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Post by ΞΞΉΞ±ΞΌΞΏΞ½Ξ΄ on Oct 5, 2019 15:30:45 GMT
Many forums discuss about she . I didn't want to create the thread about her here (Iβam sorry plz ) but just wondering if everyone supports her here?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 21, 2019 22:44:48 GMT
I understand the anger or rather discomfort she causes, and she may or may not be a fraud (like I said only her and God knows her real intentions), but calling her a fraud only is observing a symptom. It is like saying "I have a headache".... okay, how is it fixed? What is the cause or rather point in reality where things did not line up thus causing "pain"? The adults are in charge, exploiting her intentions (good or bad), and I believe that subconsciously she is aware at some level of this exploitation, but due to her age and lack of experience does not know what is going on and Is Wrapping It Up, The Existential Crisis, Under The Concept Of "Climate Change". Yeah the industrialization our parents pushed on us like a religion resulted in a physical shit hole for one half the world and a spiritual wasteland in another, but the problem runs deeper than climate itself. The sky is indeed falling, but that sky is really no different than the human mind. Our basic ability to assume and project information differs little from space. The emptiness of the mind is the sky that our thoughts hang in like stars and galaxies. As the stars and planets orbit around in a spiral, so do the basic axiom we justified our identities on rotate through a continual repitition. Don't find it a mistake the seperation of the stars, due to the expansion of space, correlates with a time where thoughts are divided and everyone feels more and more distant to eachother. As above, so below, as below, so above. Ok, fine. I just tried to make answer shorter. Making her an icon for kidz, as you said, is just another historical step for commercials&selling. On the one hand, I'd like to say that instead of solving anything really important things like - taking control over from the ones who usurped control over us and so on, but on the other one, I really doubt about it 'cause an effect on societies when the processes of rearranging it is in progress. "As the stars and planets orbit around in a spiral, so do the basic axiom we justified our identities on rotate through a continual repitition... Don't find it a mistake the seperation of the stars, due to the expansion of space, correlates with a time where thoughts are divided and everyone feels more and more distant to eachother" - - Yeah, circular identification it's in Copernicus and all of an astronomical influence on us during the history potential. Indeed, such a function works properly. However, despite of whether that Greta is good or bad, it would be success if she wouldn't be even born. As for me there's no difference between Greta and Hitler. You need to look on Greta's eyes to understand what's going on. A crystal monster. You said that our identity based on a planet motion (I know it's not interpreted perfectly, but...), so why had we been doing this all of the time? Didn't we want to be such a perfect deities like they? I'd say that there's no place for Greta not in my heart, not in my ontology; I want my ontology (where I should be placed too) to be such a wonderful as a clean skies, and green lands, and fresh air, and... oh, no... oh my God... I think I've just crushed in Greta... Our identity mirrors planetary motions and vice versa. It is patterns, or forms, which are constant with these forms existing empirically but not limited to it. As to Greta, she is in my opinion, a projection of the times. Hitler was a projection of the people's darkside, and this dark side is what guided the people. If it wasn't Hitler, it would be someone else. Again to tie in the first paragraph to the second, it is replicating forms we are observing.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 22, 2019 19:53:58 GMT
Ok, fine. I just tried to make answer shorter. Making her an icon for kidz, as you said, is just another historical step for commercials&selling. On the one hand, I'd like to say that instead of solving anything really important things like - taking control over from the ones who usurped control over us and so on, but on the other one, I really doubt about it 'cause an effect on societies when the processes of rearranging it is in progress. "As the stars and planets orbit around in a spiral, so do the basic axiom we justified our identities on rotate through a continual repitition... Don't find it a mistake the seperation of the stars, due to the expansion of space, correlates with a time where thoughts are divided and everyone feels more and more distant to eachother" - - Yeah, circular identification it's in Copernicus and all of an astronomical influence on us during the history potential. Indeed, such a function works properly. However, despite of whether that Greta is good or bad, it would be success if she wouldn't be even born. As for me there's no difference between Greta and Hitler. You need to look on Greta's eyes to understand what's going on. A crystal monster. You said that our identity based on a planet motion (I know it's not interpreted perfectly, but...), so why had we been doing this all of the time? Didn't we want to be such a perfect deities like they? I'd say that there's no place for Greta not in my heart, not in my ontology; I want my ontology (where I should be placed too) to be such a wonderful as a clean skies, and green lands, and fresh air, and... oh, no... oh my God... I think I've just crushed in Greta... Our identity mirrors planetary motions and vice versa. It is patterns, or forms, which are constant with these forms existing empirically but not limited to it. As to Greta, she is in my opinion, a projection of the times. Hitler was a projection of the people's darkside, and this dark side is what guided the people. If it wasn't Hitler, it would be someone else. Again to tie in the first paragraph to the second, it is replicating forms we are observing. I like your "rotating cosmological" argument, and I share this view too, 'cause it corresponds to my intuitions; also, I can't get rid of the thought that this states of affairs is just an imagination. Why should I put "rotating cosmic objects" as a reason for circulating my thought/influence on my indentity, whatever? As the matter of fact, we don't know what causing what, 'cause there are more than one variable in the equation: "who are we?", and "what exactly are we observing right now?". At least, even having some answers on the questions which are given just partially won't help us to solve this. Yeah, as I said previously, I'd like an idea, but however, the situation could have the reverse meaning that safety laid on our points of view: we had been stuck, our identities were frozen as hell.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 22, 2019 21:12:11 GMT
Our identity mirrors planetary motions and vice versa. It is patterns, or forms, which are constant with these forms existing empirically but not limited to it. As to Greta, she is in my opinion, a projection of the times. Hitler was a projection of the people's darkside, and this dark side is what guided the people. If it wasn't Hitler, it would be someone else. Again to tie in the first paragraph to the second, it is replicating forms we are observing. 1) I like your "rotating cosmological" argument, and I share this view too, 'cause it corresponds to my intuitions; also, I can't get rid of the thought that this states of affairs is just an imagination. Why should I put "rotating cosmic objects" as a reason for circulating my thought/influence on my indentity, whatever? 2) As the matter of fact, we don't know what causing what, 'cause there are more than one variable in the equation: "who are we?", and "what exactly are we observing right now?". At least, even having some answers on the questions which are given just partially won't help us to solve this. 3) Yeah, as I said previously, I'd like an idea, but however, the situation could have the reverse meaning that safety laid on our points of view: we had been stuck, our identities were frozen as hell. 1) I am not sure it can any other way. I mean look at it this way, when we study something we are looking for or learning patterns. It applies to logic/math, science, religion, a practical trade, relationships and even ourselves. We are looking for some form to repeat itself. We see reality through patterns that repeat. This repitition is circular, you end where you begin. Thus it only makes sense, considering this circular nature of how we understand reality that the small and the large, particular and general, and microcosm and macrocosm not only repeat but repeat through eachother. One forms the other and it is a cycle. It is like in trying to understand where you come from you look at the people you come from, where you where born, and the culture and times you live in. Dually the group is a replication of yourself as the group exists through its individuals. It really is just meditating on and applying circles...it is that horribly simple. Look for cycles of you want to understand something. Thus when I see Greta, I see her as a reflection of the people and the times. 2. Yeah, I had that problem years ago when trying to figure things out. Trying to find the cause of one problem leads to a chain of other causes for those causes, as well as whether the problem is even a problem at all and the internal cause for me viewing it that way. After a while you begin to just know everything is interwoven, that the best you can do is look at one cause and see it as a loop composed of other loops. You really can't blame anyone, neither can you not blame anyone. This expansion and contraction of "consciousness" (which can be rooted in conscience as defined as loyality, trust, love, etc.) is subject to swing rhythm and is object by nature. The truth of it is we are just actors playing a role and the only thing we are judged by is the quality we "sow" into our part for we will "reap" it. We reap what we sow, and yet we are actors of play we have no clue what it is about. Quality is what we sow and reap as that is the only thing we can control.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 29, 2019 22:09:02 GMT
1) I like your "rotating cosmological" argument, and I share this view too, 'cause it corresponds to my intuitions; also, I can't get rid of the thought that this states of affairs is just an imagination. Why should I put "rotating cosmic objects" as a reason for circulating my thought/influence on my indentity, whatever? 2) As the matter of fact, we don't know what causing what, 'cause there are more than one variable in the equation: "who are we?", and "what exactly are we observing right now?". At least, even having some answers on the questions which are given just partially won't help us to solve this. 3) Yeah, as I said previously, I'd like an idea, but however, the situation could have the reverse meaning that safety laid on our points of view: we had been stuck, our identities were frozen as hell. 1) I am not sure it can any other way. I mean look at it this way, when we study something we are looking for or learning patterns. It applies to logic/math, science, religion, a practical trade, relationships and even ourselves. We are looking for some form to repeat itself. We see reality through patterns that repeat. This repitition is circular, you end where you begin. Thus it only makes sense, considering this circular nature of how we understand reality that the small and the large, particular and general, and microcosm and macrocosm not only repeat but repeat through eachother. One forms the other and it is a cycle. It is like in trying to understand where you come from you look at the people you come from, where you where born, and the culture and times you live in. Dually the group is a replication of yourself as the group exists through its individuals. It really is just meditating on and applying circles...it is that horribly simple. Look for cycles of you want to understand something. Thus when I see Greta, I see her as a reflection of the people and the times. 2. Yeah, I had that problem years ago when trying to figure things out. Trying to find the cause of one problem leads to a chain of other causes for those causes, as well as whether the problem is even a problem at all and the internal cause for me viewing it that way. After a while you begin to just know everything is interwoven, that the best you can do is look at one cause and see it as a loop composed of other loops. You really can't blame anyone, neither can you not blame anyone. This expansion and contraction of "consciousness" (which can be rooted in conscience as defined as loyality, trust, love, etc.) is subject to swing rhythm and is object by nature. The truth of it is we are just actors playing a role and the only thing we are judged by is the quality we "sow" into our part for we will "reap" it. We reap what we sow, and yet we are actors of play we have no clue what it is about. Quality is what we sow and reap as that is the only thing we can control. Okay. Your thoughts are as always as full of brightness. Let me ask you some other questions instead. (Close to this theme, I hope.) a. What do you think of modern metaphysics, generally? Is it completely exhausted? b. What do you think about modern actor talents? Are there any left? Is there still a chance for us to see some movie stars again?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 30, 2019 2:17:22 GMT
1) I am not sure it can any other way. I mean look at it this way, when we study something we are looking for or learning patterns. It applies to logic/math, science, religion, a practical trade, relationships and even ourselves. We are looking for some form to repeat itself. We see reality through patterns that repeat. This repitition is circular, you end where you begin. Thus it only makes sense, considering this circular nature of how we understand reality that the small and the large, particular and general, and microcosm and macrocosm not only repeat but repeat through eachother. One forms the other and it is a cycle. It is like in trying to understand where you come from you look at the people you come from, where you where born, and the culture and times you live in. Dually the group is a replication of yourself as the group exists through its individuals. It really is just meditating on and applying circles...it is that horribly simple. Look for cycles of you want to understand something. Thus when I see Greta, I see her as a reflection of the people and the times. 2. Yeah, I had that problem years ago when trying to figure things out. Trying to find the cause of one problem leads to a chain of other causes for those causes, as well as whether the problem is even a problem at all and the internal cause for me viewing it that way. After a while you begin to just know everything is interwoven, that the best you can do is look at one cause and see it as a loop composed of other loops. You really can't blame anyone, neither can you not blame anyone. This expansion and contraction of "consciousness" (which can be rooted in conscience as defined as loyality, trust, love, etc.) is subject to swing rhythm and is object by nature. The truth of it is we are just actors playing a role and the only thing we are judged by is the quality we "sow" into our part for we will "reap" it. We reap what we sow, and yet we are actors of play we have no clue what it is about. Quality is what we sow and reap as that is the only thing we can control. Okay. Your thoughts are as always as full of brightness. Let me ask you some other questions instead. (Close to this theme, I hope.) a. What do you think of modern metaphysics, generally? It needs restarted, we need to go back to the presocratics but modernize it (ie synthesize it with what we know). Is it completely exhausted? Its fractured to a point of no return, but science may be headed that way as well...AI will be required to deal with the diversity and this causes a problem for the human condition.b. What do you think about modern actor talents? Are there any left? Is there still a chance for us to see some movie stars again? We admire people who put on masks for a living because it reminds us it is okay to put on a mask for a living. Noone is real anymore, even the "search for self" has become an industry.
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