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Post by joustos on Oct 1, 2020 22:24:45 GMT
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On different days, weather and health permitting, I am going to write a tract (small treatise) about the field of study or investigation called "Logology" (= the study of Discourse or Speeches). What I call Philology used to be called, on occasions, Philology, and it was believed that the divine Hermes was the father of Philology or the first philologist (and the father of instrumental music, succeeded in music by the divine Apollo). {Notice how I have been packing information and realize that you are doing philology. This speaking/writing style of mine is not poetic and is not pleasant.} I have never taken courses in linguistics or etymology. So, I will not regurgitate things I learned formally. However, for years I have been doing etymology of words of many languages such as my native language, Anglo-Saxon (Old English), Basque, Eblaite (Canaanitic Syriac), and obscure Etruscan (which I translated -- made clear -- by doing the etymology of many of its words). What is an etymology and how is it done? This is one thing I will discuss and exemplify, so that some readers can become apprendices of the art of etymology and practise it for their native language, if so they wish.
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Post by joustos on Jun 27, 2022 16:11:34 GMT
VARRO (conclusion, for now) IV.21. TERRA 'Earth', says Helvus, is named from the fact that it Teritur 'is trodden'. (In the Book of Augurs, Terra is written as Tera.) Perhaps Terra is < Greek Terron 'Terminus/Boundary'. [Thus, Varro's etymology explaims also why earth is named 'earth' in Latin. X.96. I! 'Go thou' < Gr. Ithi 'Lat. Ite: Go ye'. ------ Gratias tibi ago, Marce --------
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Post by joustos on Jun 27, 2022 21:16:01 GMT
It is a pleasure to read this discussion about the etymology of Gr. Helios (= the sun): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios Two ancient epithets of the sun are mentioned: Hyperion (the one above), although it belongs more exclusively to the Sky (Ouranos), I say, and Phaethon (the shining one). So, the original makers of the Greek language could have used one epithet to name what they named "Helios" -- which still remains a mystery.
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Post by joustos on Jun 28, 2022 17:01:51 GMT
Helios = the sun; the sun-god. What follows is taken from the above-cited Wikipedia article: The Greek word for "sun", whose etymology we are trying to find, has variants, and unfortunately we do not know whether one of them was the original name of the star in question: Attic/Ionic H elios [that is, hard-aspirated Eta, Lambda, etc.], Aeolic/Doric Halios, Cretan Abelios, Homeric H eelios. Plato, the Athenian philosopher, dealt exclusively with "H elios" and mentions a phrase as the possible source if it: "aei eilein" (to ever turn), since the sun always turns around the earth in its course. My comment: Actually the roots of the two words are not identical, h el- and eil-, but they could be geographical variants. Anyway, the Homeric form may be closest to the sun as the ever-turner: H eelios (sun) < EILei (it turns). This is called an etymology but, in fact, Plato gave the REASON why, in Greek, the Sun was called Sun. He provided an onomastic aetiology .
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Post by joustos on Jul 3, 2022 17:21:35 GMT
RUSSIAN AND UKRAINIAN NUTS: Almond.
Russian: Migdalb Ukrainian: Mindalb Ending aside, these two words are identical and, for me, they are derived from the Greek Almond, namely -- as transliterated by the Roman letters -- AMYGDALE, which was later pronounced AMYNDALE. So, those two words involved the dropping of the initial letter/sound "A" [as it happened, too, elsewhere in Europe], but lo and behold, the Russian word preserves the G [gh] of the written Greek word, whereas the Ukrainian word records (by N) the sound of the later Greek word. So, to begin with, one cannot claim that the Ukrainian word comes from the Russian word, or that the Russian word comes from the Ukrainian word. We can only claim that the Ukrainian word comes from spoken Greek, whereas the Russian word comes from written Greek or a written Old Church Slavonic word (which existed in Russia or Ukraine or both).
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Post by joustos on Aug 28, 2022 21:56:05 GMT
What is a word called Adjective, whether it is placed before a noun, or is the predicate of a subject in a sentence, or (with or without modifications) is attached to a noun? The traditional answer is that it qualifies or modifies the noun to which it is applied. Well, if one said, "I gave her a bunch of RED ROSES", probably he intended to inform the listener that he declared his love to a lady, since "red roses" are conventionally a symbol of love (romantic affection), but this two-word term does not mean "love" and it is novet the case that the adjective "red" modifies the meaning of, the concept of, the noun "rose". At best, the adjective SPECIFIES the nature of a rose, or is the name of a quality or an aspect of a particular rose. An adjective or a predicate may be GENERIC, as in the case "A human body is a wonderful organism", and, as such, it does not name an aspect or a part of a thing; it names the generic nature of a whole thing. All the aforementioned adjectives are "objective" (i.e. of objects that are being spoken of, or of properties of objects; other adjectives placed before nouns are "subjective", as they name ways in which an object exists for or in relation to or as assessed by the speaker or some other person. E.g., "I eat only SOFT bread" "A eu-logy [GOOD speech] should be sincere", where "good" does not name a quality/characteristic of a speech, but the goodness of some man. ["This food is hot." Is heat objective or subjective or, as Plato would say, both? "This is a heavy book." ???]
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Aug 28, 2022 23:43:37 GMT
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On different days, weather and health permitting, I am going to write a tract (small treatise) about the field of study or investigation called "Logology" (= the study of Discourse or Speeches). What I call Philology used to be called, on occasions, Philology, and it was believed that the divine Hermes was the father of Philology or the first philologist (and the father of instrumental music, succeeded in music by the divine Apollo). {Notice how I have been packing information and realize that you are doing philology. This speaking/writing style of mine is not poetic and is not pleasant.} I have never taken courses in linguistics or etymology. So, I will not regurgitate things I learned formally. However, for years I have been doing etymology of words of many languages such as my native language, Anglo-Saxon (Old English), Basque, Eblaite (Canaanitic Syriac), and obscure Etruscan (which I translated -- made clear -- by doing the etymology of many of its words). What is an etymology and how is it done? This is one thing I will discuss and exemplify, so that some readers can become apprendices of the art of etymology and practise it for their native language, if so they wish.
Incorrect. Hermes Is The "Youngest", It Was Thoth And Seshat Associated With Writing, Hence "Thoth" Is The "Eldest".
In The Bible, One Of The Visitors From The Ezekiel Wheel Is A Man With An "Ink Jar", This Same Description Is In The Emerald Tablets, Which Also Mentions A Man With An Ink Jar, That Man Is THOTH.
The Bird Is The Word.
As For Logosology / Etymology, Words Are Vibration, Vibration Is Sound, Sound Is Frequency, Frequency Is Language (Think Of Bees, They Buzz With Basic Vibration Forms), Then Vibration Became More Advanced To Become The Distinguishable Sounds We Hear Today. Different Forms Of Communication Became Different Linguistic Labels.
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