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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 5, 2022 20:22:31 GMT
Last philosophy themes, discussions, and problems were not about a person or personality. (Personality is the essence of a person, it is something important to it.)
Personless Examples
Many examples in today's philosophy has no persons, while it's filled with rational agents, customers, citizens, victims; not with real people.
Observers instead of Persons
An observer is what left from a person. It's also impossible to view a human being only as a registration machine, or a walking calculator.
Body & Soul
This theme, unfortunately, gets to be rarely, along with that a concept of soul is getting plainer like a soul is a matter. A soul must be taken closely to the spirit, or spiritual things, which are braveness, courage, honestly, etc.
Happiness vs Sacrifices
Welfare becomes an undisposed standard. This isn't true. A person can have different destinies, or different ways. And having them, a person forgets his other abilities.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Mar 6, 2022 20:00:14 GMT
Do you identify as a person?. I don't, I am not a person although I have a person but by no means am I truly that person.
Robots can be given the title of person So can a monkey
So a person is not limited to human beings
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 6, 2022 22:29:13 GMT
Do you identify as a person?. I don't, I am not a person although I have a person but by no means am I truly that person. Robots can be given the title of person So can a monkey So a person is not limited to human beings !.. Maybe you haven't realized that yet, but what you're saying is nonsense. Do you size or measure your girlfriend in all respects, saying – oh, she matches me, then I'll be with her, or you try to spend time with her to understand what a person is she? A person as a friend cannot be measured. This is something really intimate and really human. One can understand humanity or personality by his experience. You cannot just do it theoretically, sitting in an armchair. You cannot meet a girl and marry her sitting in an armchair, to do this one has to feel something, etc. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/procrustean%20bed
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Post by MAYA-EL on Mar 9, 2022 17:38:21 GMT
Do you identify as a person?. I don't, I am not a person although I have a person but by no means am I truly that person. Robots can be given the title of person So can a monkey So a person is not limited to human beings !.. Maybe you haven't realized that yet, but what you're saying is nonsense. Do you size or measure your girlfriend in all respects, saying – oh, she matches me, then I'll be with her, or you try to spend time with her to understand what a person is she? A person as a friend cannot be measured. This is something really intimate and really human. One can understand humanity or personality by his experience. You cannot just do it theoretically, sitting in an armchair. You cannot meet a girl and marry her sitting in an armchair, to do this one has to feel something, etc. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/procrustean%20bedA few points to address here. 1 you are single and never been married yet tell me how I can and can't judge my girlfriend When I'm the one that's been married for 10yrs and have a kid to top it of So that's a textbook ironic statement on your part Secondly you missed the point I was making you took it the opposite of how I meant it which would make it ironic statement #2 I was saying that I am not defined and limited by such a governmental cold limited boundary like "person" person is a legal term that doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, only in man's game called society does person exist And it's subject to change seeing as how a robot or monkey can be a person I can't properly be defined although in a way I kinda just did.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 9, 2022 17:46:15 GMT
!.. Maybe you haven't realized that yet, but what you're saying is nonsense. Do you size or measure your girlfriend in all respects, saying – oh, she matches me, then I'll be with her, or you try to spend time with her to understand what a person is she? A person as a friend cannot be measured. This is something really intimate and really human. One can understand humanity or personality by his experience. You cannot just do it theoretically, sitting in an armchair. You cannot meet a girl and marry her sitting in an armchair, to do this one has to feel something, etc. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/procrustean%20bedA few points to address here. 1 you are single and never been married yet tell me how I can and can't judge my girlfriend When I'm the one that's been married for 10yrs and have a kid to top it of So that's a textbook ironic statement on your part Secondly you missed the point I was making you took it the opposite of how I meant it which would make it ironic statement #2 I was saying that I am not defined and limited by such a governmental cold limited boundary like "person" person is a legal term that doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, only in man's game called society does person exist And it's subject to change seeing as how a robot or monkey can be a person I can't properly be defined although in a way I kinda just did. "a person is a legal term that doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, only in man's game called society does person exist" – you're saying a complete nonsense, dude
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Post by MAYA-EL on Mar 10, 2022 4:54:45 GMT
A few points to address here. 1 you are single and never been married yet tell me how I can and can't judge my girlfriend When I'm the one that's been married for 10yrs and have a kid to top it of So that's a textbook ironic statement on your part Secondly you missed the point I was making you took it the opposite of how I meant it which would make it ironic statement #2 I was saying that I am not defined and limited by such a governmental cold limited boundary like "person" person is a legal term that doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, only in man's game called society does person exist And it's subject to change seeing as how a robot or monkey can be a person I can't properly be defined although in a way I kinda just did. "a person is a legal term that doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, only in man's game called society does person exist" – you're saying a complete nonsense, dude No you just don't like what I'm saying. You do know that a robot was given the status of person right? Person is a a legal identity now if you are a child of the system and haven't built any inner spiritual complexity and uniqueness then perhaps you are just a person .
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 10, 2022 5:38:11 GMT
"a person is a legal term that doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, only in man's game called society does person exist" – you're saying a complete nonsense, dude No you just don't like what I'm saying. You do know that a robot was given the status of person right? Person is a a legal identity now if you are a child of the system and haven't built any inner spiritual complexity and uniqueness then perhaps you are just a person . Next time ask a Noble prize committee to award you for your unique and profound ideas. I think they'll like it
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Post by Triangle on Mar 13, 2022 11:56:45 GMT
So dualism is important?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 14, 2022 4:44:10 GMT
Dualism? You mean body & soul conception? I was talking about a phenomenon of personality as humanity, and as a feature that has to be prior to the others. There's nothing more valuable in this world as real true and sincere human relationships.
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Post by Triangle on Mar 14, 2022 10:37:39 GMT
True. Maybe I am wrong, but I am talking about the dychotomy of subject and object, or thing and observer.
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Post by Triangle on Mar 14, 2022 10:38:09 GMT
Dychotomy is important?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 14, 2022 10:43:26 GMT
True. Maybe I am wrong, but I am talking about the dychotomy of subject and object, or thing and observer. I don't accept such a differentiation. Seems like it's coming from the continental way of Philosophy. I think it depends on from which angle we're viewing this problem. And in my thesis there's nothing similar about it. Maybe I'm wrong and you've found something in my position that corresponds to this, so could you explain where do you see this draw line of dychotomy, 'cause I still don't understand.
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Post by Triangle on Mar 14, 2022 13:22:58 GMT
A thing, as Hegel says, is what it results, what effectly results.
I am only taking the consequences of your statement.
Not big deal. But is a good philosophical training to know how to dialogue.
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Post by Triangle on Mar 14, 2022 13:24:11 GMT
Let's try to mantain a high sociability and a high conversation, in this world of caos.
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Post by Triangle on Mar 14, 2022 13:27:18 GMT
The intellectuals is the only elite who can think with his own ideas. Let's be humble and take the opportunity seriously. I am not saying that we aren't taking seriously anything, but only to strenght the vital character of philosophical conversations.
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