a logical fallacy among the premises. You're right about the exercises. Me - 65 kg, and I walk almost everyday not less, than 12 km, and what's next? Nothing, still the same weight. Still the same. No matter how long I walk, no matter how fast I travel, no matter which kg I have in my bad - the result is the same. I think I will lose my weight if there were some special drugs. I know that Chemistry is magic, and pop stars pay crazy money to look better. They are not doing plastic, but take special pills. Ordinary people are not allowed to those pills... And I think I know why: it reminds me a legend of China emperors... Have you ever heard of it? - They say that according to the legend China emperors killed his people (surroundings, or the ordinary citizens) only for wearing dress with the same color as the emperor. Or only certain types of colours were allowed to where. Now it's 2022... but we still live like thousands of years ago: today some drugs or pills are impossible to have, so a certain number of women can have more cool pills to look more exciting and sexy, while the other number - is not. We're stuck. The evolution has been stopped :( Ahh ok you were joking that makes since . And yes there are "special pills" I know all about them you almost have to in my line of work but trust me when I say you don't want to take them there a bit risky with the side effects And as for your not losing weight that's partly because walking is not hard enough on your body in comparison to your diet and very importantly your stress level, your most likely making to much cortisone currently, there are several other factors but those are probably the more immediate points to point out.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 6, 2022 5:04:26 GMT
Maye-el, do you have a bit ouf humour? Really? Or it's another attempt to 'teach' someone? For people it uses to be hard to have a sense of humour in their life for some reason, but it's not incorrect; even in my situation during the war a little smile can help. Anyway, this is one of basic things people need in their life. So, you're better be less critical for your clients. It might be that your client are really hard ones, and it's not easy to deal with them, but not all the people are you clients, agree? Well I'm told that I have a great since of humor and I'm very sarcastic naturally But I'm much more critical of my clients then I am of anyone here on this forum believe it of not, When a person hires a coach to get them in shape surprisingly the nicer and more "understanding" and you could say the more "friend like" that a trainer can't be/becomes with the client the worse the clients results become and the less likely that the client will continue to hire them And the more boss/drill sergeant/ tuff love/ cold step dad like that a trainer is, then the better the clients results are and the less turnover that trainer will have This is because are bodies look the way they do because of are lifestyle and so to change the look of are body we have to change are lifestyle and that's very uncomfortable for anyone to do And people are very sensitive about their weight and get offended easily because we all naturally take things personally and something like how are body looks is something tied in to so many other things emotionally in are lives and are identity because of how it makes us physically feel day in and day out and when we see are self in the mirror we think back to the point where we think we looked the best in are life and remind are self that we lost that and it's gone and why did we let are self go like we did and how we will probably never get back to that peek shape in are life again and so then we get depressed and so on and so forth, trust me I understand , my body has been problematic since birth I've been on a roller coaster of healthy and unhealthy I've been over weight and underweight but because of the problems my body has had it has aloud me to learn how to work with so many different kinds of people that 90% of strength coaches would never work with usually a trainer will pick a specific type of client and stay in that avenue however I will have clients preparing for a bodybuilding competition and that same day I'll work with post PT 75yr old clients making sure that they know how to keep the function of whatever body part just had surgery done on it , I work from home end of the spectrum to the other and also diet which is so important to a healthy body you can't have one without the other. but I get the impression that your trying to tell me to not tell you that your wrong and just let you think that your right? or at least that's what it seems like your implying but please correct me if I'm misunderstanding what you said?. No, I'm not depressed about chaning and never get back to my previous look. Till my 30's I looked enough pretty, except for my height - I was 1 meter 69 cm height. And till that time I never had problems with weight. Usually, that was unfomfortable for me. But I never complained about anything, because for me these things as weight or height don't mean anything. I have seen many ugly-from-inside people. I have learned this world is a creepy insane place, and most of time a human being isn't so far from an animal. I'd say animals are less beast, than a human. Anyway, I think I was lucky never be like community-care. I was individual. Walking by myself, wandering streets, listening to the music, watching movies, playing games, readng books. Social life isn't a life at all by my standards. People are liars and foxies. They like to cheat or to betray you, nobody can be rely on anyone else. And 'beautiness' or 'ugliness' are 100% social. One think that one is cool, or pretty, another one; the same is about 'ugliness'. It's really hard to find a person to whom you can trust. But I see any reason to look for such a person if I know there are nobody. Some people are so worrying about their look, the circle of them (who surrounds them), and so on, and as for me this means really nothing. And if decades ago I wouldn't be such pessimistic, not I am pretty straightforward about this: people are not so human as they think. A year by year we're getting far and far away from each other. Of course, those who does care of their look, their circles (surroundings) are willing to survive, but what kind of people they are? Who wants to be a part of such people? Not me.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 6, 2022 5:10:09 GMT
Oh, it's a very nice example! I'm glad you're being good! This wasn't a serious made by me. I was joking. It was nothing, but an example of sophistry xxxxxxxxx has been showing constantly. Such examples are hiding a logical fallacy among the premises. You're right about the exercises. Me - 65 kg, and I walk almost everyday not less, than 12 km, and what's next? Nothing, still the same weight. Still the same. No matter how long I walk, no matter how fast I travel, no matter which kg I have in my bad - the result is the same. I think I will lose my weight if there were some special drugs. I know that Chemistry is magic, and pop stars pay crazy money to look better. They are not doing plastic, but take special pills. Ordinary people are not allowed to those pills... And I think I know why: it reminds me a legend of China emperors... Have you ever heard of it? - They say that according to the legend China emperors killed his people (surroundings, or the ordinary citizens) only for wearing dress with the same color as the emperor. Or only certain types of colours were allowed to where. Now it's 2022... but we still live like thousands of years ago: today some drugs or pills are impossible to have, so a certain number of women can have more cool pills to look more exciting and sexy, while the other number - is not. We're stuck. The evolution has been stopped :( Ahh ok you were joking that makes since lol. And yes there are "special pills" I know all about them you almost have to in my line of work but trust me when I say you don't want to take them there a bit risky with the side effects And as for your not losing weight that's partly because walking is not hard enough on your body in comparison to your diet and very importantly your stress level, your most likely making to much cortisone currently, there are several other factors but those are probably the more immediate points to point out. Almost all my life I am walking. But before my 30's I was enough slim, not I've got that belly fat. And to get to the normal - it seems almost impossible (I haven's stopped walking). How did I get those extra calories? - Eating chips, eating fast-food, watching films, playing videogames. For why to get rid of that belly fat? It doesn't make any sense. I'd say people who wants get slimer, get more beauty look - are just addicted to those cliche about their look or etc. Is there such a thing as friendship? No, I don't think so. Your best friend would kill you if he would decide to get your girlfriends; there would be the end of your friendship. The same about anything else. People are wolves, if they would have chances they would have kill everyone else. A beast within.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 10, 2022 21:13:02 GMT
Ahh ok you were joking that makes since . And yes there are "special pills" I know all about them you almost have to in my line of work but trust me when I say you don't want to take them there a bit risky with the side effects And as for your not losing weight that's partly because walking is not hard enough on your body in comparison to your diet and very importantly your stress level, your most likely making to much cortisone currently, there are several other factors but those are probably the more immediate points to point out. Almost all my life I am walking. But before my 30's I was enough slim, not I've got that belly fat. And to get to the normal - it seems almost impossible (I haven's stopped walking). How did I get those extra calories? - Eating chips, eating fast-food, watching films, playing videogames. For why to get rid of that belly fat? It doesn't make any sense. I'd say people who wants get slimer, get more beauty look - are just addicted to those cliche about their look or etc. Is there such a thing as friendship? No, I don't think so. Your best friend would kill you if he would decide to get your girlfriends; there would be the end of your friendship. The same about anything else. People are wolves, if they would have chances they would have kill everyone else. A beast within. Hmmm ok well clearly you have some hidden animosity twords the idea of fit people pursuing beauty and fitness and I see this a lot from people And I understand why believe me I've been working side by side with the people that give physical beauty event name, the fitness industry is packed full of people that are ugly nasty evil people with great looking bodies But like a piece of fruit you didn't realize went bad it might look beautiful on the outside but when you pick it up your fingers go through it cuz it's rotten to the core Most of them are vain and self-centered And I agree with you people ARE animals and will stab you and leave you dying in a ditch for 20 bucks in a 5-minute Head start from the cops Even family will do this to you It's hard to find a real friend in this life I've yet to find one that truly looks out for me instead I only find people that pretend to be my friend so that they are on my good side and won't be a threat to them and are just waiting for something to happen to me so that they can have something that's mine I remember when I got injured and hurt my neck (BPI) and was paralyzed in both arms for several months and was out of work for almost a year I was shocked that all my "friends" that I had made while working in the gym industry as a manager NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM called me or even texted me Not any of them .... I ran into one of them about 2yrs later and they asked what happened to me and when I told them they just said "huh that sucks" and then tried to change the subject to talk about them and there stupid life drama not even faking to care about me or nothing, very disappointing And that's not nothing compared to how many times I e had people try and steel and back stab me in business and starting a business it's enough to make anyone paranoid. But I want to circle back to the fitness part of this conversation and say that although it is easy to have a negative opinion on fitness it is nevertheless the wrong way to look at it and the people in it because there are a few people that are fit and humble and really good people inside and out It is very possible to be pretty on the inside and the outside and there's nothing wrong with either or or both And being fit should be something everyone is interested in and pursues because being healthy means that when you have those moments in life that you enjoy that you will enjoy them more if you have a healthy body then you would if you were in an unhealthy body And having a healthy body will create many more situations and opportunities to enjoy life because you won't have nearest main physical limitations standing in your way And the increase for disease the order you get means better more happier life lived and less of a burden on family members especially as we get older nothing's worse than being a burden to your own family I've had to be that before it's not fun And being selfish about your body isn't a bad thing because if there's one thing a person can put first and be selfish about that would be your own body's health because we only get 1 body and hardly any replacement parts for if it breaks so we should put are body as priority number one But for some reason the narrative growing up or at least The narrative of my family was that it's wrong to put your self physically first but you're supposed to be selfless and christ-like and that it was wrong to be selfish but this is further from the correct thing that there could be.
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