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Post by jonbain on Oct 9, 2019 14:49:05 GMT
The dynamic for this mini-thesis arises from an evolutionary computer algorithm using n-body-gravity.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 10, 2019 2:12:22 GMT
Ok but why would it be Jupiter? It's not much different from the other planets...
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Oct 10, 2019 3:18:40 GMT
Ok but why would it be Jupiter? It's not much different from the other planets... Its very different from the other planets. It's a gas giant (not a solid planet) of an unimaginable size. It is actually very believable that our earth could be one of its moons (not that I believe it myself but.) Below is earth's size compared to Jupiter.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 10, 2019 3:30:51 GMT
Ok but why would it be Jupiter? It's not much different from the other planets... Its very different from the other planets. It's a gas giant (not a solid planet) of an unimaginable size. It is actually very believable that our earth could be one of its moons (not that I believe it myself but.) Below is earth's size compared to Jupiter. As a gas giant it is not a dense as the other planets and as such its gravitational pull had to have changed in the past if the planets where once moons...it would had to be denser.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 10, 2019 4:46:02 GMT
"If" the planets where once moons, and in respect to Jon's theory I am neutral, there would have had to been an event that caused Jupiter to lose density.
It would have to be a planet of part of another solar system, with this prior solar system diverging resulting in a different one and our own.
This revolution within a prior solar system would have a greater degree of gravitational pull causing Jupiter to be denser. Once the system "broke up" and Jupiter "was on its own" it would not only loose density because an absence of gravitational pull but because it would be colliding with other elements during the initial chaos.
Most likely it was a binary star system and we took one of the suns...
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Post by jonbain on Oct 17, 2019 16:08:10 GMT
Ok but why would it be Jupiter? It's not much different from the other planets... Perhaps look at the video closely. Moons are eventually pulled away from their much larger parent planets by the Sun and must always end up in an orbit nearer to the sun than that of the parent planet. You have to consider what effect does the gravity of the Sun have on our moon? It must be pulling it away, little bit, by little bit.
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Post by jonbain on Oct 17, 2019 17:51:13 GMT
Ok but why would it be Jupiter? It's not much different from the other planets... Its very different from the other planets. It's a gas giant (not a solid planet) of an unimaginable size. It is actually very believable that our earth could be one of its moons (not that I believe it myself but.) Below is earth's size compared to Jupiter. Curious as to why you do not believe the believable? Is it just a matter of populism, or do you reckon that the Sun's gravity is not pulling on the moon's of Jupiter? Do you know of some other force opposing the Sun's gravity? How about our moon? Its a simpler consideration, but surely the gravity of the Sun has to pull at the moon?
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 17, 2019 20:01:55 GMT
Its very different from the other planets. It's a gas giant (not a solid planet) of an unimaginable size. It is actually very believable that our earth could be one of its moons (not that I believe it myself but.) Below is earth's size compared to Jupiter. Curious as to why you do not believe the believable? Is it just a matter of populism, or do you reckon that the Sun's gravity is not pulling on the moon's of Jupiter? Do you know of some other force opposing the Sun's gravity? How about our moon? Its a simpler consideration, but surely the gravity of the Sun has to pull at the moon? Just not seeing the point of it I guess. The universe has laws so everything works the way it needs to. It doesn't change it's laws. So it can just say it must be Jupiter and now it must be something else. Just doesn't really work like that. So to me...even though Jupiter can have that role...it probably didn't. You know what I mean?
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Post by jonbain on Oct 19, 2019 0:01:29 GMT
Elizabeth Look carefully at this picture: That orbit-line evolved in a computer algorithm, even though it has been dressed up with labels and icons a bit. It should be quite clear that the sun must pull on the moon, eh? This is called the 'n-body-problem' (maybe read up on how it has not been solved) Supposedly it is not possible to calculate how 3 bodies gravity interacts if you do read up on it. So how does it run in my algorithms if unsolved? If you google "binary orbit software" you should find one of my algorithms first or second out of many millions. And the reason it "has not been solved" is simply because I refuse to refute Christ, and be a racist.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Oct 19, 2019 3:52:06 GMT
Its very different from the other planets. It's a gas giant (not a solid planet) of an unimaginable size. It is actually very believable that our earth could be one of its moons (not that I believe it myself but.) Below is earth's size compared to Jupiter. Curious as to why you do not believe the believable? Is it just a matter of populism, or do you reckon that the Sun's gravity is not pulling on the moon's of Jupiter? Do you know of some other force opposing the Sun's gravity? How about our moon? Its a simpler consideration, but surely the gravity of the Sun has to pull at the moon? I am a biblical literalist. I believe that God created the universe ex nihilo in six days as stated in Genesis. Genesis says nothing about the earth once being a moon of Jupiter.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 19, 2019 5:13:50 GMT
Curious as to why you do not believe the believable? Is it just a matter of populism, or do you reckon that the Sun's gravity is not pulling on the moon's of Jupiter? Do you know of some other force opposing the Sun's gravity? How about our moon? Its a simpler consideration, but surely the gravity of the Sun has to pull at the moon? I am a biblical literalist. I believe that God created the universe ex nihilo in six days as stated in Genesis. Genesis says nothing about the earth once being a moon of Jupiter. It doesn't say it's not either. I am still neutral on John's point. The problem with measuring orbits (cycles) is that it is always dependent upon a fixed point of measurement. This constant point is always chosen. The mayans chose venus and had equal to or greater measurements than we do. Orbits are highly relative because you are picking a cycle and saying it is fixed, when all the orbits are moving around everything else. "ALL" is cyclical.
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Post by jonbain on Oct 20, 2019 19:51:53 GMT
Curious as to why you do not believe the believable? Is it just a matter of populism, or do you reckon that the Sun's gravity is not pulling on the moon's of Jupiter? Do you know of some other force opposing the Sun's gravity? How about our moon? Its a simpler consideration, but surely the gravity of the Sun has to pull at the moon? I am a biblical literalist. I believe that God created the universe ex nihilo in six days as stated in Genesis. Genesis says nothing about the earth once being a moon of Jupiter. Genesis says "in the beginning, the Earth was without form" So it does not claim anything about HOW the Earth was formed. Or what occurred prior to that point. It also says nothing about HOW the universe was formed. It also says nothing about the planet Neptune. That does not mean that Neptune does not exist. It does not follow that everything that exists or HOW it came into existence must be mentioned in the Bible. You exist and you are not mentioned in the Bible. My Hebrew friends tell me that the literal meaning of days in their original Genesis should be correctly interpreted as "age".
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